Seeing the test results this morning was a nice change for me. Hopefully you continue with testing in a timely manner as you have said you will @TripleBSolutions
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@janoshik can you confirm this?New information regarding DHB. When submitting the samples I randomly grab a vial out of my storage. These vials are saved. When consulting with Jano about the result he brought up that if the DHB crashed at some point it would have negatively effected the results. After reading the email I checked on the vial of DHB used for the test. It had crashed. It is likely that negatively effected the results.
Crashing is pretty common for DHB and I brew mine with the absolute minimum amount of solvents to keep it suspended. Brewing it like this turns a compound that is known for its heavy pip into a compound that has very little or no pip upon injection.
EDIT: I will be taking further steps to confirm the results. I would recommend making sure your DHB is fully suspended before injection.
I'm waiting to hear back from my supplier in regards to why that happened and what steps will be taken to make it right. Credit seems a viable option and would allow users to get DHB that would test at 100mg/ml once I make it. This set of tests will result in changes.
That’s a helpful guide even if it’s just a rough estimate. Thank you.It's low, but not that low.
Remember - I switched to a method more sensitive to impurities in HGH in 2021.
If I had to make a rough guide, I'd say 90-93% low, 93-96% medium, 96%+ great quality, based on what I've seen in last 2 months, that I've been using solely the new method.
New information regarding DHB. When submitting the samples I randomly grab a vial out of my storage. These vials are saved. When consulting with Jano about the result he brought up that if the DHB crashed at some point it would have negatively effected the results. After reading the email I checked on the vial of DHB used for the test. It had crashed. It is likely that negatively effected the results.
Crashing is pretty common for DHB and I brew mine with the absolute minimum amount of solvents to keep it suspended. Brewing it like this turns a compound that is known for its heavy pip into a compound that has very little or no pip upon injection.
EDIT: I will be taking further steps to confirm the results. I would recommend making sure your DHB is fully suspended before injection.
I doubt Jano will confirm that. Will he confirm that crashing could effect a compound? Probably. He has no way to know or trust that I did everything right and he had no obligation to help me figure out why a product tested a certain way.@janoshik can you confirm this?
Not much to confirm - when Trip asked me, I literally wrote:@janoshik can you confirm this?
I doubt Jano will confirm that. Will he confirm that crashing could effect a compound? Probably. He has no way to know or trust that I did everything right and he had no obligation to help me figure out why a product tested a certain way.
Jano actually already went above and beyond on this.
Thanks @janoshik.Not much to confirm - when Trip asked me, I literally wrote:
"With DHB I feel like two options are possible:
1) shitty raw
2) it crashed somewhere along the way and you sampled the oil into the tiny vial without noticing it
DHB likes to crash, but unless you sampled from the crashed vial, I don't feel it's likely. "
I feel like my job is not only testing, but when community and my clients are involved, I always try to help as much as I can and provide advice that I can, so I can give back.
Thanks @janoshik.
So Trip this should be easy post the vial you said crashed that you took the sample from. This should be very very simple. You stated YOU checked on the vial and it crashed. So post up the pics of the crashed gear.
Seems like an unlikely excuse. How'd u not notice it was crashed when u drew the sample. Honestly you would have been better off not even bringing this up trip. Shouldve just ate the bad results and dealt with it. Now u gotta post pics of crashed gear but thats easy to fake and send another sample off but also u coukd correct the dose on next sample. So would've looked better to take the bad results.I doubt Jano will confirm that. Will he confirm that crashing could effect a compound? Probably. He has no way to know or trust that I did everything right and he had no obligation to help me figure out why a product tested a certain way.
Jano actually already went above and beyond on this.
I agree there should be a credit. I am one that has a handful of these that’s why I’mThere should still be a credit. Guys that want the credit just need to prove they bought DHB.
@TripleBSolutions
Take the little hit now. It’ll work out better for you. Store credit means they’ll be return customers at least and there’s no bs argument on whether it was dosed correctly or not.
Let’s not go down a negative path. Keep this positive....
Hopefully the response is really just transparency and he still intends to work some kind of credit.Seems like an unlikely excuse. How'd u not notice it was crashed when u drew the sample. Honestly you would have been better off not even bringing this up trip. Shouldve just ate the bad results and dealt with it. Now u gotta post pics of crashed gear but thats easy to fake and send another sample off but also u coukd correct the dose on next sample. So would've looked better to take the bad results.
I’ve been following the thread since thee beginning just never Posted, there’s plenty of examples of you not answering questions or beating around bush..Once again, would you care to point out the questions I have been evasive to?
I am keeping this factual. The DHB vial is crashed and I will be getting confirmation on the DHB. It seems likely that effected the test. Until I spoke with Jano about it was not even something I thought about. I will be confirming this information. This is where raw tests would have been helpful.
Then post those examples. I will attempt to clarify and apologise.I’ve been following the thread since thee beginning just never Posted, there’s plenty of examples of you not answering questions or beating around bush..
Post a picture of the crashed DHB vial you said you verified after you got the underdosed results
Once again, would you care to point out the questions I have been evasive to?
I am keeping this factual. The DHB vial is crashed and I will be getting confirmation on the DHB. It seems likely that effected the test. Until I spoke with Jano about it was not even something I thought about. I will be confirming this information. This is where raw tests would have been helpful.