TSL LABS

I'll help you remember. INH is one of the most helpful, dedicated, insightful, intelligent, and stand up mofos on this board. Whether he does or doesn't have personal experience with a source is irrelevant.
Of course I do, I'm a member of Meso - we ALL have a dog is this fight.

Casual I may be but merely an observer I am not.

Have you ever used hammer's/prime's gear?



Alot of guys seem to have opinions about TSL (and other labs) but very few with actual experience . I got TSL experience , do you two ? Casual observers...:confused::confused:

Only those of us that actually buy & consume these products can give accurate testimony if the said products are true or fake and if the sources are crooks or not...
The rest of you are just observers , as cdnguy was...
 
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Alot of guys seem to have opinions about TSL (and other labs) but very few with actual experience . I got TSL experience , do you two ? Casual observers...:confused::confused:

We can't be merely observers if we are actively participating.

Speaking of casually; you have twice now casually dodged any real discussion on the topic and casually dodged my question about hammer while aggressively trying to shove your illogical and frankly ridiculous "argument" in our face.

I have little hope for a real discussion of substance with you but I think you can answer a simple question, yeah (this one is rhetorical - meaning, you don't answer it)?

Have you ever used hammer's/prime's gear?
 
We can't be merely observers if we are actively participating.

Speaking of casually; you have twice now casually dodged any real discussion on the topic and casually dodged my question about hammer while aggressively trying to shove your illogical and frankly ridiculous "argument" in our face.

I have little hope for a real discussion of substance with you but I think you can answer a simple question, yeah (this one is rhetorical - meaning, you don't answer it)?

Have you ever used hammer's/prime's gear?


Hammer ? Years ago but not lately.I wouldnt deal with him now , whats it matter ?
 
Only those of us that actually buy & consume these products can give accurate testimony if the said products are true or fake and if the sources are crooks or not...
The rest of you are just observers , as cdnguy was...

In response to yur edit:

Testimony, yes. But now you're moving the goal posts.

One does not need to have personal experience to form an educated opinion.

Just as someone with trivial experience doesn't have accurate testimony.
 
In response to yur edit:

Testimony, yes. But now you're moving the goal posts.

One does not need to have personal experience to form an educated opinion.

Just as someone with trivial experience doesn't have accurate testimony.


Ok smartass you go inject some educated opinion and tell me if it was fake or not...
 
Hammer ? Years ago but not lately.I wouldnt deal with him now , whats it matter ?

Is there a post on Meso that can prove you used hammers gear?

I ask because I was pretty confident you didn't use his gear. So if you actually did, and not just saying it for arguments sake, you foiled my plan to ask for your opinion on hammer, lol.

Even still, the fact remains - no experience required to form an educated opinion.
 
Ok smartass you go inject some educated opinion and tell me if it was fake or not...

BTW, how valuable is a single testimony based on a single experience from a single purchase? Should that experience and testimony be extrapolated across all time? A source is infinitely G2G?

In relation to the case above; does an educated opinion, based on many users experiences and testimony over time, as well as analytical analysis have more value?
 
BTW, how valuable is a single testimony based on a single experience from a single purchase? Should that experience and testimony be extrapolated across all time? A source is infinitely G2G?

In relation to the case above; does an educated opinion, based on many users experiences and testimony over time, as well as analytical analysis have more value?

I only relay my actual experiences here . I hide nothing and give a honest review of my experience of the source , not someone elses . And I have slammed my share of labs here that not only harmed me but others here .
 
I only relay my actual experiences here . I hide nothing and give a honest review of my experience of the source , not someone elses . And I have slammed my share of labs here that not only harmed me but others here .

And it's appreciated.

I still want to know:

Do you research a lab before making a decision to purchase?
 
And it's appreciated.

I still want to know:

Do you research a lab before making a decision to purchase?

Hmm. Back when TSL came around last year I drilled them hard about their motives and mode of operation . I liked his answers then he said he would sell test-C
5 vials @$150 , I got several . And I announced here I would try it out . The S&H was fast and professional and it Labmaxed a strong emerald green .

8 weeks later I posted arm pics here I had gained 12-15lbs and about this time several guys posted 7000 and 10,000ng TT bloodtests , same test-c batch .
 
Hmm. Back when TSL came around last year I drilled them hard about their motives and mode of operation . I liked his answers then he said he would sell test-C
5 vials @$150 , I got several . And I announced here I would try it out . The S&H was fast and professional and it Labmaxed a strong emerald green .

8 weeks later I posted arm pics here I had gained 12-15lbs and about this time several guys posted 7000 and 10,000ng TT bloodtests , same test-c batch .
Your experiences pretty much jive with the experiences many people on a private forum I am on had with TSL, and your honest and straightforward post helps bolster the feeling that TSL does have solid products just rather dicey customer service.

And I also agree researching a lab before making your purchase is a very smart idea. I tend to take reviews on forums with a grain of salt but people who share their experiences with labs should be able to share the info without being labeled a shill.
 
Hmm. Back when TSL came around last year I drilled them hard about their motives and mode of operation . I liked his answers then he said he would sell test-C
5 vials @$150 , I got several . And I announced here I would try it out . The S&H was fast and professional and it Labmaxed a strong emerald green .

8 weeks later I posted arm pics here I had gained 12-15lbs and about this time several guys posted 7000 and 10,000ng TT bloodtests , same test-c batch .
Here in lies the irony... you drilled him with no prior experience, which is the way most of us do, because we want value for our money.

While I agree, some people are just trolling, most have a vested interest whether they may buy soon or in the future, or are looking out for others. Everyone should welcome an educated opinion about a source, regardless of past personal experience with the source.
 
Here in lies the irony... you drilled him with no prior experience, which is the way most of us do, because we want value for our money.

While I agree, some people are just trolling, most have a vested interest whether they may buy soon or in the future, or are looking out for others. Everyone should welcome an educated opinion about a source, regardless of past personal experience with the source.
"Educated" being the key word. Educated and rational.
 
Hmm. Back when TSL came around last year I drilled them hard about their motives and mode of operation . I liked his answers then he said he would sell test-C
5 vials @$150 , I got several . And I announced here I would try it out . The S&H was fast and professional and it Labmaxed a strong emerald green .

8 weeks later I posted arm pics here I had gained 12-15lbs and about this time several guys posted 7000 and 10,000ng TT bloodtests , same test-c batch .

All great news and I'm happy you had a good experience but throughout this discussion you continue to dodge my straightforward questions and the topic where this discussion all started. Which you started, actually.

I assumed there was some level of mutual respect between us, therefore I also expected a certain level of integrity in your responses and more importantly some notion of accountability for the statements you made.

So since you chose to run around in circles, move the goal posts, and not directly address the statements you made, I'll just sum it up:

1. You said, only people with personal experience with a source should offer their opinion and that anyone else should "shut their pie-hole" as they have nothing of value to offer.

2. You're 100% wrong. People with opinions can offer value too and do not need to keep quiet.

3. People with personal experience and people with an opinion should speak/post their minds. It's the readers job to assess and assign value.

4. Not all personal experiences have the same value, same as opinions. However, they are both important aspects of evaluating a source and the information should be used as an individual sees fit.

5. No one should be silenced (except maybe that attention whore in elites thread).

6. Finally, Meso owns these threads, not individuals and certainly not sources.
 
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