Titan Labs

[hotdog23]

Check out the mass spec thread guys.. from my understanding the test e is dosed at 202mg/ml according to somebody much more knowledgeable than myself..that's 80% of the advertised dose not 50%.
looks more like an issue with raw purity.. not intentionally bunk or underdosed gear.

It's 202mg/ml @ 50-60% purity, I forget which. So it's 202x0.6 = actual amount of gear. The test e is shit. The prop is shit. This dude and his raw supplier that he trusts so much, is shit. And yes that is him at Evo. Hopefully he makes things right with the ppl he fucked over. But don't count on it at this point.

 

[av ultra]

What about the dude who had the blood work come back 10000+ must have had a 1 gal jug attached to a iv.

 

[Colt44]

What about the dude who had the blood work come back 10000+ must have had a 1 gal jug attached to a iv.

Or he was on a gram to a gram and a half of the great white buffalo that is actual properly dosed gear.

 

[4leafclover]

Check out the mass spec thread guys.. from my understanding the test e is dosed at 202mg/ml according to somebody much more knowledgeable than myself..that's 80% of the advertised dose not 50%.
looks more like an issue with raw purity.. not intentionally bunk or underdosed gear.

You misread the mass spec, it is underdosed, because if he knew the purity of his raws, he could compensate. The mass spec states at it's purity level, the test is dosed @ 202 mg/ml, not 250 ml... Since the purity is piss poor (contains many other elements), this is what results in piss poor blood levels. It is almost 1/2 different elements besides the test molecule.

 

[TruBodybuilder1989]

"My reputation and who I am as a person will stand behind the raws of Titan 100%. I would be interested in buying some Titan products to even test out and report findings here."

Spoken by TruBodybuilder1989

Where is our schill now????

I'm here like show said not going anywhere. I switched over to all test-c for now, Titan is not my sole supplier. As show said I'm upset very upset to say the least. I have been offered three test-c as replacements and I will take those. I've been reading test-e has been lower purity out of china lately, same thing as mast-p being mast-e. Luckily a lot of my gear was purchased like 8-10 month ago besides the test-c. Yes show is right all my sources use to use the same group. However I do have bloods showing like 2,000 ng / dl on 250mg test-e but that test-e is from last spring 2013. I do believe the raw supplier is / was good but as stated the test-e is shitty right now.

 

[Blacken]

So currently it looks like this Titan neglected to test his powders and got screwed which inadvertently screwed over people buying from him. At least that is what, I believe because he wouldn't recommend people MS knowing he had under dosed crap.

These days even with a good source needs to have a good source for powders and needs to check it. Otherwise it's like playing a game of russian roulette. Hopefully it'll be a lesson learned and he doesn't run for the hills. I wouldn't bet on those odds however but I hope I'm proven wrong.

 

[element00]

I'm here like show said not going anywhere. I switched over to all test-c for now, Titan is not my sole supplier. As show said I'm upset very upset to say the least. I have been offered three test-c as replacements and I will take those. I've been reading test-e has been lower purity out of china lately, same thing as mast-p being mast-e. Luckily a lot of my gear was purchased like 8-10 month ago besides the test-c. Yes show is right all my sources use to use the same group. However I do have bloods showing like 2,000 ng / dl on 250mg test-e but that test-e is from last spring 2013. I do believe the raw supplier is / was good but as stated the test-e is shitty right now.

So now I hope you see why you received the response you did when you showed up.
Edit: but overall your word didn't mean much as you are not known here. It's the others that showed support that have to be accountable IMO

 

[4leafclover]

So currently it looks like this Titan neglected to test his powders and got screwed which inadvertently screwed over people buying from him. At least that is what, I believe because he wouldn't recommend people MS knowing he had under dosed crap.

These days even with a good source needs to have a good source for powders and needs to check it. Otherwise it's like playing a game of russian roulette. Hopefully it'll be a lesson learned and he doesn't run for the hills. I wouldn't bet on those odds however but I hope I'm proven wrong.

Or he could of been banking money the entire time his raws weren't tested. It did take nearly 2 months for this to come to light.

I didn't quite understand your second paragraph, the first sentence to be specific. Good source needs good source? LOL I kid you, but seriously I have no idea what you're trying to say.

I would suspect that since he has had 3 failures (mast, test e and p, and god knows what that anavar tab is beyond the 2%), his whole batch of raws should be in question.

I would not buy from this source. Regardless of the others who have sent messages to titan or posted here saying tren is g2g. Nothing tested thus far has looked promising, or the quality he promised he would deliver.

 

[datderetech]

Would pinning double the test e get the same results as properly dosed gear or does it not work that way?

 

[inkandmuscle]

Would pinning double the test e get the same results as properly dosed gear or does it not work that way?

I wouldn't pin it till we get a verdict on the dose... some are v saying it's dosed at 202mg/ml and others are saying it's less closer to 50%.. I really don't know enough to advise you any other way than to just hold off on pinning it if possible

 

[flexx89]

ive been doing 1.5cc of te and 1.5cc of tc per week. the kickstart i had in mind went to shit. now i dont know if i should eat this var or give them to my girl

 

[showstoppa]

So now I hope you see why you received the response you did when you showed up.
Edit: but overall your word didn't mean much as you are not known here. It's the others that showed support that have to be accountable IMO

You must be talking about me, and no where did I say I vouch for titan. I simply said I had bought from him before and the 1-test I got treated me well and that I do not vouch for him whats so ever because a source could go bad at anytime.

I also said he wasn't a source from the past and guess what? He isn't. I also said I had his paypal info, guess what, I still do.

Pumpingiron and I both know him from another board.

I have nothing to apologize for. I hope titan does the right thing and at a minimum doubles every persons test e order and whatever he has to do to make the prop and var right with people.

 

[datderetech]

I wouldn't pin it till we get a verdict on the dose... some are v saying it's dosed at 202mg/ml and others are saying it's less closer to 50%.. I really don't know enough to advise you any other way than to just hold off on pinning it if possible

I meant theoretically, if the test e is 50% purity, would pinning double get the same results as properly dosed gear. And unfortunately I double pinned a few hours ago before I saw that it might actually be 80% and not 50

 

[element00]

You must be talking about me, and no where did I say I vouch for titan. I simply said I had bought from him before and the 1-test I got treated me well and that I do not vouch for him whats so ever because a source could go bad at anytime.

I also said he wasn't a source from the past and guess what? He isn't. I also said I had his paypal info, guess what, I still do.

Pumpingiron and I both know him from another board.

I have nothing to apologize for. I hope titan does the right thing and at a minimum doubles every persons test e order and whatever he has to do to make the prop and var right with people.

Yeah, you are one that made statements that would have been interpreted by some as TL being gtg. You can explain it how you like. Doesn't affect me directly as I was never interested and I never mentioned anything about apologies. But either way you felt sure enough to make public statements and look where we are now

 

[showstoppa]

Wait so what you are saying is nobody should ever make a statement about there experience with a source? Because thats all I did.

And I don't really give a fuck how it was interpreted, but I sure as fuck am not going to have my name mentioned with something I.never said.

 

[element00]

Wait so what you are saying is nobody should ever make a statement about there experience with a source? Because thats all I did.

And I don't really give a fuck how it was interpreted, but I sure as fuck am not going to have my name mentioned with something I.never said.

You don't give a fuck how it was interpreted?? My point exactly

 

[vivame]

I meant theoretically, if the test e is 50% purity, would pinning double get the same results as properly dosed gear.

Yes.

 

[Blacken]

Or he could of been banking money the entire time his raws weren't tested. It did take nearly 2 months for this to come to light.

I didn't quite understand your second paragraph, the first sentence to be specific. Good source needs good source? LOL I kid you, but seriously I have no idea what you're trying to say.

I would suspect that since he has had 3 failures (mast, test e and p, and god knows what that anavar tab is beyond the 2%), his whole batch of raws should be in question.

I would not buy from this source. Regardless of the others who have sent messages to titan or posted here saying tren is g2g. Nothing tested thus far has looked promising, or the quality he promised he would deliver.

Yea had to rush back to work, didn't realize how retarded that sounded what I was trying to say is the ugl needs a solid source for the raws even if the ugl is trying to be legit he'll be screwed. Otherwise for the customers buying gear it's like playing russian roulette since they need actually two good sources the ugl and the raw supplier that supplies them. This is what separates a good ugl from a crappy one imo, they make sure what the are selling is legit they don't rely on trust there is no trust in business. It's about making money a scammer can make a few grand but if you want to make constant money and have some longevity you need to cover your ass with suppliers. It's a business at the end of the day. I guess I wrote that hoping Titan would learn or any ugl that looks but truth is I'm a nobody so it'll fall upon deaf ears.

I agree Titan shit is going to take a hell of a lot to dig himself out of that hole. If he was a scammer I figured he wouldn't have even wasted time putting the legit stuff even in however under dosed. Then again I'm naive I like to hope for the best in people. The only thing that saves me is I don't trust people for shit which is why I didn't pull the trigger.

 

[Greatblue56]

What about the dude who had the blood work come back 10000+ must have had a 1 gal jug attached to a iv.

That is the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!!! I can just picture this dude in a robe rolling a IV stand through the grocery with the water dispenser jug full of juice attached. "dude, what's in the jug?" ... "Premium Unleaded..."

 

[lightspan]

this is in the mass spec thread as well...


Ok, i've got a few minutes, so let me explain the spectra. First off, you do not figure in "displacement" of the test in the oil, sorry @MANWHORE. The compound dissolves in the oil, the volume delta is assumed to be zero for practical purposes. it is not zero, but it is negligible.

for the test e sample: 10microliters is dissolved into a know amount of chloroform (1.5 ml), and the sample in chloroform is injected into the mass spec. the mass spec has a very short column on the front end ("Waters") prior to the ionization chamber. that short column crudely separates the contents of the sample. bb, ba and oil blow through, and compound is shown as a peak or peaks. thus, in the spectrum you see one of more peaks, those are the "stuff" in the oil, the powder, whatever it is. the "stuff" is ionized, accelerted through the instrument field, and are detected as ions impacting the detector. molcular weight in "TOF" (time of flight) is determined by how long it takes the charged compound to travel the length of the ion trap.

if you look at the spectra, there are two numbers, one is "TIC" or total ion count. that is all the "stuff" that hit the detector. for the Benzyl alcohol, benzyl benzoate, oil chloroform you "tell" the instrument basically not to look for low molecular weight crap like that (not scan less than a certain mw). the sample contains 202 mg of "stuff" based on total ion count.

there are two peaks in the first spectrum, those peaks are the "stuff" one peak is test e, the other is whatever else is in the sample.