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UpNorth said:
First rule of security, don't explain it over an open forum?
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Every other source has managed to explain it without there being an issue. Hell, there was a weeks-long discussion about Brewly’s setup. If a source can’t explain how they’re running their opsec even in vague terms then their brain is way too smooth to ever receive bitcoin from me. I know for a fact I’m not the only one who cares about security. Having the most fyyyaaahhhh gear this side of Lambo Big Rush Labs won’t mean shit if it’s sitting in an evidence locker at your local DEA office. He chose to be on the clearnet, so now he gets to discuss in the open how he plans to keep data safe and his customers from getting knocks on their doors. Onus is on him, not us.
 
Iron_Yuppie said:
Every other source has managed to explain it without there being an issue. Hell, there was a weeks-long discussion about Brewly’s setup. If a source can’t explain how they’re running their opsec even in vague terms then their brain is way too smooth to ever receive bitcoin from me. I know for a fact I’m not the only one who cares about security. Having the most fyyyaaahhhh gear this side of Lambo Big Rush Labs won’t mean shit if it’s sitting in an evidence locker at your local DEA office. He chose to be on the clearnet, so now he gets to discuss in the open how he plans to keep data safe and his customers from getting knocks on their doors. Onus is on him, not us.
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Just spoke to him. He has a gmail account and he accepts all major credit cards, kohl’s cash and PayPal. G2G.
 
Hey guys this is a member of my team. @ValiantRep he will be explaining all of our opsec and handle any questions , concerns or anything anyone needs. I will still be reading and active. I’m already reading the entire thread of triple b that was suggested and This is a different beast than other forums so I am going to take the time to read and take it all in. My opsec though is not as lazy as what was previous mentioned about that private source. I enjoy my freedom. I know this will turn into a good relationship. Thank you all even the ones that cooked my ass lol.
 
valiant said:
Hey guys this is a member of my team. @ValiantRep he will be explaining all of our opsec and handle any questions , concerns or anything anyone needs. I will still be reading and active. I’m already reading the entire thread of triple b that was suggested and This is a different beast than other forums so I am going to take the time to read and take it all in. My opsec though is not as lazy as what was previous mentioned about that private source. I enjoy my freedom. I know this will turn into a good relationship. Thank you all even the ones that cooked my ass lol.
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Cooked your ass? Lol. This has been tame. I honestly don’t think you really want to be here. This is a lot harder than you thought it would be.
 
BigBaldBeardGuy said:
Cooked your ass? Lol. This has been tame. I honestly don’t think you really want to be here. This is a lot harder than you thought it would be.
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For a source that was in SST coming to Meso is usually the opposite as they are used to.

I know how Meso works and i want this to be a good source, and yes, that depends 100% on us.

I have seen and read most of the threads, i know most of your handles and i appreaciate what you guys do for the community.

I will make that Valiant does everything the Meso way, starting for now.
 
Hi everyone, im Mike and i will be the new rep for Valiant, I really appreciate Meso and i have been lurking around here for a long time to the point that i have a huge respect for most of the members that have already posted here, i know that coming to Meso is a huge step and that Meso has the highest of the standards.

Since I really appreciate Meso i want to do things in the Meso way.

1)Valiant has contacted Janoshik, he’s going to get his products tested.

2)We are going to offer a testing incentive, members who send our products to Jano for testing will be reimbursed the cost of the test in store credit.

3)Related to the OPSEC that a member mentioned, the steps of our online OPSEC would be to activate the vpn in the host + a permanent kill switch (we use a VPN with a no log policy), configure and open a virtual machine with Tails (which only allows connections trough TOR) and configure it in NAT mode.

Our website is encrypted and your information is deleted as soon as it’s not needed.
 
ValiantRep said:
Hi everyone, im Mike and i will be the new rep for Valiant, I really appreciate Meso and i have been lurking around here for a long time to the point that i have a huge respect for most of the members that have already posted here, i know that coming to Meso is a huge step and that Meso has the highest of the standards.

Since I really appreciate Meso i want to do things in the Meso way.

1)Valiant has contacted Janoshik, he’s going to get his products tested.

2)We are going to offer a testing incentive, members who send our products to Jano for testing will be reimbursed the cost of the test in store credit.

3)Related to the OPSEC that a member mentioned, the steps of our online OPSEC would be to activate the vpn in the host + a permanent kill switch (we use a VPN with a no log policy), configure and open a virtual machine with Tails (which only allows connections trough TOR) and configure it in NAT mode.

Our website is encrypted and your information is deleted as soon as it’s not needed.
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1) Please provide a list of all raws and finished product that are being tested, before reaults come back.

2) I would suggest at least compensating for the cost of testing AND shipping fees.

3) Someone smarter than me will address your opsec.

Are you a member here? I think members are required to make their affiliations known, per underground rules.
 
shackleford said:
1) Please provide a list of all raws and finished product that are being tested, before reaults come back.

2) I would suggest at least compensating for the cost of testing AND shipping fees.

3) Someone smarter than me will address your opsec.

Are you a member here? I think members are required to make their affiliations known, per underground rules.
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1)Will do that once Jano answers Valiant back.

2)I will probably convince Valiant about that.

3)Im not a member, just a long time lurker, im aware of most of the underground rules + the non written Meso rules.
 
SkankHunt said:
Also please have tests correlate with batch numbers. I don’t wanna see labs for batch 100, then I place an order and get product from batch 99.
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We will do that, also before a new batch comes out we will have it tested, i have learnt from other sources previous mistakes and i dont want to convert this thread into a constant back and forth until i accept what obiously has to be done, so we will do that.
 
We want tits.
Just covering the cost of the test and shipping isn't enough for someone that risks themselves to further your reputation. Make it worth their while and someone will jump on it sooner. Customer blind testing holds value.

I paid 260 to test/ship two of trips products and received 400 in credit fyi.
 
combover said:
We want tits.
Just covering the cost of the test and shipping isn't enough for someone that risks themselves to further your reputation. Make it worth their while and someone will jump on it sooner. Customer blind testing holds value.

I paid 260 to test/ship two of trips products and received 400 in credit fyi.
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^^^^ @ValiantRep This is an excellent point. You WANT these tests as they add credibility. $400 sounds like a lot, limit it to one per customer. You’ll likely only have maybe 3-5 guys submit samples. It won’t break the bank. It will pay back ten fold.
 
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