[Voodoo] [Test P] [blood work LC/MS] [2015-04] [labcorp]

[Fouts]

I'm famous

Infamous is more like it

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

I'm famous

Everything's a joke to you.. That is why you suck at life...

 

[MANWHORE]

LOL

I would still like to post
the occasional pussy joke if that's cool with everyone

 

[Fouts]

@johnnyBALLZ What would u run aromasin at if ur estrogen was that high? I was thinking 12.5 EOD but should I go ED for a while? Higher mg? Just curious cuz I don't want to crash it but I don't want to cry watching The Notebook either lol

 

[Fouts]

@johnnyBALLZ What would u run aromasin at if ur estrogen was that high? I was thinking 12.5 EOD but should I go ED for a while? Higher mg? Just curious cuz I don't want to crash it but I don't want to cry watching The Notebook either lol

Anybody got advice? Asked Johnny cuz he had the same reaction as I did
Holy shit! Lol

 

[Colt44]

There is still more to learn about peak times I think. With ALL compounds not just prop. I am going to try and get bloods again at 24 hours once I run out of tren. I'll give it a week to clear out since I'm running a pretty low dose and see what I come up with next time on the same prop. I need to for my AI anyways. Gotta get that estro in check!

This kinda thinking is exactly why the blood work protocol thread was started. Yes, it will be a fairly decent way to determine UGL dosage but I also think there is a lot to be learned from amassing gigs of data across a broad spectrum of human characteristics on supraphysiological doses.

I especially would like to see more 24,48,72 hour post pin on long estered test so we can see for ourselves when it actually peaks. Not just take someone's word for it, regardless of how qualified they may or may not be. I'm not one to just take someone's word for it. I wanna see the data.

Maybe a 12, 18, and 24 for TP. When I get back in the swing of things I am going to do both tests with long and short ester. Also going to test after a single dose of each separately.

I have no doubt in my mind that SS levels can be reached long before the protocol established but the duration was set to leave no room for discrepancy. At least timing wise. If we did it at 3.5 or 5 weeks, it would be dismissed because we didn't wait 6 weeks or some nonsensical bro science like that.

I think colt has the right approach when it comes to bloods. 10x is not always going to be the case. It just can't be cuz we are all human and no matter how we process drugs not all of us will See the same results.
When u add in NPP and Adrol Etc. then I think it could very well effect your numbers. I don't think anyone can definitively rule that out just yet.

My approach is that say out of 100, the 10x rule will probably hold true more often than not but it can always vary. I was hoping the protocol would prompt more to get blood work around the same time on documented doses so we can measure the variance and see how close to 10x the mean is.

Yes, it should be on test alone, as you and likely the UGL do not know if testosterone is present in the other raw compounds. I believe I understand your meaning but definitely the wrong choice of compounds to make your point. They've both been studied on humans for quite some time and I believe it's documented the effect they have on serum TT values.

The biggest worry of skewed numbers, I feel, is mislabeled compounds. With enough data though, those outliers can be identified fairly simply.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

@johnnyBALLZ What would u run aromasin at if ur estrogen was that high? I was thinking 12.5 EOD but should I go ED for a while? Higher mg? Just curious cuz I don't want to crash it but I don't want to cry watching The Notebook either lol

Anybody got advice? Asked Johnny cuz he had the same reaction as I did
Holy shit! Lol

You cried during The Notebook?? Me too!! Hahahah

From what I've read and in my experience it's really hard to "crash" e2 with aromasin. I'd definitely run it at 25mg ED for at least a week then 12.5 ED.. I run pharm aromasin at 12.5mg ED on just 300mg test/week..

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

As for the proof that 19-nor does cause an increase of prolactin I have none. But I have not seen any definitive proof that it doesn't, other than studies in sheep and rabbits and heifers.

Not only do you have no proof, but you have no reason to believe the link even exists other than you heard a rumor online. The reason you haven't seen proof is because the 19 nor/PRL increase only exists in the bro lore. It's an invented side effect.

 

[MANWHORE]

Hey don't make fun or Bro-Lore .. Bro

 

[Fouts]

You cried during The Notebook?? Me too!! Hahahah

From what I've read and in my experience it's really hard to "crash" e2 with aromasin. I'd definitely run it at 25mg ED for at least a week then 12.5 ED.. I run pharm aromasin at 12.5mg ED on just 300mg test/week..

Lmao! Idk what your talking about I've never seen that movie. Lol.
Right on! Thanks man I'll do exactly that then. I will probly be running an AI from now on pretty consistently. That was from lack of knowledge about my own BW. First time I've used privateMD. Now it's my favorite thing besides gear! Meso has taught me a lot.

Explains the lethargy and I'll just sell that prami to the bro-lore followers. That was for u @CensoredBoardsSuck I won't lie man it's definitely something Ive heard for a long time but never have seen any real proof. Hopefully we will see a lot more human studies one day. In all aspects of AAS. Until then I will question things and I'll be doing a lot more BW but I hope u don't take offense to me questioning things man. No matter what, this is still the Internet and I can't just go by what someone says cuz of their status or handle name. As long as u guys let me stick around I'm sure I will learn a lot more and won't need to question as much.

Anyways Wont let that estro problem happen again! I feel better already just by simply
Knowing what I need to fix.

Thanks for all the feedback guys I've got some pharmacom from Darius I'll be testing later on too. Until then I will play around with the BW times on this prop. See what I come up with and share it with the board.

 

[IronBrothers]

You cried during The Notebook?? Me too!! Hahahah

From what I've read and in my experience it's really hard to "crash" e2 with aromasin. I'd definitely run it at 25mg ED for at least a week then 12.5 ED.. I run pharm aromasin at 12.5mg ED on just 300mg test/week..

Damn bro, Aromasin on 300mg test? How are the sides compared to adex? Seems like adex fucks my body up.. no sex drive at all and cant keep it up.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Damn bro, Aromasin on 300mg test? How are the sides compared to adex? Seems like adex fucks my body up.. no sex drive at all and cant keep it up.

Aromasin is much more forgiving than adex in my experience. Keep in mind I'm prone to estro sides. You may not need an AI at that dose.

 

[Notits]

Way to much or its completely bunk, either way your e2 is off - not good for gains.

Damn bro, Aromasin on 300mg test? How are the sides compared to adex? Seems like adex fucks my body up.. no sex drive at all and cant keep it up.