Titan Labs

Code:
https://www.ehs.umass.edu/biological-safety-cabinets-vs-laminar-flow-hoods

Here is a pretty good explanation and air flow schematic.
 
I believe it is legit also. Biologic Safety Cabinets(BSC) are actually better than Laminar Flow Hoods (LFH). It protects both the ambient air and the air within. I like where your head is at but this seems to be what we are looking for. This is just my opinion also so we could all end up with infections ;)
Yea actually bsc hoods are the best hood for this kind of work. I also see it has supplied gas which is nice because it means the cooking is done under there. Not that it matters as the .2 filter dose the majority of the work.

As far as it being a college lab, not many college chem classes are running hoods like that. Maybe one on campus of some of the larger research schools but not the everyday class.

Titan I am glad to see you are following the coc.

About testing, how about offering 200-250 in free gear to the first ten people who anonymously send samples to myth or angus to be mass specd? Just an idea
 
I believe it is legit also. Biologic Safety Cabinets(BSC) are actually better than Laminar Flow Hoods (LFH). It protects both the ambient air and the air within. I like where your head is at but this seems to be what we are looking for. This is just my opinion also so we could all end up with infections ;)

Colt
If you take a look at the website I linked above you'll find a brief description of how this product works.
It seems to me to be the oposite of what we'd want
Its the same brand as Titan's although his appears to be an older model. (nothing wrong with that)
Again I know nothing about brewing gear but the description says it keeps particles in, which seems bad to me.
 
Code:
https://www.ehs.umass.edu/biological-safety-cabinets-vs-laminar-flow-hoods

Here is a pretty good explanation and air flow schematic.
Yea actually bsc hoods are the best hood for this kind of work. I also see it has supplied gas which is nice because it means the cooking is done under there. Not that it matters as the .2 filter dose the majority of the work.

As far as it being a college lab, not many college chem classes are running hoods like that. Maybe one on campus of some of the larger research schools but not the everyday class.

Titan I am glad to see you are following the coc.

About testing, how about offering 200-250 in free gear to the first ten people who anonymously send samples to myth or angus to be mass specd? Just an idea
Colt
If you take a look at the website I linked above you'll find a brief description of how this product works.
It seems to me to be the oposite of what we'd want
Its the same brand as Titan's although his appears to be an older model. (nothing wrong with that)
Again I know nothing about brewing gear but the description says it keeps particles in, which seems bad to me.

Regardless of who's right or wrong this is great conversation so thanks to all involved..
 
Truthfully like myth kind of hinted towards, all that really matters in the end is the vials are clean and the oil is run through a .2 filter.

But im 99% sure colt is right.

Btw when I ordered I had no idea he had all this, I just assumed it was syringe filtered
 
Colt
If you take a look at the website I linked above you'll find a brief description of how this product works.
It seems to me to be the oposite of what we'd want
Its the same brand as Titan's although his appears to be an older model. (nothing wrong with that)
Again I know nothing about brewing gear but the description says it keeps particles in, which seems bad to me.

Now scroll down on that same page you are referring to and look at what all of those products have in common. What does the protection type say?
 
The hood is legit. But, as I stated above, every mol bio lab on the planet has both hood and autoclave. That being said, showstoppa's experience added to pics weighs in favor of cautious acceptance. Pending samples and testing (Labmax/ms/blood). I'll be watching hopefully. Shit could blow up well before then; it often does.

Please shock us Zeus and have your shit together.
 
I make homebrew in my house with zero pip, zero floaters, zero infections, straight FIRE and you're going to pick apart his flow hood...!!!!!

Damn this fucking captcha thing slowing me down

Hey no no!
None of that was my intention
I'm pretty new to this whole thing and as I said above I know nothing about brewing gear

I was just trying to contribute my experience and something I know about to the board

If the vets here are cool with this I say we move forward, I just wanted to bring that to everyones attention.

Just a FYI though I was at a community college a few years back and they had two of something similar (not the same brand but close) in each chem lab.
 
Just a FYI though I was at a community college a few years back had two of something similar (not the same brand but close) in each chem lab.

Fair enough. I did my grad work for five years in a fume hood, with mol bio collaborators feeding the compounds I made to their bugs in BSC hoods. Not whipping my dick out here, but I know hoods. This one is what Zeus says it is. Whether it is his, or he is an enterprising grad student getting ready to try and fleece a bunch of us, is a different issue.
 
Fair enough. I did my grad work for five years in a fume hood, with mol bio collaborators feeding the compounds I made to their bugs in BSC hoods. Not whipping my dick out here, but I know hoods. This one is what Zeus says it is. Whether it is his, or he is an enterprising grad student getting ready to try and fleece a bunch of us, is a different issue.

I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night so I am pretty much qualified for any line of work. ;)
 
Also, seriously impressed with the group in this thread right now. Lots of calm reasoning and helpful comments. No pissing matches, angst-ridden tren-fuelled paranoia or anything for at least two pages. Hallefuckinglujah.
 
Also, seriously impressed with the group in this thread right now. Lots of calm reasoning and helpful comments. No pissing matches, angst-ridden tren-fuelled paranoia or anything for at least two pages. Hallefuckinglujah.

Well put

I want this guy to work out as much as the rest of us

Can we see vials of finished product? I don't think the CoC calls for that specifically but it would give me a warm fuzzy.
 
Colt
If you take a look at the website I linked above you'll find a brief description of how this product works.
It seems to me to be the oposite of what we'd want
Its the same brand as Titan's although his appears to be an older model. (nothing wrong with that)
Again I know nothing about brewing gear but the description says it keeps particles in, which seems bad to me.

It's fine, trust me on this one. If I was going to worry about contamination and bacteria, the semantics of how and where the air goes would be the least of my worries. You could be brewing in a fucking pharmaceutical clean room and all bets go out the door if you're using dirty glassware, lab tools, viles, or even if you are not wearing gloves. No way to inforce any of that. I give them some credit for the pictures. They might not even use the fucking autoclave, but at least i know they have access to it, along with a lab. Ragnar, i like your enthusiasm, we all want good product, but there comes a point when the phrase "Arguing for the sake of argument' comes to mind.
atodd
 
Alright guys. Glad to come back and see solid discussion.

Ill be honest and say part of the reason I didnt want to post is because, as is obvious from a few posts, most guys dont even know what the biological cabinet is.

A laminar flow hood just directs air out from under the hood, this is much better. A class I does not have sterile air flow. However, a class II does have sterile air flow as the outside air is filtered before being passed over the contents under the hood. They run about 2k and are a good investment although running the oil through filters into clean vials is really all the matters for the most part.

Either way, Im glad we could satisfy you guys and comply with the CoC.

So, I want you guys to come up with the vet you want us to send samples to for testing and let me know.

I will post our contact email tomorrow-as well as ordering instructions just in case. I dont want any idiots emailing me with I WANT TREN in the title. We will have product codes and anyone not using them will not be responded to.

I will be a bit busy tomorrow so my posts may not be until tomorrow evening. I hope everyone plays nice until then :)

Looking forward to making Meso our home board and we want to say thank you guys for giving us a shot!

Samples will be shipped out this weekend as well as any orders for those that decide to give us a shot.

TL/Zeus
 
Titan please correct me if I'm wrong but the hood you posted appears to be a fume hood of sorts.

I was of the impression that a lamniar flow hood directed filtered air across the work space to prevent outside contamination from airborne particles by keeping them out

Your hood appears to draw air into it to prevent fumes and the like from escaping into a lab which seems to me to be the opposite of what we'd want

I did a quick google search for your hood and came up with this

http://www.labconco.com/product/purifier-logic-class-ii-type-a2-biosafety-cabinets-2/4261

this is different but appears very similar to your hood

This whole thing looks similar to something I had back in college chem lab
yeah I've installed these in high school science labs, pretty generic really.
 
Also, seriously impressed with the group in this thread right now. Lots of calm reasoning and helpful comments. No pissing matches, angst-ridden tren-fuelled paranoia or anything for at least two pages. Hallefuckinglujah.

Thought I would get in on this thread whilst all the calm, smart, composed and adult like people are about. Just in case in turns to shit and you all need to do the old Jekyll and Hyde. Now that I've effectively lowered your collective IQ I will leave ;)
 
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