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Who is our biggest, most shredded member at Meso?

Nitrust said:
I mean I'm big and lean, but I have many more cycles to go before I reach freak status. For the sake of the thread, I'll post a few of myself.





I'm banking on tren and mast helping me achieve a bigger thicker leaner body.

Next fall I am going to do npp/dbol/ and test, along with 5-6k clean calories should bulk me up nice
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Keep us updated on the cycle
 
Been a long while since I posted in here but I figure I'll post a little progress.

Been cruising for a while and am currently about 237-240lbs. Hard to take good pics in my bathroom. Also anyone have any advice about coming off a cruise and getting on some hcg to try and have a kid? I have one already but he was conceived before I ever rode the bike.
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pokeemonn said:
Been a long while since I posted in here but I figure I'll post a little progress.

Been cruising for a while and am currently about 237-240lbs. Hard to take good pics in my bathroom. Also anyone have any advice about coming off a cruise and getting on some hcg to try and have a kid? I have one already but he was conceived before I ever rode the bike.
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Thats it , Mind over Matter ! Good job ~Ogh
 
Sorry I post here too often, guys. Just have a hard time properly judging my own body. Anyways.

Just wanted some insight. Here's my current physique:

6'0
212lb (ish)

(Relaxed)


(Flexed)


I'm at the tail end of my low test/high tren bulk. Got about 3 more weeks left. Do I look like I'm finally at a point where a solid cut would do me justice (and not just make me look DYEL)? Just want some honest opinions. Or would it be more beneficial to be patient, recomp for my next cycle, and cut later down the road?
 
foxace36 said:
Sorry I post here too often, guys. Just have a hard time properly judging my own body. Anyways.

Just wanted some insight. Here's my current physique:

6'0
212lb (ish)

(Relaxed)


(Flexed)


I'm at the tail end of my low test/high tren bulk. Got about 3 more weeks left. Do I look like I'm finally at a point where a solid cut would do me justice (and not just make me look DYEL)? Just want some honest opinions. Or would it be more beneficial to be patient, recomp for my next cycle, and cut later down the road?
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You need to bulk for a WHILE.

Growing actual muscle is the hardest thing to do and also the slowest process.
 
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foxace36 said:
Sorry I post here too often, guys. Just have a hard time properly judging my own body. Anyways.

Just wanted some insight. Here's my current physique:

6'0
212lb (ish)

(Relaxed)


(Flexed)


I'm at the tail end of my low test/high tren bulk. Got about 3 more weeks left. Do I look like I'm finally at a point where a solid cut would do me justice (and not just make me look DYEL)? Just want some honest opinions. Or would it be more beneficial to be patient, recomp for my next cycle, and cut later down the road?
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Honestly, you look like you've been cutting or recomping in your pics. You appear to be in decent shape from a BF%. Definitely not on the tail end of a bulk. High tren, low test on a bulk is not a great combo anyway unless you're running some other stuff in there with it to maximize weight gain. High test and low tren would better serve you but I'd probably go high test with a different anabolic (EQ, Deca, Mast) then switch to tren towards the end of the bulk to help transition to a cut or recomp. Tren is great but it's just not a good true bulking substance most of the time as it kills appetite and peels water off. Plus it can make it harder to catch your breath when you're already 10-20+ pounds heavier than you are normally (mostly water and glycogen weight).

Bulking requires a surplus and you will add some fat unless you're running GH (OK if you're running insulin) or fat burners (not good during a bulk). You don't appear to be holding water (thanks to the tren) or much fat which tells me you haven't really been in a surplus. I'm not advocating getting sloppy fat and gorging on shit food but you obviously haven't been pushing it on the diet side based on the pics.

If you want to add size you MUST commit to losing some condition while doing so (look at the pro's off season pics). It takes time and being a little uncomfortable (full all the time) to stay in a legit surplus to add real muscle size as @gr8whitetrukker was referring too. Your training must also match your current goal so you're maximizing tissue break down and capitalizing on the added nutrition for recovery.
 
gr8whitetrukker said:
You need to bulk for a WHILE.

Growing actual muscle is the hardest thing to do and also the slowest process.
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fodsod said:
Honestly, you look like you've been cutting or recomping in your pics. You appear to be in decent shape from a BF%. Definitely not on the tail end of a bulk. High tren, low test on a bulk is not a great combo anyway unless you're running some other stuff in there with it to maximize weight gain. High test and low tren would better serve you but I'd probably go high test with a different anabolic (EQ, Deca, Mast) then switch to tren towards the end of the bulk to help transition to a cut or recomp. Tren is great but it's just not a good true bulking substance most of the time as it kills appetite and peels water off. Plus it can make it harder to catch your breath when you're already 10-20+ pounds heavier than you are normally (mostly water and glycogen weight).

Bulking requires a surplus and you will add some fat unless you're running GH (OK if you're running insulin) or fat burners (not good during a bulk). You don't appear to be holding water (thanks to the tren) or much fat which tells me you haven't really been in a surplus. I'm not advocating getting sloppy fat and gorging on shit food but you obviously haven't been pushing it on the diet side based on the pics.

If you want to add size you MUST commit to losing some condition while doing so (look at the pro's off season pics). It takes time and being a little uncomfortable (full all the time) to stay in a legit surplus to add real muscle size as @gr8whitetrukker was referring too. Your training must also match your current goal so you're maximizing tissue break down and capitalizing on the added nutrition for recovery.
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@foxace36 -Great advice here from guys that know a thing or two....:rolleyes:
 
fodsod said:
Honestly, you look like you've been cutting or recomping in your pics. You appear to be in decent shape from a BF%. Definitely not on the tail end of a bulk. High tren, low test on a bulk is not a great combo anyway unless you're running some other stuff in there with it to maximize weight gain. High test and low tren would better serve you but I'd probably go high test with a different anabolic (EQ, Deca, Mast) then switch to tren towards the end of the bulk to help transition to a cut or recomp. Tren is great but it's just not a good true bulking substance most of the time as it kills appetite and peels water off. Plus it can make it harder to catch your breath when you're already 10-20+ pounds heavier than you are normally (mostly water and glycogen weight).

Bulking requires a surplus and you will add some fat unless you're running GH (OK if you're running insulin) or fat burners (not good during a bulk). You don't appear to be holding water (thanks to the tren) or much fat which tells me you haven't really been in a surplus. I'm not advocating getting sloppy fat and gorging on shit food but you obviously haven't been pushing it on the diet side based on the pics.

If you want to add size you MUST commit to losing some condition while doing so (look at the pro's off season pics). It takes time and being a little uncomfortable (full all the time) to stay in a legit surplus to add real muscle size as @gr8whitetrukker was referring too. Your training must also match your current goal so you're maximizing tissue break down and capitalizing on the added nutrition for recovery.
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This^^^. He knows what hes talking about. Follow him
Dont make me...:mad:
foxace36 said:
Sorry I post here too often, guys. Just have a hard time properly judging my own body. Anyways.

Just wanted some insight. Here's my current physique:

6'0
212lb (ish)

(Relaxed)


(Flexed)


I'm at the tail end of my low test/high tren bulk. Got about 3 more weeks left. Do I look like I'm finally at a point where a solid cut would do me justice (and not just make me look DYEL)? Just want some honest opinions. Or would it be more beneficial to be patient, recomp for my next cycle, and cut later down the road?
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fodsod said:
Honestly, you look like you've been cutting or recomping in your pics. You appear to be in decent shape from a BF%. Definitely not on the tail end of a bulk. High tren, low test on a bulk is not a great combo anyway unless you're running some other stuff in there with it to maximize weight gain. High test and low tren would better serve you but I'd probably go high test with a different anabolic (EQ, Deca, Mast) then switch to tren towards the end of the bulk to help transition to a cut or recomp. Tren is great but it's just not a good true bulking substance most of the time as it kills appetite and peels water off. Plus it can make it harder to catch your breath when you're already 10-20+ pounds heavier than you are normally (mostly water and glycogen weight).

Bulking requires a surplus and you will add some fat unless you're running GH (OK if you're running insulin) or fat burners (not good during a bulk). You don't appear to be holding water (thanks to the tren) or much fat which tells me you haven't really been in a surplus. I'm not advocating getting sloppy fat and gorging on shit food but you obviously haven't been pushing it on the diet side based on the pics.

If you want to add size you MUST commit to losing some condition while doing so (look at the pro's off season pics). It takes time and being a little uncomfortable (full all the time) to stay in a legit surplus to add real muscle size as @gr8whitetrukker was referring too. Your training must also match your current goal so you're maximizing tissue break down and capitalizing on the added nutrition for recovery.
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Solid fucking post. See so many guys jump into a cut just to piss away the small mass gains they made on a much too short "bulk".
 
fodsod said:
Honestly, you look like you've been cutting or recomping in your pics. You appear to be in decent shape from a BF%. Definitely not on the tail end of a bulk. High tren, low test on a bulk is not a great combo anyway unless you're running some other stuff in there with it to maximize weight gain. High test and low tren would better serve you but I'd probably go high test with a different anabolic (EQ, Deca, Mast) then switch to tren towards the end of the bulk to help transition to a cut or recomp. Tren is great but it's just not a good true bulking substance most of the time as it kills appetite and peels water off. Plus it can make it harder to catch your breath when you're already 10-20+ pounds heavier than you are normally (mostly water and glycogen weight).

Bulking requires a surplus and you will add some fat unless you're running GH (OK if you're running insulin) or fat burners (not good during a bulk). You don't appear to be holding water (thanks to the tren) or much fat which tells me you haven't really been in a surplus. I'm not advocating getting sloppy fat and gorging on shit food but you obviously haven't been pushing it on the diet side based on the pics.

If you want to add size you MUST commit to losing some condition while doing so (look at the pro's off season pics). It takes time and being a little uncomfortable (full all the time) to stay in a legit surplus to add real muscle size as @gr8whitetrukker was referring too. Your training must also match your current goal so you're maximizing tissue break down and capitalizing on the added nutrition for recovery.
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Why aren't you a fan of low test high tren for a bulk? Isn't tren supposed to be much more anabolic than test? I've found that I gain quality weight as opposed to mostly water and fat with this combo. Gone from around 190ish to around 213 in 8ish weeks so far with very little fat gain. Do you think it's an Ok combo so as long as you remain in a surplus?

Thanks for the reply btw. Very helpful and informative.
 
fodsod said:
Honestly, you look like you've been cutting or recomping in your pics. You appear to be in decent shape from a BF%. Definitely not on the tail end of a bulk. High tren, low test on a bulk is not a great combo anyway unless you're running some other stuff in there with it to maximize weight gain. High test and low tren would better serve you but I'd probably go high test with a different anabolic (EQ, Deca, Mast) then switch to tren towards the end of the bulk to help transition to a cut or recomp. Tren is great but it's just not a good true bulking substance most of the time as it kills appetite and peels water off. Plus it can make it harder to catch your breath when you're already 10-20+ pounds heavier than you are normally (mostly water and glycogen weight).

Bulking requires a surplus and you will add some fat unless you're running GH (OK if you're running insulin) or fat burners (not good during a bulk). You don't appear to be holding water (thanks to the tren) or much fat which tells me you haven't really been in a surplus. I'm not advocating getting sloppy fat and gorging on shit food but you obviously haven't been pushing it on the diet side based on the pics.

If you want to add size you MUST commit to losing some condition while doing so (look at the pro's off season pics). It takes time and being a little uncomfortable (full all the time) to stay in a legit surplus to add real muscle size as @gr8whitetrukker was referring too. Your training must also match your current goal so you're maximizing tissue break down and capitalizing on the added nutrition for recovery.
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Absolute gold post.
 
foxace36 said:
Why aren't you a fan of low test high tren for a bulk? Isn't tren supposed to be much more anabolic than test? I've found that I gain quality weight as opposed to mostly water and fat with this combo. Gone from around 190ish to around 213 in 8ish weeks so far with very little fat gain. Do you think it's an Ok combo so as long as you remain in a surplus?

Thanks for the reply btw. Very helpful and informative.
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Scully posted a study some time ago basically disproving the anabolic ratio of tren compared to test. The conclusion was tren wasnt any more anabolic than test just that the method of function was different.
 
gr8whitetrukker said:
Scully posted a study some time ago basically disproving the anabolic ratio of tren compared to test. The conclusion was tren wasnt any more anabolic than test just that the method of function was different.
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So, if you manage to stay in a surplus and tren doesn't kill your appetite, would low test and high tren be a fine bulking combo? I don't really like how bloated test makes me (happens even if e2 is controlled)
 
foxace36 said:
So, if you manage to stay in a surplus and tren doesn't kill your appetite, would low test and high tren be a fine bulking combo? I don't really like how bloated test makes me (happens even if e2 is controlled)
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My friend chesty uses the term "anchor hormone" and i like that term so im going to use it :)

You need an anchor hormone. Tren is not an anchor hormone. I would suggest deca. Deca is great by me
 
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