Valiant labs

[Meterman05]

raw hplc testing looks the same as ppl's
is this normal? same supplier?

Probably. Realistically there are probably 3-4factories in China making AAS. Panda probably just buys the most. It looks like every test that a supplier shows from there is the same. You never hear about the factory recalling bad product and it has to happen from time to time.

 

[valiant]

raw hplc testing looks the same as ppl's
is this normal? same supplier?

Yes that’s explained. What it does is put a go between in between you and an overseas shipping address which is more likely than a domestic pack to get seized. If someone wants straight from there I can do that also. All the digs and comments negative comments doesn’t have to buy. This is why I love being an American it’s a free country. (Well for now ) anyone can give me a shot or not and all is still good.

 

[valiant]

I hope create your products with more preparation and research than this intro

lol at the black light. What the fuck, are you jizzing in your media bottle?

It’s a uv light that shows any dirt or dust in our room. Yes anything in the glass including jizz. Uv also helps disinfect

 

[valiant]

I was gonna tell you to fuck off back to sst, but it seems like you are trying...sorta kinda.
So, if you want an education, read the tripleb thread. It was suggested to you before, but you didnt do it and still made a second intro. Go read it. take notes. All you need to know is in it. You are getting solid suggestions already, but after the months long barbender experience, people are probably tired of the hand holding.
Good Luck

I’m gonna read it today. Yea that’s the second time I seen it. I appreciate it. I’ll take the lumps on the chin. I take it as growing pains. But no hard feelings toward anyone. Thanks again man. Email us I’ll give you a promo code for an additional discount

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Yes that’s explained. What it does is put a go between in between you and an overseas shipping address which is more likely than a domestic pack to get seized. If someone wants straight from there I can do that also. All the digs and comments negative comments doesn’t have to buy. This is why I love being an American it’s a free country. (Well for now ) anyone can give me a shot or not and all is still good.

I think you’ll find that this kind of attitude isn’t going to work here. Trips tried the same thing and we eviscerated him for it. You need to do better.

Just because you keep pushing your website doesn’t mean that you’ll get sales here. It takes more. You might get a few orders from dumb new guys but that represents about 5% of what you could get if you do things the correct way.

There’s a lot of sources already. It’s a competitive market and so far you haven’t shown anything that would get us to order from you instead of the established sources with tested products and a track record.

 

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[shackleford]

Yes that’s explained. What it does is put a go between in between you and an overseas shipping address which is more likely than a domestic pack to get seized. If someone wants straight from there I can do that also. All the digs and comments negative comments doesn’t have to buy. This is why I love being an American it’s a free country. (Well for now ) anyone can give me a shot or not and all is still good.

Maybe some of the comments you interpret as negative are people who do want to try but have some concerns they want to clear up first. Its about building trust here. An attitude that says "if you dont like what we've presented to you, you dont have to try us" isnt going to gain any trust or encourage anyone to buy from you. Look, we are hand holding again, teaching business ettiquette.

Bottom line is you are going to get some, alot, of shit here. Its how it works. Remain professional and work to build the trust of the members. Hear what we say. If you dont like meso, you dont have to try to source here

 

[muscletrain]

I’m gonna read it today. Yea that’s the second time I seen it. I appreciate it. I’ll take the lumps on the chin. I take it as growing pains. But no hard feelings toward anyone. Thanks again man. Email us I’ll give you a promo code for an additional discount

You skipped my question of why your HPLC tests are dated from 2019? How could that possibly apply to anything you're selling today.

 

[valiant]

You skipped my question of why your HPLC tests are dated from 2019? How could that possibly apply to anything you're selling today.

Last time I updated the photos. I have batches of current ones. The quality is the same. But I’ll update them. Hopefully someone from this forum will give it a shot and then post bloods and get a 150 dollar credit

 

[muscletrain]

Last time I updated the photos. I have batches of current ones. The quality is the same. But I’ll update them. Hopefully someone from this forum will give it a shot and then post bloods and get a 150 dollar credit

Then you should upload the current ones? What is the point of pasting 2019 HPLC tests that are 2 years old, it provides zero credibility. infact why didn't you upload the 2021 tests and post them, is this a sign of laziness on your part or the fact that you do not have updated testing on your raws and just used the 2019 tests as your basis for this source of raws being a quality provider?

Meso does not care so much about bloods as it does proper HPLC testing through a source like @janoshik or lab4tox. What are bloods going to tell us about something like Tren? Or Anavar? or Primobolan?

Go look at how much money TripleB spent on Janoshik testing before he was accepted around here, you seem to be posting HPLC testing from the raw suppliers themselves.

Also no one is going to accept another SST source dragging their feet for 4 months before they were up to the standards of Meso again like TripleB did. It took 300 pages of arguing for him to get it right.

 

[justanoob]

is this a sign of laziness on your part

I got the impression from the half assed intro, that going above and beyond is not something @valiant will be known for. He likely has 2019 HPLC posted because his current base couldn’t care less about testing.

Ive seen quite a few members here give him solid advice, so he could try to make it work here. But honestly it just seems he’s trying to direct traffic to his site and pick up a few straggler sales.

No current raw testing, no finished product testing, and unless I missed it, no testing incentive besides blood work, which means jackshit.

 

[muscletrain]

I got the impression from the half assed intro, that going above and beyond is not something @valiant will be known for. He likely has 2019 HPLC posted because his current base couldn’t care less about testing.

Ive seen quite a few members here give him solid advice, so he could try to make it work here. But honestly it just seems he’s trying to direct traffic to his site and pick up a few straggler sales.

No current raw testing, no finished product testing, and unless I missed it, no testing incentive besides blood work, which means jackshit.

He has bloodwork testing incentive but besides HGH serum and testing for testosterone levels bloods are essentially useless and a highly inferior method of verifying a source literally selling 15+ products.

There is zero chance this source sends his products in to Jano and fronts the $1200+ USD it would require to get his stuff properly tested up to Meso standards. He thought Meso would be another easy board for free advertising, SST people don't give a shit what's in their vials.

The sad part is it REALLY is not hard to have a proper thread on Meso and meso is so large you would rake in the money, I'm sure TripleB is doing great after all his bullshit, but yet new sources still can't get it right or just want the easy way out. Bodes well for the guy literally brewing stuff you're going to inject into your body.

Can't even be arsed to upload HPLC tests that aren't from 2019.

 

[justanoob]

He has bloodwork testing incentive but besides HGH serum and testing for testosterone levels bloods are essentially useless and a highly inferior method of verifying a source literally selling 15+ products.

There is zero chance this source sends his products in to Jano and fronts the $1200+ USD it would require to get his stuff properly tested up to Meso standards. He thought Meso would be another easy board for free advertising, SST people don't give a shit what's in their vials.

The sad part is it REALLY is not hard to have a proper thread on Meso and meso is so large you would rake in the money, I'm sure TripleB is doing great after all his bullshit, but yet new sources still can't get it right or just want the easy way out. Bodes well for the guy literally brewing stuff you're going to inject into your body.

Can't even be arsed to upload HPLC tests that aren't from 2019.

Yeah that was exactly my point. To lazy to keep current with HPLC testing (even though he claims to have them). And to lazy to read through one or two source threads to get an idea of what we look for. Literally to lazy to properly run his own business. If he half asses his marketing, what else is he half assing?

@valiant hoped to come in here, and make a quick buck, and thought his “America people are free to order from me if they want” slogan was going to be enough to get everyone on board.

 

[Meterman05]

Yes that’s explained. What it does is put a go between in between you and an overseas shipping address which is more likely than a domestic pack to get seized. If someone wants straight from there I can do that also. All the digs and comments negative comments doesn’t have to buy. This is why I love being an American it’s a free country. (Well for now ) anyone can give me a shot or not and all is still good.

@valiant That's not explained on the page ordering raws that's how the pack comes. Your intentionally putting domestic on your raw section in hopes that no one looks and orders thinking they will receive on a 4-6 day domestic timeline. You know this that's exactly why you label it as domestic. Then when it takes 14 days plus and they ask you why it's taking so long your going to tell them that's how it comes. That's a bait and switch technique and you know it. Your excuse of "if you don't like that then don't buy" doesn't even work because your intentionally misleading the customer. They think they are getting domestic raws when it's really just a reshipping service. They can't even make an educated choice because your being deceptive.

Since you have already started off that way I would advise anyone on here with a hard DON'T BUY because I can only imagine if there is an issue your going to give them the run around.

 

[Meterman05]

Here you motherfucking liar. I double checked where does it say that your order ships internationally?

 

[valiant]

@valiant That's not explained on the page ordering raws that's how the pack comes. Your intentionally putting domestic on your raw section in hopes that no one looks and orders thinking they will receive on a 4-6 day domestic timeline. You know this that's exactly why you label it as domestic. Then when it takes 14 days plus and they ask you why it's taking so long your going to tell them that's how it comes. That's a bait and switch technique and you know it. Your excuse of "if you don't like that then don't buy" doesn't even work because your intentionally misleading the customer. They think they are getting domestic raws when it's really just a reshipping service. They can't even make an educated choice because your being deceptive.

Since you have already started off that way I would advise anyone on here with a hard DON'T BUY because I can only imagine if there is an issue your going to give them the run around.

Yea man wasn’t intentional. That’s what I mean. It’s not bad intentions. It’s domestic cause it’s shipped to a customer from a domestic address. I was honest as soon as you asked. Sorry for the misunderstanding

 

[valiant]

I was gonna tell you to fuck off back to sst, but it seems like you are trying...sorta kinda.
So, if you want an education, read the tripleb thread. It was suggested to you before, but you didnt do it and still made a second intro. Go read it. take notes. All you need to know is in it. You are getting solid suggestions already, but after the months long barbender experience, people are probably tired of the hand holding.
Good Luck

I been running around all day with family obligations wanted you to know I didn’t forget and I’m gonna read the whole tripple
B thread. Thank you for schooling me on that.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Yea man wasn’t intentional. That’s what I mean. It’s not bad intentions. It’s domestic cause it’s shipped to a customer from a domestic address. I was honest as soon as you asked. Sorry for the misunderstanding

BUT it's shipped from overseas to that person first before it gets to me.

That's a domestic remailer. You know the difference.

 

[Norma Jeane Mortenson]

Last time I updated the photos. I have batches of current ones. The quality is the same. But I’ll update them. Hopefully someone from this forum will give it a shot and then post bloods and get a 150 dollar credit

The quality is the same haha.

 

[Nolij]

Seems like a nice guy, lol