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I cannot disagree wih anything you said here. It's the same for all politicians. No one holding office should be posting nonsense or out of emotion rather than logic bc they're supporting to be representing US, the people. I don want an emotional representative. I want a logical one that can either fix the issues I have or persuade me through logic why it wouldn't be feasible.
I defend Obamacare for bringing health insurance accessibility to those who didn't previously have it, not for any presumed excellence. I prefer improvement over repeal.
I loathe it because it forces me to pay for services I don't need or care I would never use. There is no insurance for all solution besides nationalized healthcare for all. Devoid of that in order to accommodate everyone you are forcing mandates on everyone even though they don't want or will ever need that particular service. One example would be maternity care being mandated in every plan. If I was a single male why should I be forced to pay for that? There is no easy solution to healthcare from my perspective because one way or another a certain portion of the population won't be happy with something.
I like Bernie Sanders idea for healthcare
universal healthcare for all with single payer. Only people against this is the health care giants who will be loosing profits for their top 1% administrators and CEO's. This plan does completely opposite. There are too many demographic groups with medium to low income households will gravely suffer with this new healthcare bill. And the top 1% of income earners get the most benefit. In a time of crisis like this why should benefits go to the people who doesn't need it ?
Not necessarily.
If it is shown he collaborated with the Russians, I say if bc there's no direct evidence yet that he has, it could very well be he is a bumbling buffoon and the smarts that kept it well hidden was from the Russians.
Another possibility could be that he's dumber than a bag of rocks and he had the smarter people around him do the dirty work. Maybe he was kept in the loop, maybe he wasn't for plausible deniability.
Still another possibility is that he had no knowledge of the collusion with Russians by his own people, maybe bc they realized he couldn't be trusted to keep it quiet or under wraps. In which case he did not criminally collude with the Russians but his people and campaign people did.
It's also pretty hard to defend "24,000,000 Americans losing coverage" and "billions in tax cuts for the rich" but wait, they are defending it.
Jeremiahflex
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I agree it provides care to people who didn't have it but screwed a lot of other people over. I want to believe obama had good intentions but it just didn't turn out the way we hoped like this
Or he thinks he can strong arm anyone in his way by way of presidential power or margarita glass !!!!
http://huff.to/2nVuMvb (Trump's Links To Convicted Felon Who Stabbed A Man With A Margarita Glass Just Got Weirder | The Huffington Post)
It's also possible there is zero collusion and that it's all bullshit.
DedLift
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Took the words right out of my mouth
The government does not do well exclusively running any program. The V.A is a good example. There are pros and cons to single payer like anything else.I like Bernie Sanders idea for healthcare
This plan does completely opposite. There are too many demographic groups with medium to low income households will gravely suffer with this new healthcare bill. And the top 1% of income earners get the most benefit. In a time of crisis like this why should benefits go to the people who doesn't need it ?
How is this bill any different than ACA In that front? Because of the mandate? It's still there but goes to insurance companies. Tax breaks and reimbursement is still there so I don't see why it should be repealed and replaced instead of improving it?
I'll get some technical info from Bernie's old plan to be able to talk intelligibly about it. But it can't be any worst than the last 10 years and if this is passed next 10 years.
Yokes
Again I don't know how much worse it could be as opposed to now. It would be worse but just in different areas. Better in some but worse in others.
They want to repeal because they don't want to be associated with that bill and it was a campaign promise to repeal. I have stated I don't like the current healthcare bill they are proposing and you're correct that it's basically obamacare light.
