Titan Labs

[Titanlabs]

That may sound all nice and shit and you may love what you do.. but you sure as fuck would not do this for free or break-even. Why would you?

You are correct, I wouldnt. I guess its more the extent of the money. I know labs moving a million+ per year but I wouldnt want that kind of work load.

People have by far more intelligence here then you are apparently giving them credit for. You can spin your bullshit all you want. It's pretty obvious that you and the titan from evo are one in the same. The fact that you continue to deny it shows how little respect you have for anyone. You smelled bad to me from the start. Please insult peoples intelligence more by claiming it's not you on evo. Also enough with the tests done by you/your friend. It means nothing.

Maybe mods on this forum or evo can verify but, again, that is not our account. I would never start up on another forum, given the situation here, under the same name and then deny it. I would either open under a different name or just say it was me if it was.

Take it for what you will.

I know tests from us are not going to be taken at face value but if you guys want mass specs outside of us doing them then some members need to step up. Lightspan has and I appreciate it. Hopefully he will still be able to get his test results as I think I read he said they will be coming through.

Also, devildog, those bloods werent from our gear.

One more point, I really dont believe any ugl makes separate "good" and "bad" batches. The time and effort for minimal extra profit is not in the least bit worth it. Just my opinion...if anything, people get screwed by raw sources. If anyone knows the time it takes to run a lab, that claim just wouldn't make sense.

TL

 

[GigaloRob]

Coincidence that a lab pops up with your exact name...slightly possible considering the timing it's unlikely but possible. Your writing styles and paragraph structure are the exact same. Perhaps that's just a random coincidence also? Like i said you can continue to play your song and dance routine but your time here is over.

 

[devildog93]

Well the term selective scammer wouldn't be around if there wasn't a reason. I'm not saying you are one, but we know they exist right? In fact, i know a guy at a local gym who practices this exact thing. He has his stash of actual pharm grade shit, and the usual ugl crap he passes around to give him spending money. He does not actually use what he peddles, at all.

 

[Titanlabs]

Coincidence that a lab pops up with your exact name...slightly possible considering the timing it's unlikely but possible. Your writing styles and paragraph structure are the exact same. Perhaps that's just a random coincidence also? Like i said you can continue to play your song and dance routine but your time here is over.

Timing? They pop up 2 months after us. Like I said, maybe the mods can verify but its not us.

Also I realized I never posted a link on my post about hormone metabolism so here it is.

http://anabolicsteroidforums.com/showthread.php/3911-Is-your-Growth-Hormone-real-A-guide-to-find-out-%28updated%29

Point being, this is growth but people have testing ranges that vary up to 200% on pharmaceutical grade product.

 

[vivame]

Yea, sorry pal but i think any testing done by the source is going to have zero weight. [...]

I agree that his results will have little weight, but need to be done none the less. In addition to TL having his own tests done, perhaps he would be willing to pay for LS to send in some of his Test E to a lab for mass spec. This would be most helpful and would go a long way towards showing that TL wants to get to the bottom of this and provide the best service for his customers. @Titanlabs this would be a good use of your money. Dollar for dollar, results from a sample sent in from Light to a lab we trust, would be worth a great deal more than one sent in from you.

And I understand that LS already sent a sample to another member for MS, but lets assume that we won't be getting those results (since it is taking forever,) and do another test.

As far as evo goes, its not us...like I said, not really sure there is any way to prove it. That said, lets use logic here. If we were having issues on forum then why the fuck would we open up on another forum under the same name? If we did open up on another forum it would not be the same name. Thats just common sense.

I agree it isn't the most logical thing to do, but some people aren't very logical anyway. I would think you would have changed your name too, but earlier in this thread someone asked you why you went with the name Titan since there was already a Titan and you stated that you had already got labels made...

Personally, when I first saw the other thread, I thought it wasn't you. Unfortunately when I looked into it more, expecting to find evidence supporting that it isn't you, I didn't. I'm still on the fence as to whether it is you or someone trying to fuck you. If not you, I doubt it is a real lab since they didn't protest the accusations members of EVO made about TL's gear.

 

[vivame]

So what do people think the estimated potency of the Test E is? If we use the x10 rule of thumb, LS's labs would have him using around 200mg/week. Since he is taking 250mg e3d (625mg/week) one would think the Test E must be about 1/3 of its advertised strength, correct? Therefore ~83mg/mL, but with the 0 experiance I have on this matter, it seems like at this level it wouldn't have been blue on the labmax test. I looked at the pics LS posted of his labmax but you can't really make out the colors under UV.

So I'm interested to know what people who are more knowledgeable on the subject think the strength may be.

 

[shamrockbear1]

Most of the mass spect calculate ugls to be 53-85 percent purity so I think its a crap shoot I would say 75% would be acceptable guess on all ugl products you use.

 

[rambosmurf]

Most of the mass spect calculate ugls to be 53-85 percent purity so I think its a crap shoot I would say 75% would be acceptable guess on all ugl products you use.

whats that, 75% of the 250 per ml asvertised? for example makeing strength 187 per ml??

 

[shamrockbear1]

That's what I would use personally I was running a lab and had to double it just to get results

 

[vivame]

Back on the muscle site location vs half life debate, here's what Dr. Michael Scally had to say:

AAS Half-Life

The half-life of a drug is dependent on the Volume and Muscle. In a prior post, I describe and reference the findings as related to nandrolone esters. I am sure the same can be said for testosterone esters.

See: https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134282763

 

[vivame]

Most of the mass spect calculate ugls to be 53-85 percent purity so I think its a crap shoot I would say 75% would be acceptable guess on all ugl products you use.

This would seem more in-line with what people using TL's Test E seem to 'feel,' even though it doesn't comply with the x10 rule for LS's results. If it was actually only ~30% I don't think people would 'feel' it. Although I'm sure the placebo effect could have a lot to do with this.

 

[shamrockbear1]

Very few people run one compound at a time so I think there is a lot of bro science around this cause can't tell what's actually working and most oils don't kick in till a few weeks to see good results... IMO I think that when people are running 1000mg there actually 750mg or less so people can't really "feel" that much difference because even 750 is a good amount. Especially when your running orals and different oils say the deca your running is stronger then the test e you will never know... My labs max out at 1500 for test level so I really can't tell how high of dose I'm running... Like I said unless you have verified pharma gear its all a guessing game ....

Even titan labs is just another underdosed ugl because of all the raws coming from China are underdosed to make more money.

 

[rambosmurf]

Very few people run one compound at a time so I think there is a lot of bro science around this cause can't tell what's actually working and most oils don't kick in till a few weeks to see good results... IMO I think that when people are running 1000mg there actually 750mg or less so people can't really "feel" that much difference because even 750 is a good amount. Especially when your running orals and different oils say the deca your running is stronger then the test e you will never know... My labs max out at 1500 for test level so I really can't tell how high of dose I'm running... Like I said unless you have verified pharma gear its all a guessing game ....

Even titan labs is just another underdosed ugl because of all the raws coming from China are underdosed to make more money.

so knowing that, i guess if u get underdosed gear...just up your dose...am i right?

 

[Titanlabs]

so knowing that, i guess if u get underdosed gear...just up your dose...am i right?

Yes, to an extent. Here is my problem...lots of people have emailed, PMed, a few have posted saying "the tren is amazing" or "the anavar is great" or "the test prop is really working well" etc. I have a hard time believing a supplier that has other good products (from the reviews thus far) would send out shitty test e.

We all know that raws coming from china are not 100% but I want the mass specs so we can correct for dosing and "overdose" to meet the correct dosage on the label.

However, I do completely understand you guys wanting to have LS send in the sample instead of us. Im waiting for one more email confirming samples to be tested and payment info and then I will get back to you guys. If LS does agree and donate (more) of his TE, we will send him test cyp as replacement for what he has given up already.

Should have a confirmation on MS tomorrow.

TL

 

[vivame]

However, I do completely understand you guys wanting to have LS send in the sample instead of us. Im waiting for one more email confirming samples to be tested and payment info and then I will get back to you guys. If LS does agree and donate (more) of his TE, we will send him test cyp as replacement for what he has given up already.

Good to hear! Hopefully this will happen.

 

[shamrockbear1]

Ill get a random sample you won't know who order and I'll mass spec it it costs $100 a mass spec it but after I receive the samples id like store credit plus some and then give you the results ... Cause if your not happy with the results you'll be run off the board

 

[lightspan]

Yes, to an extent. Here is my problem...lots of people have emailed, PMed, a few have posted saying "the tren is amazing" or "the anavar is great" or "the test prop is really working well" etc. I have a hard time believing a supplier that has other good products (from the reviews thus far) would send out shitty test e.

We all know that raws coming from china are not 100% but I want the mass specs so we can correct for dosing and "overdose" to meet the correct dosage on the label.

However, I do completely understand you guys wanting to have LS send in the sample instead of us. Im waiting for one more email confirming samples to be tested and payment info and then I will get back to you guys. If LS does agree and donate (more) of his TE, we will send him test cyp as replacement for what he has given up already.

Should have a confirmation on MS tomorrow.

TL

I appreciate this offer, you're making the effort to do the right thing. I do have a sample of the test e out for ms, but happy to send another to your guy.

I also find it odd that your prop was great, based on my experience, but the test e had what we can agree to call "odd" bloodwork results. As i stated above, I also have someone running your var who has nothing but praise. You would not be the only lab to have gotten a shitty batch of test e lately. Honestly i hope i'm wrong and i'm just a genetic oddball who metabolizes test e freakishly quickly. There's hormone in it. That is clear.

Irrespective, the ms will provide the numbers, and i'd be more than happy to send my last sealed vial for testing. Your ms and mine provides two independent data points. We'll also have more bloodwork in a couple weeks, so there's even more data.

 

[bigpoppachump]

I heald out hope on you Titan but after reading the thread and posts by the username Titan on evolutionary I am convinced that's you. One day yes one day I will find myself a domestic UGL that's not full of shit. I still have plenty of time left in my search. The way you non shalantly shrug off the coincidence is a tell in itself because if I knew I was being falsely accused of something I would be a little more vehement in defending myself instead of "it must be a coincidence" and trying to move on to the next subject.

 

[Ozzy619]

I appreciate this offer, you're making the effort to do the right thing. I do have a sample of the test e out for ms, but happy to send another to your guy.

I also find it odd that your prop was great, based on my experience, but the test e had what we can agree to call "odd" bloodwork results. As i stated above, I also have someone running your var who has nothing but praise. You would not be the only lab to have gotten a shitty batch of test e lately. Honestly i hope i'm wrong and i'm just a genetic oddball who metabolizes test e freakishly quickly. There's hormone in it. That is clear.

Irrespective, the ms will provide the numbers, and i'd be more than happy to send my last sealed vial for testing. Your ms and mine provides two independent data points. We'll also have more bloodwork in a couple weeks, so there's even more data.

You're a very level headed guy LS, I have a lot of respect for some of your posts.

 

[lightspan]

I heald out hope on you Titan but after reading the thread and posts by the username Titan on evolutionary I am convinced that's you. One day yes one day I will find myself a domestic UGL that's not full of shit. I still have plenty of time left in my search. The way you non shalantly shrug off the coincidence is a tell in itself because if I knew I was being falsely accused of something I would be a little more vehement in defending myself instead of "it must be a coincidence" and trying to move on to the next subject.

about time I checked out this evo thread.