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diminishing returnsI notice I have a higher multiplier when I am on lower dose too.. and others have noticed the same.
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diminishing returnsI notice I have a higher multiplier when I am on lower dose too.. and others have noticed the same.
I haven't seen anything here in regards to a connection to symbiotics.Holy fuck..... I got a whole bunch of reading to do tonight..... unless anybody wants to spoon me the billet points.
Looks like a shit show..... so from what I have gathered and I still have about 500 post to read is; rep came over to meso thinking he could increase sales.... got bullied called daddy and now there is a theory that this bath tub operation is somewhat connected to sym.... o this may get good.
I haven’t even read the last 500 post but I bet he is dodging questions hasn’t tested anything and won’t show pics....
and yes you HAVE to read the posts by @51mesa! you're gonna love it. Bring a dictionary.Holy fuck..... I got a whole bunch of reading to do tonight..... unless anybody wants to spoon me the billet points.
Looks like a shit show..... so from what I have gathered and I still have about 500 post to read is; rep came over to meso thinking he could increase sales.... got bullied called daddy and now there is a theory that this bath tub operation is somewhat connected to sym.... o this may get good.
I haven’t even read the last 500 post but I bet he is dodging questions hasn’t tested anything and won’t show pics....
I think it’s interesting as well, I wasn’t being critical of you.Don’t hate to tell me anything. I was just spit balling numbers.
I may get bored and really crunch them later but just off those numbers a $700 bag of raw test will net less than 400 vials. At 250mg/ml it’s roughly 2.5g/vial and that’s not taking into account loss or calculating for impurity of the raws.
This isn’t to say that they aren’t still having a hell of a markup with tht being the case, but all of the components have to be considered such as solvents, oils, vials, and such. Some of the medium to larger equipment cost would be carried over a little more but all components have to be considered in a per vial cost to manufacture.
Interesting stuff to think about....for me at least.
I am glad to hear you seem to have taken my advice some time back about perusing pharma products rather than UGL, based on the issues you were having. Hope you’ve been having better luck.No wonder so much fake Tren and Primo are being passed around. I’ve had the pleasure of getting to try Pharma primo. Personally, I Don’t think it’s worth the price. But to each their own. Tren that I have tried from 3 different sources has all been trash IMO. Even my lipids panels were fine when I had blood work done. Sadly there is no “pharma grade Tren” because I do not trust buying Tren from any Underground lab. I try and avoid Underground Labs anymore if I’m being completely honest.
Why would you be questioning if Syns gear is underdosed based off of this thread? I don't speak for him but you could send it out for testing.I wonder if any the gear I got from Syn is under dosed. This thread really has me second guessing my purchases. I’ve checked it for floaters, nothing. His cialis is good and I have some Tbol that I haven’t taken yet.
DO NOT FORGET THE FAKE RAW TESTS RESULTS POSTED. THAT IS A HUGE ISSUE.I haven't seen anything here in regards to a connection to symbiotics.
There is a clear connection to synergy forge.
Sym, Syn. wanted to clarify incase you mistyped.
Source comes from sst. Pushed back against meso standards, and communicated poorly. Source then received the wrath of meso.
Last few days, source has been more present in thread and seems to be addressing members more than ignoring members. Source states his intention to now test all products. We are waiting on the follow through.
There is currently a floater complaint. An refundwas offered but the source wants to verify the order before sending the refund.
Viagra has received 2 complaints. We are told the product has been pulled and is out for testing. Refund has been offered if the test results come back poor.
This is an improvement in communication but, again, we are waiting to see the follow through.
Some questions still remain unanswered, particilarly the overdosing of products/math measuring question.
No further lab pics.
I think this answers your questions? Maybe someone else and fill in the gaps i've missed.
And fake raw tests from, from an ultra exclusive stateside secret source, from the future.Floaters, limp dick pills. This place has everything lol.
I missed this one.. what page is that on?DO NOT FORGET THE FAKE RAW TESTS RESULTS POSTED. THAT IS A HUGE ISSUE.
@Grab Bag, I am not trying to argue with you, but it seems like Jano did play a part in the formulation of the results. To what degree I am not sure yet, I know Syn is speaking to him. Jano offered to analyze the tests and I am not sure if he has had time to do that yet either.DO NOT FORGET THE FAKE RAW TESTS RESULTS POSTED. THAT IS A HUGE ISSUE.
Yes! that too. @51mesa provided sketchy raws reports. Like, "Hey guys, I literally just typed this up on my computer" sketchy.DO NOT FORGET THE FAKE RAW TESTS RESULTS POSTED. THAT IS A HUGE ISSUE.
Yes, I plan to test everything. I believe we will get more information regarding the raw testing once the conversation between Syn and Jano is finished or Jano has a chance to analyze the reports.Yes! that too. @51mesa provided sketchy raws reports. Like, "Hey guys, I literally just typed this up on my computer" sketchy.
If I understand correctly, @TripleBSolutions said he is now sending raws for testing to verify these results. Again, we are waiting to see that follow through.
Correct me if I am wrong @TripleBSolutions.
I'm not sure theres anything syn or jano could say that would make me trust those results @51mesa posted.Yes, I plan to test everything. I believe we will get more information regarding the raw testing once the conversation between Syn and Jano is finished or Jano has a chance to analyze the reports.
Sure, I will do my best to give you an estimated ETA.I'm not sure theres anything syn or jano could say that would make me trust those results @51mesa posted.
Also, no offense but I dont care about syn or his raws or his test results. This isnt Syn's thread. We want you to test your own raws. You did say you plan to do that. Now we are just waiting to see it happen. Let us know when you have an eta please. Estimated time of arrival.
Testing both raws and finished seems a bit redundant, and overly time consuming waiting on results to keep stock flowing. Why not one or the other... Either test raws and brew based on the purity %, or test brew batches, and wait for results to release the batch while being transparent of the results. Personally I would test raws, and offer a handful of credit to blind testers of finished...I'm not sure theres anything syn or jano could say that would make me trust those results @51mesa posted.
Also, no offense but I dont care about syn or his raws or his test results. This isnt Syn's thread. We want you to test your own raws. You did say you plan to do that. Now we are just waiting to see it happen. Let us know when you have an eta please. Estimated time of arrival.
Testing both raws and finished seems a bit redundant, and overly time consuming waiting on results to keep stock flowing. Why not one or the other... Either test raws and brew based on the purity %, or test brew batches, and wait for results to release the batch while being transparent of the results. Personally I would test raws, and offer a handful of credit to blind testers of finished...
I've read the entire thread sir. I have no say, just as much as you. You insert yourself as some authority, fact is your simply no one, just as the rest of us. You just have a larger mouth, and a craving for more attention. While I understand some of the concern, a lot of grasping, and over reaching is also taking place.Sorry. You just joined and you think you have a say in this?
Read the thread it’s been explained more than a few times.
Read. Read. Read. Ask questions if you need to. But don’t tell guys what we already do here.
Accuracy and accountability.Testing both raws and finished seems a bit redundant, and overly time consuming waiting on results to keep stock flowing. Why not one or the other... Either test raws and brew based on the purity %, or test brew batches, and wait for results to release the batch while being transparent of the results. Personally I would test raws, and offer a handful of credit to blind testers of finished...