What 15 weeks of test and tren did to me

I am going to get both sources tested just to confirm. Quick question though. I suspect my e2 may be out of range, despite being on a low dose of test. Currently waiting for blood results to come back. Would the e2 bloat make a huge difference into how lean I look/feel do you think? As for side effects, I am getting insomnia pretty bad. Just no night sweats or bad aggression.
Did you order an estroidal sensitive blood test?
Cuz if u did not your e2 number will be 150 plus and it will be a false high reading because of the tren.
Edit...saw u already answered.
But i cant see why your e2 is so high with so little test.
Are you pregnant?
 
I think you should get it tested.
Im on 500 tren a and 250 test in week 5.
Like you i only get insomnia and indigestion. All the plus things you mention are going on with me but i have a very physical job and its tough getting enough cals right now so my run has become more of a recomp.
In My avi Im probably close to 20% bf..at 206ish.
I did cut to 183 prior to adding the tren in and as of yesterday Im back to 196 at probably 12 or 13%.
I would check the tren if you can cuz it may be that it 1/2 to 1/3 under dosed.
How would I go about getting a compound like tren tested in terms
of both purity and dosage? Also, how long does the whole process normally take?
 
I think people use much more tren than what they need. If I ever run it again I will probably be doing about the same dose as you. 50mg EOD
Yea I ran 700 mg and that was over kill...I think. I only got to 6 weeks. I think running it half that but double time is better.

I think that with all steroids. I ran a NPP 700, 700 then and 700 test, And gained don't get me wrong. But I think It's better to run half those doses for double the length.
 
Yea I ran 700 mg and that was over kill...I think. I only got to 6 weeks. I think running it half that but double time is better.

I think that with all steroids. I ran a NPP 700, 700 then and 700 test, And gained don't get me wrong. But I think It's better to run half those doses for double the length.

I'm a firm believer that you should run as little as possible, but I'm going to run an experiment this winter to see what a gram of test for 12 weeks does.

No orals, no secondary compounds, just a shit ton of test.
 
I'm a firm believer that you should run as little as possible, but I'm going to run an experiment this winter to see what a gram of test for 12 weeks does.

No orals, no secondary compounds, just a shit ton of test.

Having done it myself, i can honestly say, i wasn't impressed and did not feel super, man. ;)

That was a long time ago, though.
Now that i'm more conscious about my health, bp, etc., i'm sticking with low dose everything, from here on out.

Best of luck with it.
Hopefully you run a log, i'd like to know what you think once you hit the 1g mark.
 
Having done it myself, i can honestly say, i wasn't impressed and did not feel super, man. ;)

That was a long time ago, though.
Now that i'm more conscious about my health, bp, etc., i'm sticking with low dose everything, from here on out.

Best of luck with it.
Hopefully you run a log, i'd like to know what you think once you hit the 1g mark.

I've heard conflicting experiences. Some say anything over 750mg is a waste, some say they feel like they could throw a car.

If I do it I'll try to keep a log. I'm also playing around with the idea of running 200 test, 400 tren and 400 mast and eating until I want to puke. Somewhere around 1000-1200 calories above maintenance. I'm thinking that the lean gains would be retarded.
 
I've heard conflicting experiences. Some say anything over 750mg is a waste, some say they feel like they could throw a car.

If I do it I'll try to keep a log. I'm also playing around with the idea of running 200 test, 400 tren and 400 mast and eating until I want to puke. Somewhere around 1000-1200 calories above maintenance. I'm thinking that the lean gains would be retarded.
This, I would do this. You already know the lean gains will be superior to 1g test and the bloat will be far less.
 
This, I would do this. You already know the lean gains will be superior to 1g test and the bloat will be far less.

Yeah, I'm kind of trending toward the TTM cycle. I prefer a good classic physique look over ridiculous mass.

That said, I'm about 15 pounds above the competition cutoff for 6'.
 
I've heard conflicting experiences. Some say anything over 750mg is a waste, some say they feel like they could throw a car.

If I do it I'll try to keep a log. I'm also playing around with the idea of running 200 test, 400 tren and 400 mast and eating until I want to puke. Somewhere around 1000-1200 calories above maintenance. I'm thinking that the lean gains would be retarded.

Yes, I think this is a really well-spent and focused gram.

I'm stocking up on mast on my upcoming trip to do something similar - it's just annoying that all mast is so low dose, I've only found 100mg/ml.
 
I'm a firm believer that you should run as little as possible, but I'm going to run an experiment this winter to see what a gram of test for 12 weeks does.

No orals, no secondary compounds, just a shit ton of test.
lol....
 
Yea I ran 700 mg and that was over kill...I think. I only got to 6 weeks. I think running it half that but double time is better.

I think that with all steroids. I ran a NPP 700, 700 then and 700 test, And gained don't get me wrong. But I think It's better to run half those doses for double the length.
I ran a 20 week cycle last year I thought long cycles might be the answer but It actually wasn't. After talking to a few vets I now think more frequent shorter cycles are better.
If I ran another long blast like that I would rather keep switching compounds and mix shit up more. I think you do reach a point of diminishing returns running the same 2 or 3 compounds for months on end.
 
I've heard conflicting experiences. Some say anything over 750mg is a waste, some say they feel like they could throw a car.

If I do it I'll try to keep a log. I'm also playing around with the idea of running 200 test, 400 tren and 400 mast and eating until I want to puke. Somewhere around 1000-1200 calories above maintenance. I'm thinking that the lean gains would be retarded.
I felt like I could throw a car on 1250 of test. Nothing else. I also wanted to knock out every fuk face who pissed me off. But BP went up and heart rate. Which leads me to my present predicament.
 
I felt like I could throw a car on 1250 of test. Nothing else. I also wanted to knock out every fuk face who pissed me off. But BP went up and heart rate. Which leads me to my present predicament.

I don't care what anyone says more test=more strength and size but dosage doesnt stay linear to side effects . after about 1.2g sides start coming a lot faster than the added benefits , for me at least . 1.5g I feel amazing , stronger than I ever been on any other combination of androgens including tren in the mix , BUT acne and bp are terrible after about 5 weeks . I don't know how dudes get up to 2g+ ew without stroking the hell out !!
 
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I don't care what anyone says more test=more strength and size but dosage doesnt stay linear to side effects . after about 1.2g sides start coming a lot faster than the added benefits , for me at least . 1.5g I feel amazing , stronger than I ever been on any other combination of androgens including tren in the mix , BUT acne and bp are terrible after about 5 weeks . I don't know how dudes get up to 2g+ ew without stroking the hell out !!
Looking jakd up bro!
 
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