W&M Analytical Liaison (U.S. Domestic)

[Weights & Measures]

So you’re saying:

You have a DEA license to receive, handle and analyze anabolic steroids

No. Not for that.

I totally get the skepticism. I would be very skeptical too if I hadn't taken the trip.

It seems as if you think there is some angle being worked. The truth is, I needed some stuff tested; and I got someone to call in a favor for me. During our meeting, I struck up the conversation about MESO's needs; and he agreed.

Exact words were: "What the hell. I didn't get here by turning down money."

So I thought about it, asked someone who has been helpful to me and unbiased in opinion, and came here publicly with the idea.

 

[janoshik]

Wait....so you spoke to the “owner” of an accredited US lab that is driven around in a Bentley like Richie Rich

Does he prefer Grey Poupon Mustard?

Cmon now bro

What legit US Accredited lab is going to start taking scheduled substances on the regular to identify and quantify without any DEA LIC number

Lol

You physically sat down with the owner yet you mail the samples in?

What am I missing here

Some labs will identify a sample as unknown substance

But to quantify scheduled substances on the regular for $100 without any credentials or DEA LIC.....nah brah

And with no complete assay.....hmmmm

I was waiting far too long until somebody who is not gullible showed up.

But mate, who wouldn't, as a multimillionaire, risk his business and freedom for a hunting buddy that he knows for a week?

 

[rpbb]

Ok. Anyone else think that that price is kinda high. Analyzer was 60 a sample and I think each additional one after a certain amount was even less and that was mailed to Europe. I understand if you’re the only show in town you can kinda dictate your own prices but I have well over 5 samples that I could send for testing. For 700$ you could buy enough test raws for over 3000mls. I’m not trying to piss on testing but that just seems way to fucking high. I don’t want to hear about the whole knowing what’s going into your body. I get that but let’s be real. How many 100s of pins have we all done going on the assumption that what we were doing was G2G.

Absolutely not high at all, it's an illegal operation in the us, and the price is set accordingly. If you think you can set it up, take the risk, and do it cheaper, have at it

 

[XmadXscientist]

very anal-retentive if you ask me)

There’s reasons for being “anal retentive” when it comes to lab analysis and this comment hints at ignorance of the process.

The owner is literally the wealthiest person I have ever sat around and talked with. He has a Bentley AND a driver for it. Just ridiculous really.
He is doing it for me as a favor to a family member.

People in such a position do not take on risk that could shut their lives down for 10-50,000$ extra dollars a year.

Yes I do have a DEA license.

What is it for?


Something is off here and not everything is adding up, everyone should be practical and realistic in their hunt the second coming of the golden goose. Besides it’s not like a domestic brewer just got busted or anything andthis would be a great way to nab some of their customers.

 

[Weights & Measures]

There’s reasons for being “anal retentive” when it comes to lab analysis and this comment hints at ignorance of the process.

If you are referring to my ignorance of the process, you are correct. I have already stated that I know very little about analytical chemistry.

People in such a position do not take on risk that could shut their lives down for 10-50,000$ extra dollars a year.

I would assume that he can do whatever he wants for whomever he wants to do it for. Or is there something I am unaware of about wealth that places a person on a higher moral plane than everyone else?

What is it for?

None of your business.

 

[janoshik]

People in such a position do not take on risk that could shut their lives down for 10-50,000$ extra dollars a year.

You are wildly overestimating.

Analyzer didn't make that and he had literally zero expenses because he was using university equip and materials. Also, he didn't have to pay anybody to do the actual work.

How much do analytical chemists charge per hour in the US?
How much do the standards and method development cost?

Just to give you an idea how much USP HGH standard necessary for proper testing cost:



So this FDA approved lab would be running at a loss for quite some time. I ran almost two years at a loss.


This makes it even more fun, doesn't it?


Before people shit on me for posting, I wonder who else could give input on costs in this business other than me?

 

[Weights & Measures]

I was waiting far too long until somebody who is not gullible showed up.

But mate, who wouldn't, as a multimillionaire, risk his business and freedom for a hunting buddy that he knows for a week?

I was informed that I would be viewed as a source when I announced this idea; and I decided to forfeit my member handle to do so.
With that forfeiture, I gave up my right to post my opinion in other threads; particularly threads that are a conflict of my own interest.

Are you not a source?

Would it be okay if I come over into your thread and circle it in the vulturous manner in which you are circling this one?

 

[rpbb]

I was informed that I would be viewed as a source when I announced this idea; and I decided to forfeit my member handle to do so.
With that forfeiture, I gave up my right to post my opinion in other threads; particularly threads that are a conflict of my own interest.

Are you not a source?

Would it be okay if I come over into your thread and circle it in the vulturous manner in which you are circling this one?

Actually, I think he's been sticking up for you

 

[janoshik]

I was informed that I would be viewed as a source when I announced this idea; and I decided to forfeit my member handle to do so.
With that forfeiture, I gave up my right to post my opinion in other threads; particularly threads that are a conflict of my own interest.

Are you not a source?

Would it be okay if I come over into your thread and circle it in the vulturous manner in which you are circling this one?

Sure, whole lot of people already do. I won't mind.

I stated multiple times that if anybody has something worth saying, they should do it, regardless of their status.

 

[Weights & Measures]

Actually, I think he's been sticking up for you

I read it differently.

 

[Weights & Measures]

Sure, whole lot of people already do. I won't mind.

I stated multiple times that if anybody has something worth saying, they should do it, regardless of their status.

Thank you.

 

[Heavy Iron]

This seems very odd.

 

[rpbb]

This seems very odd.

Doesn't really matter, just have to wait and see how it all plays out

 

[Thegreek]

Absolutely not high at all, it's an illegal operation in the us, and the price is set accordingly. If you think you can set it up, take the risk, and do it cheaper, have at it

Obviously I can’t so that’s a dumb thing to say. Are you going to spend 145$ a test? My point was and I even said this is he’s the only show so yeah he can dictate those prices but who’s going to pay them. The only ones I can think of are ugls and why would they pay for it when they supposedly get testing done by the provider. I could see myself doing one here or there if I felt something was off but at the same time for 145$ I could just replace it. Besides, the whole thing seems off anyway. If it’s not great at least there is an option for someone to call out a source. I did it with omega when there was a shit storm of underdosed stories going around. To be honest, If he’s real, I think the only way I would use him is to help someone here. For example if he comes out to be legit I think a good idea would be if a bunch of us got together and each sent a different raw sample in from someone. This way each of us would only be out the 145 but we could get multiple results back.

 

[rpbb]

Obviously I can’t so that’s a dumb thing to say. Are you going to spend 145$ a test? My point was and I even said this is he’s the only show so yeah he can dictate those prices but who’s going to pay them. The only ones I can think of are ugls and why would they pay for it when they supposedly get testing done by the provider. I could see myself doing one here or there if I felt something was off but at the same time for 145$ I could just replace it. Besides, the whole thing seems off anyway. If it’s not great at least there is an option for someone to call out a source. I did it with omega when there was a shit storm of underdosed stories going around. To be honest, If he’s real, I think the only way I would use him is to help someone here. For example if he comes out to be legit I think a good idea would be if a bunch of us got together and each sent a different raw sample in from someone. This way each of us would only be out the 145 but we could get multiple results back.

The test results I rely on are the ones at anaboliclab.com. that's why I donate. And considering most guys here won't donate 10 bucks to that, I doubt he'll get a lot of individuals paying anything for testing. Where he should make out ok is testing for the sources here. In which case, I think it's more than a fair price. Btw, the provider uses jano for his testing, and Turkish pharm is setting up his own testing, they are both cheaper, but not domestic

 

[Weights & Measures]

Obviously I can’t so that’s a dumb thing to say. Are you going to spend 145$ a test? My point was and I even said this is he’s the only show so yeah he can dictate those prices but who’s going to pay them. The only ones I can think of are ugls and why would they pay for it when they supposedly get testing done by the provider. I could see myself doing one here or there if I felt something was off but at the same time for 145$ I could just replace it. Besides, the whole thing seems off anyway. If it’s not great at least there is an option for someone to call out a source. I did it with omega when there was a shit storm of underdosed stories going around. To be honest, If he’s real, I think the only way I would use him is to help someone here. For example if he comes out to be legit I think a good idea would be if a bunch of us got together and each sent a different raw sample in from someone. This way each of us would only be out the 145 but we could get multiple results back.

I just want to make it clear that it is completely okay with me if no one at all uses this service.

It isn’t like I am promoting a brand or trying to make a living or even supplemental income from this. I pay my bills just fine with my career.

This just something that I wanted to make available.
If it is helpful to someone the way it was helpful to me, great; I’m glad I could help.

But as for me trying to advertise, market, or otherwise increase the use of this service; it isn’t going to happen.

I do intend to refute any accusations of lying though. I have so little to gain from this that lying or falsely advertising to increase business here would be counterproductive. Also, the accusations just irritate me in general.

I understand the skepticism though. I am beginning to wish I had never brought it up. It is already turning into something much less than enjoyable.

 

[ProfessorX]

I just want to make it clear that it is completely okay with me if no one at all uses this service.

It isn’t like I am promoting a brand or trying to make a living or even supplemental income from this. I pay my bills just fine with my career.

This just something that I wanted to make available.
If it is helpful to someone the way it was helpful to me, great; I’m glad I could help.

But as for me trying to advertise, market, or otherwise increase the use of this service; it isn’t going to happen.

I do intend to refute any accusations of lying though. I have so little to gain from this that lying or falsely advertising to increase business here would be counterproductive. Also, the accusations just irritate me in general.

I understand the skepticism though. I am beginning to wish I had never brought it up. It is already turning into something much less than enjoyable.

How bout just send a sample(s) of a finished oil, formulated protein (HGH), finished product (tablet) for qualitative/ quantitative analysis and just post up those results

The test result posted on the first page is just a simple (GC/MS) indentifying substance test (or am I not seeing other test results posted)

Thx

Maybe someone can donate a sample along with a control sample to test the lab

 

[Thegreek]

If you’re willing to take one for the team so will I. I’ll send samples of raws to be tested. Assuming the members here would trust me. You have it tested and Put up the results and I’ll confirm. We can even bring someone else into as a way to somehow verify what I did. Id be willing to pay for one but think 3 would be good for a base line. No blends.

 

[ProfessorX]

I have some potential samples...

Plus I have prescribed Test, Anavar, HGH, Clomid etc for control samples

 

[movingiron88]

Obviously I can’t so that’s a dumb thing to say. Are you going to spend 145$ a test? My point was and I even said this is he’s the only show so yeah he can dictate those prices but who’s going to pay them. The only ones I can think of are ugls and why would they pay for it when they supposedly get testing done by the provider. I could see myself doing one here or
I would spend $145 to test what I intended on running. I have paid good money in the past to. Its peace of mind to me. I only run a few compounds and at most twice a year. So to me personally it's worth it. But, I wouldn't until a blind test was done. Just as the members propose. A sample sent anonymously and tested. It is far to easy to come on here post a fake sample report and rip someone off. I'm not saying you are but i hope you understand you have no track record here. I may have the money to test but I dont have the money to gamble.

I hope this pans out for you because I would use this service in the future.