I wonder if anybody has any theories about whether or not DNP has a greater or lesser impact on visceral fat as opposed to subcutaneous fat. Visceral fat is the fat that lines organs. It's allegedly harder to get rid of that sub-cut fat and has a worse impact on health. Do you think DNP targets one type of fat more than the other? Maybe Einstein wants to weight in on those, or Andy or Ramstein if they're still around.
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Visceral fat and DNP?
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BroScientist
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I have read most of the clinical studies on DNP out there. No one has studied this, so any answer you get would be anecdotal. Further, there's no reason to think that one type of fat would be targeted over any other, DNP doesn't directly affect fat metabolism. It increases your TDEE which indirectly causes you to lose fat.
G.I. Bro
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Based on what? This really makes zero sense. Fat liberation and oxidation is a calorie expenditure thing. Why one anabolic would target VAT or any other fat better makes no real sense. Tren burns fat more because it stimulates CNS/norepinephrine more and reduces cortisol moreso than most AAS. Plus it's very androgenic.
I'm open to theories on var though.
T&H
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G.I. Bro
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This study is pretty well known. Most DHT derived compounds like winstrol, var & primo will improve abdominal VAT compared to Test only. Same with tren. No shocker there just by the nature of the compounds (their ATTRIBUTES).
The study does nothing to shed any light on specifically what mechanism of action could exist to make var target VAT better than any other similar compound besides TE only though. That's the puzzling part. I see no reason why var would target VAT any better than winstrol or primo. Frankly my money would be on tren for VAT reduction (and really just overall body fat reduction) based on the reasons I stated previously (CNS/norepinephrine stimulation and more dampening of cortisol via Glucocorticoid receptor binding).
Var has obtained almost mythical status and some people attest to this effect on abdominal fat though.
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T&H
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I cant find anything specific to Var's MOA in regard to fat burning.
Eman
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There aren't any studies on this regarding DNP however, I can tell you I did a body scan throughout a DNP cycle once and visceral was always the biggest change. However, I didn't start out with a ton of visceral either.
Some body fat is more stubborn than other areas... DNP is not able to help burn certain areas though, it just burns off the energy. A beta agonist or something can help release more fatty acids from difficult areas, but it is never enough to really be noticeable.
Some body fat is more stubborn than other areas... DNP is not able to help burn certain areas though, it just burns off the energy. A beta agonist or something can help release more fatty acids from difficult areas, but it is never enough to really be noticeable.
Eman
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The first link is not a study, it's an advertisement mostly.
The second link doesn't really have anything to do with anavar.
Eman
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There is one study that I'm aware of that does indicate that anavar might be able to target abdominal fat, I don't think the MOA was actually determined in the study. I can't seem to find it though, it's been a few years since I read it... I even posted the link somewhere on meso, probably a thread similar to this one.
I used it during my first legit cut, and I did lose a lot of fat in my abs... Even though I think it has some merit, I can't point to it as being even a factor because it was just one of many compounds I used.
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Hell, even @Michael Scally MD did a study showing how potent of a fat burner Anadrol was. I wonder if he has anything on Anavar.
Eman
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I'm not aware of any study on anadrol and being a potential fat burner - it's not.
You have to keep in mind, a lot of these studies are performed on low testosterone individuals, the obese, etc. The studies are geared towards medical benefits, not really towards vanity.
Eman
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I don't see any reference to anadrol in the first study?
The second study appears to be referencing the first one, the title he has in that thread does reference anadrol so I suppose that is the compound he utilized.
To be clear, I didn't say anadrol isn't capable of producing significant body composition changes, it certainly is. I just said it's not a potent fat burner. There is a tremendously small number of fat burners that are actually potent, most provide very minimal increases to one's metabolic rate - DNP is pretty much the only exception that's well known and there are others similar to DNP that are so unavailable that they might as well be considered non-existent.
I can't tell enough about what actually occurred to determine how much actual fat was lost based on the two scans. It's clear there were significant body composition changes - but body scans can be difficult to interpret in this scenario.
For instance, I can take a gram of test, deca and 60mg of dbol and within a week or so a body scan would tell me I gained approximately 10lbs or more of lean mass and my body fat % will have gone down overall. But, what really happened? I didn't gain over 10lbs of new muscle tissue - I am holding a lot of water weight, which is considered lean mass in the eyes of a body scan. All of these markers are also skewed a bit when we're talking about someone who is obese, untrained, new to AAS, etc.
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I’m glad I’m not the only one who seemed to not find much assistance on the topic either. Thank you for your response, it is appreciated.
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