T-Bagger
Elite
Oh man
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
W&M Analytical Liaison (U.S. Domestic)
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Well damn that’s a nice plot twist huh?
ummmmm..... thanks?
T&H
Well-known Member
My gosh guys, I simply copied and pasted what was in his very first post in this thread. Maybe I should have specified that but I figured the guy asking would have read that.
T&H
Well-known Member
It's funny how everyone jumps to conclusions so quick here. I definitely ain't wm, lolol.
T-Bagger
Elite
This is true - he has revealed his old handle. Though he could easily setup a new one.
I kinda figured that lol and then as I was driving to work I thought who gives a fuck anyway if the man wants a member handle as long as he’s not using it to bash other sources or has an agenda with it I really don’t give a shit ya know? I’m sure the man juices as well so maybe if he had one it’s to source shit and ask questions he wants answered before using a source
I would have appreciated it if you had replied to the 19 PMs I had waiting while you were....I mean while I was....I mean while we were logged in lol
I’m scarcely available lately and I apologize for that. Life is as busy as it’s ever been and I have trouble finding time to log in here when it is allowable (my job has the site blocked).
I can reply freely through protonmail unless I’m actively engaged in work; but I don’t want to put my protonmail address on here publicly. Other people have gotten it by word of mouth and some get angry when I ask for their meso handle to verify that I am doing work for a meso member.
I will reply to any PM just as soon as I can log in; but it may be a few days between logins.
I know I will not be able to log in here for at least the next 4 days.
I really appreciate y’all understanding and the patience you all have exhibited.
MisterSuperGod
Well-known Member
A fine cut and paste job. Anyone can see that (NOW) if they go back to post #1. Next time make it readily obvious if you're not going to quote the post directly. i got off the couch and put on my tinfoil hat for nothing!
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Mighty-mouse
Well-known Member
A fine cut and paste job. Anyone can see that (NOW) if they go back to post #1. Next time make it readily obvious if you're not going to quote the post directly. i got off the couch and put on my tinfoil hat for nothing!
This!! Lol
T&H
Well-known Member
Lol! It at least made for some good temporary meso dramaA fine cut and paste job. Anyone can see that (NOW) if they go back to post #1. Next time make it readily obvious if you're not going to quote the post directly. i got off the couch and put on my tinfoil hat for nothing!
T-Bagger
Elite
Drama queen!!!Lol! It at least made for some good temporary meso drama
I appreciate everyone being patient and giving me time to consider my position on the future of providing product testing.
I have given considerable thought to the entire thing; and the following is what I have decided:
1) From this point forward I will only accept raw material samples from sources for analysis. It has been said, countless times, that finished product testing from sources is considered worthless because of the possibility of exactly what has happened recently. Additionally, source raw material testing has been demanded by MESO many times.
2) Customer samples of finished products will only be done on entire packages of the product. This means that capsules, pills, creams, solutions, suspensions, suppositories, and vials will need to be sent in their original, unopened packages. I realize it will inconvenience some people; but honestly this whole thing is an inconvenience to me. The inconvenience will have to be now distributed to the community as a whole because I don’t have time for it. Replacement for items sent for testing will be between customer and source. My opinion is that maybe you should reconsider the purchase if the source is not willing to replace the package that is sent for testing.
3) I will maintain an archive of test results that can be reproduced for any MESO member upon request. This will be available to any MESO member; but will require some specificity. For example: You would need to request the report by sender, compound, and date. Vague requests asking me to do things like “Please show me all the results for Joe Blow’s tests” will not be entertained. You will have to know what you’re looking for if you want me to reproduce it.
4) Prices will increase by $25 across the board for this. I have had to come up, again, with money I don’t have in order to ensure my security from sources or others who may seek retaliation for dissemination of results that are not flattering. Let’s face it: this is an illegal drug trade; and I am in the position to cost a source some significant lost revenue. I’m not going to incur the risk for free. The maintenance of the result archive and reproduction of results at request are acts of labor on my behalf; and again, I’m not going to do it for free.
Basically, confidentiality no longer exists here.
There can be no confidentiality in harm reduction; and it has taken me this long to realize that my expectation of ethical behavior in the masses is naïve and unreasonable.
With that said, I have also seen evidence of the same values I live by in a source; so I know it is possible. I believe that these policy changes will help to further the effort of maintaining MESO as the place with the one thing we all came here for: physical AND financial harm reduction.
Where I come from, the scenario that happened last week is unheard of; so I was unprepared. All of the negative experiences I have encountered through this testing effort thus far have actually been intellectually rewarding in ways. I didn’t come here with a great deal of “street smarts”; but the few completely terrible people I have encountered have given me priceless lessons in interpersonal associations. So to them I say, “Thank you and I hope you contract Ebola”.
I have given considerable thought to the entire thing; and the following is what I have decided:
1) From this point forward I will only accept raw material samples from sources for analysis. It has been said, countless times, that finished product testing from sources is considered worthless because of the possibility of exactly what has happened recently. Additionally, source raw material testing has been demanded by MESO many times.
2) Customer samples of finished products will only be done on entire packages of the product. This means that capsules, pills, creams, solutions, suspensions, suppositories, and vials will need to be sent in their original, unopened packages. I realize it will inconvenience some people; but honestly this whole thing is an inconvenience to me. The inconvenience will have to be now distributed to the community as a whole because I don’t have time for it. Replacement for items sent for testing will be between customer and source. My opinion is that maybe you should reconsider the purchase if the source is not willing to replace the package that is sent for testing.
3) I will maintain an archive of test results that can be reproduced for any MESO member upon request. This will be available to any MESO member; but will require some specificity. For example: You would need to request the report by sender, compound, and date. Vague requests asking me to do things like “Please show me all the results for Joe Blow’s tests” will not be entertained. You will have to know what you’re looking for if you want me to reproduce it.
4) Prices will increase by $25 across the board for this. I have had to come up, again, with money I don’t have in order to ensure my security from sources or others who may seek retaliation for dissemination of results that are not flattering. Let’s face it: this is an illegal drug trade; and I am in the position to cost a source some significant lost revenue. I’m not going to incur the risk for free. The maintenance of the result archive and reproduction of results at request are acts of labor on my behalf; and again, I’m not going to do it for free.
Basically, confidentiality no longer exists here.
There can be no confidentiality in harm reduction; and it has taken me this long to realize that my expectation of ethical behavior in the masses is naïve and unreasonable.
With that said, I have also seen evidence of the same values I live by in a source; so I know it is possible. I believe that these policy changes will help to further the effort of maintaining MESO as the place with the one thing we all came here for: physical AND financial harm reduction.
Where I come from, the scenario that happened last week is unheard of; so I was unprepared. All of the negative experiences I have encountered through this testing effort thus far have actually been intellectually rewarding in ways. I didn’t come here with a great deal of “street smarts”; but the few completely terrible people I have encountered have given me priceless lessons in interpersonal associations. So to them I say, “Thank you and I hope you contract Ebola”.
T-Bagger
Elite
Hell yeah! I have some specifics I need to see released.
What you do doesn't go unappreciated. I'm just happy you decided to stick around and still offer your services....thank you again
Your services are invaluable to this community. Thank you for continuing to provide them.
T-Bagger
Elite
Well... since Sparta didn’t want to make things simple, I am requesting that any and all results of samples bearing the name Sparta that were tested by you during May - June 2019 be released to the public please.
T&H
Well-known Member
One of the things that came out in the SST Olympia labs thread that bluesec deleted was that sparta said those results were posted on his source page. I just looked on SST and he has some WM results on there, though I don't know exactly what all he sent to WM. So if W&M doesn't post them, can go check them out there.
You’ll catch on after a few of these.
The point is Sparta could have selected what to post and what not to. He could have left out any bad test results.
T&H
Well-known Member
Gotcha. Like I said in my post, I don't know how many and what all was sent but there are 6 wm reports posted. I don't remember if he sent more than 6 or not.
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