Titan Labs

[av ultra]

yea I was actually just told about that post on evolutionary this morning. Not sure if there is any way I can prove it but thats not us. Different lab, same name

TL

Why would somebody use the name of a lab that's on the ropes here to try to scam on another forum? Doesn't make any business sense.

 

[Colt44]

The writing style,paragraph structure as well as the verbage used are just about identical. I would agree that they are indeed the same person.

^^This. That is the exact same style.

Seems evo isn't too fond of us mesoans. Thread started just today about how we protect "our" sources and don't let new ones in.... As they let Titan open up shop. Good luck with that.

 

[rambosmurf]

can someone tell me how to pm i am retarded

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

^^This. That is the exact same style.

Seems evo isn't too fond of us mesoans. Thread started just today about how we protect "our" sources and don't let new ones in.... As they let Titan open up shop. Good luck with that.

What's "our sources" ?? Astro?! I think it's well documented that he is still given shit on the daily here almost..

Funny, I thought we had somewhat of a good relationship with a few of those guys at EVO like fizz and ceo..

 

[insertnamehere]

Colt,

As I'm sure you know, not all Evo members feel that way. I personally am very fond of Meso

 

[Colt44]

What's "our sources" ?? Astro?! I think it's well documented that he is still given shit on the daily almost..

Funny, I thought we had somewhat of a good relationship with a few of those guys..

http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7277

Here's the ones that do @intesrtnamehere

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7277

Here's the ones that do @intesrtnamehere

That's disappointing.. Didn't know Arabian very well but wasn't expecting that..

Sounds like "Robo" is g2g though!!

HAHAHAHA!!

 

[Colt44]

Yeah we just missed out on the deal of a century.

 

[insertnamehere]

http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7277

Here's the ones that do @intesrtnamehere

I read that thread earlier when researching Titan. I was a little surprised at the comments from some, but yet there are others that I'm not so surprised.

 

[Colt44]

Yeah the guy with the robolics commercial. Sure you're not affiliated...

 

[vivame]

Anybody have connections at evo? need to check the titan over there email addy out, this shit is fishy as fuck!

Need to compare IP addresses if a moderator can here and a mod from evo too.

 

[4leafclover]

Not bro science at all:

Pharmacokinetics and Pharmacodynamics of Nandrolone Esters in Oil Vehicle: Effects of Ester, Injection Site and Injection Volume1

Authors

Charles F. Minto1Christopher Howe2Susan Wishart2Ann J. Conway2 andDavid J. Handelsman21Department of Anaesthesia and Pain Management, Royal North Shore Hospital (C.F.M.), and 2Andrology Unit, Royal Prince Alfred Hospital, Department of Medicine (C.H., S.W., A.J.C., D.J.H.), University of Sydney, Sydney, Australia

Abstract

We studied healthy men who underwent blood sampling for plasma nandrolone, testosterone and inhibin measurements before and for 32 days after a single i.m. injection of 100 mg of nandrolone ester in arachis oil. Twenty-three men were randomized into groups receiving nandrolone phenylpropionate (group 1, n = 7) or nandrolone decanoate (group 2, n = 6) injected into the gluteal muscle in 4 ml of arachis oil vehicle or nandrolone decanoate in 1 ml of arachis oil vehicle injected into either the gluteal (group 3, n = 5) or deltoid (group 4,n = 5) muscles. Plasma nandrolone, testosterone and inhibin concentrations were analyzed by a mixed-effects indirect response model. Plasma nandrolone concentrations were influenced (P < .001) by different esters and injection sites, with higher and earlier peaks with the phenylpropionate ester, compared with the decanoate ester. After nandrolone decanoate injection, the highest bioavailability and peak nandrolone levels were observed with the 1-ml gluteal injection. Plasma testosterone concentrations were also influenced (P < .001) by the ester and injection site, with the most rapid, but briefest, suppression being due to the phenylpropionate ester, whereas the most sustained suppression was achieved with the 1-ml gluteal injection. Plasma inhibin concentrations were also significantly influenced by injection volume and site, with the lowest nadir occurring after the nandrolone decanoate 1-ml gluteal injection. Thus, the bioavailability and physiological effects of a nandrolone ester in an oil vehicle are greatest when the ester is injected in a small (1 ml vs. 4 ml) volume and into the glutealvs. deltoid muscle. We conclude that the side-chain ester and the injection site and volume influence the pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of nandrolone esters in an oil vehicle in men.

I hate to say this, but I highly doubt you understood that study, as this study isn't even about testosterone enanathate, propiante, or cypionate. This study is about the effects of nandrolone (read deca, two different esters, prop and decanoate) for plasma nandrolone (read blood seperation test for nandrolone), testosterone (read natural testosterone suppression) and inihibin measurements when nandrolone was in arachis oil. The rest of the study isn't available, so I can't even see what the difference was in the injection sites. The largest conclusion I could draw from this (the abstract alone) is that phenylpropinate nandrolone is absorbed faster than nandrolone decanoate, which most people already know...

This study is also very small consisting of 13 people, for only 32 days after one injection, it draws pretty broad conclusions for such vastly different esters that it's testing.

 

[insertnamehere]

What's "our sources" ?? Astro?! I think it's well documented that he is still given shit on the daily here almost..

Funny, I thought we had somewhat of a good relationship with a few of those guys at EVO like fizz and ceo..

You still do.

 

[4leafclover]

Here is the difference, you can see the greatest impact was in the ester, the difference in glut vs deltiod was not that significant, IMO to not see higher results from lightspans blood work, even if this was the same compound he was on as was conducted in this study. You can see the largest difference in nandrolone in the system via propionate vs decanoate. You can also see that delt's as more time went on, that it preformed higher than the gluteal injection (12 days from first injection).

 

[vivame]

[..]The rest of the study isn't available, so I can't even see what the difference was in the injection sites.[...]

I believe this is the full study:

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/281/1/93.full

And I agree that he didn't understand it, I posted something to that effect a few pages back with an image of a graph from the study.

**EDIT**
You beat me to it, looks like you found the full study. I think that is the same image I posted, it doesn't seem to support his point much at all.

 

[4leafclover]

lol should of read more, just saw some reference to page 70, and didn't read 71-73. Just got upset at all this posting of blood work dispute, and I respect lightspan. I read his abstract and thought this person has no idea what he's talking about.

 

[4leafclover]

One more thing, most of the bloods posted in the low levels for watson 200mg per week are 7 days from last injection. So they don't spook the doctor.

 

[vivame]

If you compare Titanlabs's activity on Meso and Titan's activity on Evo, most posts are within ~20 mins of each other and have the same multi-hour gap in between. Here is a screenshot (EVO on the left, MESO on the right.)

Not that this is anything conclusive, or even if it is TL I suppose there isn't anything wrong with doing it, but saying that you QC every batch, and nothing is ever underdosed is a bit iffy to say the least.

Then when you go on to say, "'[...] Again I want to just say this is by far the best forum I have been on. [...]," it may rub some people the wrong way especially if those people have potentially been wronged by you but still have treated you with respect (LightSpan.)

Personally I think Light put a lot of effort into vetting you and letting the rest of us know, and he's probably responsible for more than a few of your sales. Perhaps nothing was/is wrong with your gear, nevertheless, you should still kiss his ass if not suck his dick to make him happy!

 

[4leafclover]

Finally comments before I go to bed. I quote William Llewellyn Anabolics (2010) A dose of 200 mg/week should produce blood levels of around 2000-2400 ng/dL after several weeks of use.

Let's stop with all the bro science please, I'm beginning to smell funny fish when I see comments otherwise.

We also have our very own Dr. Scally here who has posted extensive literature and clinical experience with regards to bloods and what the correct ng/dL is during certain doses.

Also, TL stuff passed labmax, and labmax claimed that blue = high potency, we know that high potency = 200 mg worth of dose, from 600 mg taken a week... Good stuff...

Bit of advice, don't dispute blood work levels, do shit to fix your stuff. Cuss out your supplier "if/when" you test your raws, maybe a baby drooled in your machine while brewing, then fix that. After you fix whatever it is, and you want to stay around here, then make it right by those wronged.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

If you compare Titanlabs's activity on Meso and Titan's activity on Evo, most posts are within ~20 mins of each other and have the same multi-hour gap in between. Here is a screenshot (EVO on the left, MESO on the right.)

Not that this is anything conclusive, or even if it is TL I suppose there isn't anything wrong with doing it, but saying that you QC every batch, and nothing is ever underdosed is a bit iffy to say the least.

Then when you go on to say, "'[...] Again I want to just say this is by far the best forum I have been on. [...]," it may rub some people the wrong way especially if those people have potentially been wronged by you but still have treated you with respect (LightSpan.)

Personally I think Light put a lot of effort into vetting you and letting the rest of us know, and he's probably responsible for more than a few of your sales. Perhaps nothing was/is wrong with your gear, nevertheless, you should still kiss his ass if not suck his dick to make him happy!

Finally comments before I go to bed. I quote William Llewellyn Anabolics (2010) A dose of 200 mg/week should produce blood levels of around 2000-2400 ng/dL after several weeks of use.

Let's stop with all the bro science please, I'm beginning to smell funny fish when I see comments otherwise.

We also have our very own Dr. Scally here who has posted extensive literature and clinical experience with regards to bloods and what the correct ng/dL is during certain doses.

Also, TL stuff passed labmax, and labmax claimed that blue = high potency, we know that high potency = 200 mg worth of dose, from 600 mg taken a week... Good stuff...

Bit of advice, don't dispute blood work levels, do shit to fix your stuff. Cuss out your supplier "if/when" you test your raws, maybe a baby drooled in your machine while brewing, then fix that. After you fix whatever it is, and you want to stay around here, then make it right by those wronged.

Where have you guys been all my life?