Understanding DNP practice

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Hey everyone. One of my students (Niroshan) and I are trying to understand the practice of DNP in bodybuilding. Can you please help by correcting or adding to the below? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Sorry it is so long but we want to understand properly. Feel free to only answer part.


1. What substances should you and shouldn’t you use with DNP?

(a) What shouldn’t you use with DNP? We’ve heard alcohol, illicit drugs like ecstasy, any others? Certain AASs?

(b) What should you or do you use with DNP? Certain AASs? pre-workouts? other fat loss supplements?

2. How do you practice DNP?

From my understanding you should:

(a) probably start with a low dose first (i.e. 200mg) and slowly increase after a minimum of 4 days if you need more, up to a maximum dose around 600-800mg.

(b) not be on DNP for more than 10 days.

(c) eat mostly fat and protein, avoiding carbohydrates where possible, to avoid excessive heat.

(d) avoid using DNP before sleep so that you don’t get night sweats.

(e) use air-conditioning and cold showers to stay cool.

Is this correct? How does this align with your practices? Is there anything I missed that you might do to reduce risk?


3. What is your understanding of DNP in terms of:

(a) how it works in the body?

(b) risks and side effects?

 

[Aftermath9716]

Holy crap your profile said last seen July welp dont mind me

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Sorry it took a while to respond. I lost a family member with lung cancer prematurely to COVID. I wasn't if the mood to talk to anyone about anything.
So I usually try to read up extra on extreme stuff like DNP or insulin of course anyone should read up if they are thinking of trying something so potentially dangerous. I just got lucky stumbling upon that article about the China warehouse incident.
The hemoperfusion of course can't be done at home but if you are suffering from extreme high temperature 104⁰+ and make it to the hospital in time they should be able to pass your blood through an extracorporeal circuit with a disposable, adsorbent-containing cartridge , typically activated charcoal or an exchange resin. (Yes I got that off the interweb).
I mean in the case where nothing else could possibly save you this treatment just might do it. You rush to the hospital, explain exactly what you took and that your body is going into hyperthermia and that you need hemoperfusion treatment immediately. I had never heard a treatment mentioned other then dantrolene up until I read that article.
I know people are going to take it so they might as well be aware of any treatment options.
I am now not as certain about taking it despite the fact that I gained a shit ton of weight since the death in the family.
I'm now up to 287lbs. I started wellbutrin today and it seemed to help with my food cravings a lot. I will continue to take bupropion 100mg 2x/day with 8mg of naltrexone in an alcohol suspension I made.
Just homemade Contrave. I have adderall as backup but I use it sparingly since I build up a resistance quick. All I need is to control my appetite for a week and I usually regain my ability to eat less and be satisfied.

Thanks for getting back to me! So sorry for your loss, and please don't apologise for the delay. It has been a crazy year. I am very lucky to be in Australia (and a part of Australia that hasn't been hard hit) and have not had to go through anywhere near as much as a lot of people.
Unfortunately my student who was supposed to be leading this research on DNP didn't really do a great job of it so it hasn't really gone anywhere. But from what I have learnt about DNP most people say it is not worth the risk and that you can achieve the same results much more safely

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Holy crap your profile said last seen July welp dont mind me

yeah, i have been pretty absent lately so i can see why you would think that

 

[Trenbologna]

Pretty sure the person is long gone bro and sorry about your loss.

Thanks for getting back to me! So sorry for your loss, and please don't apologise for the delay. It has been a crazy year. I am very lucky to be in Australia (and a part of Australia that hasn't been hard hit) and have not had to go through anywhere near as much as a lot of people.
Unfortunately my student who was supposed to be leading this research on DNP didn't really do a great job of it so it hasn't really gone anywhere. But from what I have learnt about DNP most people say it is not worth the risk and that you can achieve the same results much more safely

Well the lethal dosage varies from person to person. Perhaps a small % of people are either much more sensitive to the drug or perhaps they may have had some preexisting conditions.
(One girl died of hyperthermia after ingesting like 4mg) I think down the road we may end up getting some interesting compounds from DNP. I mean what the chemical does to our is pretty incredible. The whole inhibition of ATP by shuttling protons across cell membranes. (Or something like that it's been a while lol)
It's the kind of thing wonder drugs might be derived from one day.
Oh well I wish you a great 2021 and good luck with your articles.

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Well the lethal dosage varies from person to person. Perhaps a small % of people are either much more sensitive to the drug or perhaps they may have had some preexisting conditions.
(One girl died of hyperthermia after ingesting like 4mg) I think down the road we may end up getting some interesting compounds from DNP. I mean what the chemical does to our is pretty incredible. The whole inhibition of ATP by shuttling protons across cell membranes. (Or something like that it's been a while lol)
It's the kind of thing wonder drugs might be derived from one day.
Oh well I wish you a great 2021 and good luck with your articles.

Thanks so much. I will be watching this space as it is definitely a fascinating drug. Hopefully i get time to give it more attention one day in the future.
I will post about my papers as they get published if you are interested. I will also do videos of the findings too if people are interested in my research

 

[Trenbologna]

Pretty sure the person is long gone bro and sorry about your loss.

Thanks for the condolences.

 

[Trenbologna]

Thanks so much. I will be watching this space as it is definitely a fascinating drug. Hopefully i get time to give it more attention one day in the future.
I will post about my papers as they get published if you are interested. I will also do videos of the findings too if people are interested in my research

Yeah absolutely I would be interested in the videos as well.

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Yeah absolutely I would be interested in the videos as well.

if you want you can always follow me on facebook (Mair Underwood-Researcher) as that's where I am most active. Also on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/mairunderwood

 

[Trenbologna]

I just found out my YouTube account got terminated. Never even got a warning lol.
Trying to appeal as we speak. I guess I trolled one too many snowflakes.

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

I just found out my YouTube account got terminated. Never even got a warning lol.
Trying to appeal as we speak. I guess I trolled one too many snowflakes.

my youtube was shutdown for 6 months or more recently - and I don't troll anyone Never got an explanation despite appealing repeatedly. They just put it back up eventually. bloody youtube

 

[Trenbologna]

my youtube was shutdown for 6 months or more recently - and I don't troll anyone Never got an explanation despite appealing repeatedly. They just put it back up eventually. bloody youtube

Well a warning or even a suspension would have been nice before immediate termination. Gonna have to appeal I guess. No idea if it will work. I'm doubtful.

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Well a warning or even a suspension would have been nice before immediate termination. Gonna have to appeal I guess. No idea if it will work. I'm doubtful.

i know the feeling! all i was told was "multiple breaches of our community guidelines" but never any detail of what I did. to this day I have no idea what I was supposed to have done, if someone complained about me. good luck with it. it is suckful. I found that posting on youtube's social media can help you get their attention

 

[Trenbologna]

i know the feeling! all i was told was "multiple breaches of our community guidelines" but never any detail of what I did. to this day I have no idea what I was supposed to have done, if someone complained about me. good luck with it. it is suckful. I found that posting on youtube's social media can help you get their attention

You mean like YouTube's Twitter account or something?

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

You mean like YouTube's Twitter account or something?

yep. if you don't get a response to your appeal soon I would tweet about how the cancelled your account without explanation. when i did it they actually responded to my appeal finally (I had appealed 3 times by this stage!) . they seem to care about their image

 

[Trenbologna]

Thanks i just got this message from them to contact my administer to reestablish my account. We shall find out tomorrow I guess.
Ok I'm hitting the rack Mair it was nice talking to you again. I'll keep in touch! Happy holidays!