Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

[johnnyBALLZ]

What has changed over the past 45 minutes?

YESTERDAY KARL SAID BEST RECEIVED 2000 TABS AS COMPENSATION TODAY HE IS SAYING 10,000 TABS!! hear me now?! haha, geez..

Karl is a pathological liar, I asked you when you're going to acknowledge that..

Alright, I really gotta go now..

 

[Western-Biotech]

JB - I said 2000 halo (and if somewhere I said 2000 tabs I referred to the halo), it's a fact he got close to 10000 tabs, I will ask Mands to see this

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Those agreements are what binds them and should determine who broke them and is at fault.

There was no agreement. Best wants his money back and Karl refuses to give it. The proof is Karl's admission just now that he wanted an arbitrator to intervene.

I showed Mands PMs, we concluded on GH, it takes time as u know, I offered great compensation, I called for arbitrary, posted it, nothing here justify crusade of lies, accusing me in snitching od addys with zero proves while making no sense ! and above all threatening on my team.
Again - if I'm dangerous to best then sending him money is much more problematic then money, again nonsense lies

Karl, you claim to have millions of dollars to build a GH plant, but you can't give Best a measly $6,000. He wants a refund. Give it to him right now and end this blabla.

 

[muscle96ss]

True... However both sides are saying that best is owed money, the negotiation is how the compensation should be paid. If you were being held out on for product or money for 3 months in any case, would you not want a refund regardless?

It depends, if when I agreed to accept the GH and extra GH I was told that it could take that long; then I would blame myself for accepting the agreement. If I wasn't told that; then yes I would want my money back and he should get his money back. I agree with you guys on this subject unless Karl can product an agreement that shows that Best understood and agreed to the terms. If Karl can produce this, then he is off the hook. RIght now, none of us know what that agreement was.

 

[muscle96ss]

There was no agreement. Best wants his money back and Karl refuses to give it. The proof is Karl's admission just now that he wanted an arbitrator to intervene.





Karl, you claim to have millions of dollars to build a GH plant, but you can't give Best a measly $6,000. He wants a refund. Give it to him right now and end this blabla.

If there is no agreement then you are correct, he should get his money back. How do you know that there was no agreement? Have you asked Karl for it? I am not saying that there was a definitive one, but you are just speculating.

 

[Marcus]

It depends, if when I agreed to accept the GH and extra GH I was told that it could take that long; then I would blame myself for accepting the agreement. If I wasn't told that; then yes I would want my money back and he should get his money back. I agree with you guys on this subject unless Karl can product an agreement that shows that Best understood and agreed to the terms. If Karl can produce this, then he is off the hook. RIght now, none of us know what that agreement was.

There was no agreement for GH though, it was for injectables. Are you talking about for the compensation for not delivering the product he originally paid for? Because that is the original agreement

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

How do you know that there was no agreement? Have you asked Karl for it?

Because Karl just said he wanted arbitration to settle the dispute. Nobody goes to arbitration once they've reached an agreement, that wouldn't make sense.

 

[Dr JIM]

How can ANYONE look at what happened with Best and say he was not scammed, unless Karl doles out 6K!

I believe it's telling how K changes his story to best fit those of the audience or Karl's delusions of just compensation.

I can promise many people have been treated in this manner by Karl but chose not to say anything (or were otherwise banned, sanctioned or reprimanded) rather than have to deal with his irrational thought processes.

Damn Karl you are NUTS, and desperately need to see a psychiatrist.

 

[Western-Biotech]

The facts again - The agreement was on GH, best was interested period. I asked for time to deliver, I'm more then aware to the delay, we concluded I get him GH, it's a fact, I may show to Mands, he's actually very aware to it. I said I'll deliver much higher value then paid.
At one point best simply trashed me, I asked for arbitration, and offered multiple solutions, till this point if a refund would be the decision of arbitrary I would have to sell a kidney to send it. best ignored all of my offers, and simply made a crusade of lies, the damage he's done with sheer lies is much worst then some money I would owe him, and he would get in double the value of products, he keeps lying and say he can't accept deliveries, while he can accept money, which is actually more dangerous and leaves more traces, he threat explicitly to hurt ppl who's nothing bad to him

 

[Western-Biotech]

I'm sorry - I follow now records - the number 10000 is not accurate. We aim to ship packs below 1000 gr to the UK, usually the net content is about 800gr, based on this number I calculated the estimated 10000 tabs. I see now that he got among tabs some 50mg (active material) bigger tabs among them proviron, aromadex, and clomi which weight more then double then the 10mg tabs, so the number is lower, anyhow the estimated value of 2.5-3k usd is still valid

 

[Flounder]

I think it is important to realize Karl's sense of time is not normal, so if there was any sort of agreement between him and Best I'm sure that agreed upon timeframe has long since passed. I know I have been hearing Karl say new testing coming in 2-3 weeks, but he's been saying that for 2 months now. No wonder Best is sick of waiting 3 months for product that is not even the product he ordered. By Karl's timeframe, Best should receive his product in about 1-2 years. Karl just give the man a refund and move on with this shit, agreement or not. You never should have accepted his funds anyways since you didn't have the right product for him. Now you want to cry because you feel you are being mistreated, but I'll bet you weren't crying when that 6g's landed in your account. Just give the man his $ back and move on.

 

[Western-Biotech]

I still see that the recieved payments are about 5k, he may send me now the records he hold, some payments are probably not received.

All of this really doesn't matter much, I can't accept threats on my team, and accusations in open forums that I'm LE, and repeated lies, after I ask for arbitration, and offer very generous fair solutions

 

[Marcus]

I still see that the recieved payments are about 5k, he may send me now the records he hold, some payments are probably not received.

All of this really doesn't matter much, I can't accept threats on my team, and accusations in open forums that I'm LE, and repeated lies, after I ask for arbitration, and offer very generous fair solutions

So now it appears it's not about anything agreed not money nor GH, it's about principal and integrity? Your story changes quite often, Karl

 

[Western-Biotech]

In case u don't understand best didn't came here to say he wants a refund ..... he could get this in an arbitration I offered. He came here to spread lies that I snitch on my distributors incl' posts on Axio labs and some bullshit that I don't know what has to do with me, he said that I'm LE, and some more nonsense. He came to hurt no matter the price and the truth and to make as much damage as possible. So he did carelessly while he threatened on my team in the face, ppl with families.

Our agreement was on GH, It did take time, I don't accept all of my customers to be patient like Muscles or Mands, but what he did is outregious. I showed Mands all PMs.

 

[Western-Biotech]

I do apologize, I have to leave, though it's very important for me to be present.

I ask u again to raise any issue regarding lab tests we will do in 10-14 days.

You may check up more reports as for today on serum tests on the GH - http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...h-new-pharma-quality-gh-sciroxx-group-23.html

 

[ebkallday]

You keep bringing Mands into this like he would vouch for you. Surely he has seen some evidence and all but Karl, you use his name like a magic word. Now stop it. Mands is one of our best Vets. Please quit attaching his name and involving him like he will save you. You are a slick business man who has been around for a LONG time. You have issues with your people but blame the customer. It ain't about this one or two issues, its about your M.O. when someone has an issue with your service and product. I strongly advise anyone NOT to do business with you. You have soured and should retire with the fortune you have already made.

Bit.

 

[Western-Biotech]

I refer to Mands as he offered to take a look at the PMs, and he gave his honest opinion

 

[mands]

I am spending some time with my family tonight. I will address some of the PM's in depth later if needed. Like I said earlier Best is not lying and Karl is not lying.

On another note I'm up to 272lbs. Bulking season!

mands

 

[Dr JIM]

Now CBS of course it makes sense if you believe Karl walks on water bc he supplies (directly or indirectly) your monthly GH and AAS needs.

That in addition to the advertisement fees to "founding members" of forums like PM.

MH revealed his allegiance long ago and he walks alongside K bc that's where the money is, pure and simple.

And there are none who have a greater vested interest in the
outcome of this thread (and Ks GH) than MH, excluding K himself!

No doubt if MH ever had ANY sense of objective reasoning, it was lost on his first post which states "let me say I do not support Karl"! Yet in this same post declares; "I just got my results back from my serum test on Karl's GH ..... 26.8!"

(How prophetic neither K nor MH posted the actual lab tests on Meso, but they ARE available on PM, care to explain why that is, NOT!)

What's even more telling is, "I just report what I see and do my best to protect the honest and expose the dishonest" LMAO!

Why is it then MH not once have you been overtly critical of K throughout this ENTIRE thread.

Please explain why you have never "exposed" Ks fabrications that ring so loud as to proclaim, liar?

Why were you able to expose a Chinese GH scam that K had bought into, but have been unable to repeat that same miraculous feat this time around?

Oh I know why, bc K pays your rent.

 

[Marcus]

I am spending some time with my family tonight. I will address some of the PM's in depth later if needed. Like I said earlier Best is not lying and Karl is not lying.

On another note I'm up to 272lbs. Bulking season!

mands

Damnnnnn yes sir yes sir... That's some weight