[Voodoo][TestProp][BloodSerum LC/MS][4-18-15][Labcorb]

[Notits]

Is it just me or are we overlooking a HUGE factor here regarding timing of his bloods?

* Notits is injecting DAILY so it's not like he has ANY lag time between injection versus blood draw (give or take a few hours). *

No matter what day of the week Notits had his blood drawn, he would ALWAYS BE doing it (in theory) within 24 hours of last injection AND he would always have a consistent, steady test prop level, no?

Exactly. This is why i ran ed.

 

[Notits]

Is it just me or are we overlooking a HUGE factor here regarding timing of his bloods?

* Notits is injecting DAILY so it's not like he has ANY lag time between injection versus blood draw (give or take a few hours). *

No matter what day of the week Notits had his blood drawn, he would ALWAYS BE doing it (in theory) within 24 hours of last injection AND he would always have a consistent, steady test prop level, no?

Also - i had the sample taken on a day that all my other bloods have shown a very consistent number on trt as to differentiate the difference in the prop level as added to the cyp (known) level.

 

[Notits]

@gr8whitetrukker are you a rep for Manwhore?

Maybe this is common knowledge. I haven't been around much lately.

Take it somewhere else, this is not what this thread is for.

 

[insertnamehere]

Take it somewhere else, this is not what this thread is for.

I'm not trying to derail your thread if thats what you're referring to. It was a question and a fair one at that.

 

[Notits]

I'm not trying to derail your thread if thats what you're referring to. It was a question and a fair one at that.

Send him a pm.

 

[insertnamehere]

I don't think this is a matter meant to keep private. But, I'll stop posting in your thread as to not be accused of derailing. He can choose to answer or not.

Thanks for doing the blood work. Its one of the best contributions we as members can make.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Off the top of my head, I would say at the end of a week you would have approximately 400mg in your system. That would confirm the 2xt value for the prop. Not good, but one of the worst we've seen.

Ya I agree. I figured 400mg would be what's left. And yes thats bad. Just trying to run all this thru my head. Prop confuses me

 

[Fouts]

Does deca not affect the TT number? Just to be clear so I'm not called a shill, I remember reading that it may actually yield a higher result when deca is present?

 

[Notits]

Does deca not affect the TT number? Just to be clear so I'm not called a shill, I remember reading that it may actually yield a higher result when deca is present?

I have heard this Fouts but know very little, certainly not enough to comment.

 

[Benny]

@Notits could we get a picture of one of your vials? Curious, if it came from voodoo or MW. I can tell by vial fouts prop came from MW. I know cuz I have some of each in my stash.

 

[Notits]

@Notits could we get a picture of one of your vials? Curious, if it came from voodoo or MW. I can tell by vial fouts prop came from MW. I know cuz I have some of each in my stash.

You got it brother, I'm headed for the barn, give me an hour.

 

[hotdog23]

I agree with @gr8whitetrukker that you can't measure prop values by weekly dose. Cuz day one's dose barely effects TT levels by day 7.....

But I still think these bloods tell us this prop is sub 50% purity to move his TT less than 1000

What's important is that we have a consistent testing protocol so results like these actually mean something

 

[Benny]

Regardless if there is a different protocol for prop or not, fouts results were much different then notits. I suspect this came from the voodoo order that sparked a lot of problems, where fouts order was from MW and a different brew.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

I agree with @gr8whitetrukker that you can't measure prop values by weekly dose. Cuz day one's dose barely effects TT levels by day 7.....

But I still think these bloods tell us this prop is sub 50% purity to move his TT less than 1000

What's important is that we have a consistent testing protocol so results like these actually mean something

We've been measuring by weekly dose for years so there's plenty of data here to compare it to. Let's say the half life is 3.5 days, 7 days after a 100mg shot you still have 25mg floating around. There is certainly a buildup after a few weeks.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

I agree with @gr8whitetrukker that you can't measure prop values by weekly dose. Cuz day one's dose barely effects TT levels by day 7.....

But I still think these bloods tell us this prop is sub 50% purity to move his TT less than 1000

What's important is that we have a consistent testing protocol so results like these actually mean something

Shill

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Shill

Why are you egging it on, dude?

@gr8whitetrukker are you a rep for Manwhore?

Maybe this is common knowledge. I haven't been around much lately.

I made a joke about this in another thread last week and GWT didn't say anything but now it's being brought up again and you still won't acknowledge it trucker? If the answer is no say no.. If it's yes than be transparent about it and say so.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Why are you egging it on, dude?



I made a joke about this in another thread last week and GWT didn't say anything but now it's being brought up again and you still won't acknowledge it trucker? If the answer is no say no.. If it's yes than be transparent about it and say so.

Obviously...johnny...NO

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

You cant buy trukker. Says what I mean and mean what I say.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/deca-affect-on-total-t-for-trt-blood-work.134364776/

Does deca not affect the TT number? Just to be clear so I'm not called a shill, I remember reading that it may actually yield a higher result when deca is present?

No

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

On the low end you have to add 774 for ALL 7 DAYS since prop is peaked at 24 hours

774x7=5418 tt on just prop

Then
5418/50 (daily prop dose) comes to about 15x

Does that make sense to any one?

Either way 774/50 yields the same results (daily)

Well you Injected 50mg daily. At the highest end of the scale 10x. It would seem 500tt would be right for some thing with a 24 hour peak. Doesnt any one see my point? You cant take a daily amount and divided it by all 7 days. Fundamentally incorrect

Idk. Im new to trying to figure prop bloods out. Depends what source you cite. I have just read half life of prop is 2-3 days. Other references say 3-4. Im just pointing out prop is in and out quick with a supposed peak of 24 hours. The math doesnt seem right to me done by bickel.

You're math doesn't calculate steady state levels properly.

If you inject 50 mg every 2 days, and prop has a half life of 2 days, then,

Day 1 50 mg
Day 3 50 mg + 25.0 mg = 75 mg
Day 5 50 mg + 37.5 mg = 87.5 mg
Day 7 50 mg + 43.5 mg = 93.8 mg
Day 9 50 mg + 46.9 mg = 96.9 mg
Day 11 50 mg + 48.4 mg = 98.4 mg
Day 13 50 mg + 49.2 mg = 99.2 mg
Day 15 50 mg + 49.6 mg = 99.6 mg

Steady state (min) = ~50 mg
Steady state (max) = ~100 mg

By the Day 11 (5 half lives), we're very close to achieving steady state levels. As you can see, at steady state there will always be ~50 mg of test prop remaining immediately prior to the next dose.