why do most people say "test is best broo"? as if its fact?

His origin story...


probably got beatup by Mexicans and Turkish children that came from a trailer park. Thats why he holds so much resentment.

Case closed

Don’t worry he’ll be back to insult someone else’s mother or kids and maybe if you’re lucky it’ll be a slight on your ethnicity lol.

Either someone on SST is copy & pasting his posts from here or he's there now.
 
Either someone on SST is copy & pasting his posts from here or he's there now.
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Fair enough. But what if test does not work for me?!

I tried any dose of pharma grade test: 250,500, 750 mg. Puffy red face, libido shattered, ED, gains subpar.

500mg nandrolone Decanoate solo and I have 0 issues.

Why would I go for test?!
What is with this placebo bullshit people still keep preaching like pharma grade is somehow magically more potent and effective than ugl

Let me let you in on a little secret BUDDY.

All the raws we get here. That "Chinese piss water testosterone raws"

Just so happen to be what's sold for the pharma grade labs..... They just reject the bad raws they receive assumingly because of stricter standards. But if we the "ugl" happen to recieve 98% test E. Does it automagically become less effective than the pharma labs who get the exact same raws?


Let's be REAL

Its god damn placebo and rumor tax! Its like chasing the rainbow

We wanna believe somehow pharmaceutical grade test has something extra in it but it does NOT

They simply practice safe behavior when brewing and have a process


A GOOD ugl can do the same exact same thing and achieve "pharma grade" test


Your pharma vials are not magic. They are brewed and made correct and dosed correct. Find a lab who does the same thing and you won't have that issue.. You likely was getting fake gear. You trust and put too much faith in any lab and you get burned. That's why it's best to always test your gear randomly just to keep that source in check. It helps everyone.
 
What is with this placebo bullshit people still keep preaching like pharma grade is somehow magically more potent and effective than ugl

Let me let you in on a little secret BUDDY.

All the raws we get here. That "Chinese piss water testosterone raws"

Just so happen to be what's sold for the pharma grade labs..... They just reject the bad raws they receive assumingly because of stricter standards. But if we the "ugl" happen to recieve 98% test E. Does it automagically become less effective than the pharma labs who get the exact same raws?


Let's be REAL

Its god damn placebo and rumor tax! Its like chasing the rainbow

We wanna believe somehow pharmaceutical grade test has something extra in it but it does NOT

They simply practice safe behavior when brewing and have a process


A GOOD ugl can do the same exact same thing and achieve "pharma grade" test


Your pharma vials are not magic. They are brewed and made correct and dosed correct. Find a lab who does the same thing and you won't have that issue.. You likely was getting fake gear. You trust and put too much faith in any lab and you get burned. That's why it's best to always test your gear randomly just to keep that source in check. It helps everyone.

Yeah, when he mentioned pharma products and how "pharma Test" didn't work for him my first thought was that he was likely getting fake Test. Why any source would fake such a cheap to produce product is beyond me but if they're gonna go that route then 9/10 times they're going to label it as pharma grade Test.

It would be helpful to everyone if @CaptainAll posted the source he used, so that we can judge for ourselves and maybe help give him some answers. We need more data from him because the response, or lack of response he got from the Tetsosterone is wild.
 
Yeah, when he mentioned pharma products and how "pharma Test" didn't work for him my first thought was that he was likely getting fake Test. Why any source would fake such a cheap to produce product is beyond me but if they're gonna go that route then 9/10 times they're going to label it as pharma grade Test.

It would be helpful to everyone if @CaptainAll posted the source he used, so that we can judge for ourselves and maybe help give him some answers. We need more data from him because the response, or lack of response he got from the Tetsosterone is wild.
he already pointed out the problem was his estrogen was always too high or too low and he was lazy with his bloodwork. he probably had real testosterone ugl or pharma.

clearly its some kind of hormones if he got ED from it. im surely they didnt sell him a more expensive product
 
I tend to agree you you guys on UGL Test E. A while back I got 50 free amps from GA -before they shit all over themselves. I've always used Cyp but figured since I had those amps I'd mix it up and run Enanthate for a while, just to see how I'd respond. The pip is more noticeable no matter what source I use and I don't feel like I'm getting as much out of it as I do Cyp. Obviously aside from the pip this is purely anecdotal and could easily just be placebo effect but there does seem to be something with the Test E we have access to. Either way I regret switching esters and going back to Cyp soon.

*I did hear Kurt Havens (he seems better than most YT'ers who discuss gear) recently discuss a year long study he did with a group in which they found Enanthate to be the superior Test ester. If I remember correctly they basically found that Cyp saturates a little quicker and has a higher peak but that Enanthate has a more consistent peak once saturated and is more viable for longterm use (sort of sounds like it was a flawed study to me so take it for what you will). Either way, Cyp is the way to go for me.
 
I highly disagree when it comes to test E... Something isn't right about the ugl raw material
I bet there's a way to wash out that (what the hell is the name of that acid? Carbolic acid?)

If so, I bet they do that, kind of like refining. In chemistry, I'd imagine word gets around fast. Like Breaking Bad, so much made in bulk (Gus level) vs when they were cranking it out in the motorhome lol.
 
I bet there's a way to wash out that (what the hell is the name of that acid? Carbolic acid?)

If so, I bet they do that, kind of like refining. In chemistry, I'd imagine word gets around fast. Like Breaking Bad, so much made in bulk (Gus level) vs when they were cranking it out in the motorhome lol.
If you go that far, might as well start from scratch right and prevent the damage from ever happening.
 
is test the BEST steroid? or do internet armchair scientists just push the idea that it is because of the sunk cost fallacy?
because the whole idea of using steroids in lieu of test is the similar or greater results with fewer sides.

A lot of forum users like to pontificate test being the best, "you need test in your cycle man". "test is natural", but 10mg of test is a day is natural for healthy young men, not 100mg a day.

when imagine aesthetics, i think of danny padilla, gunnar rosbo, bill pearl.
natural test production is stopped when using any steroid as its an androgenic compound and your body says lol i dont need to produce test anymore and guess what happens when you have no test in you.Sure you might get good results on a no test cycle but your dick wont work if you dont have test in your body.
 
If you go that far, might as well start from scratch right and prevent the damage from ever happening.
You're right, it shouldn't have been tainted in the first place.

It does have me curious on a few things. I wonder if you could take, say, 50 grams of Test E, liquify it, and add in some baking soda (sodium bicarbonate)--good acid neutralizer and kill off that carbonic acid. I'm not a chemist, so IDK. The next thing that comes to mind as I ponder this thing is, how then, do you remove the sodium bicarbonate?

Damn lol, now I wonder if you could take something like Deca, which always seems to come in at a low purity. It seems like when someone displays the results of it from janoshik, the purity is so low. Could one remove the impurities somehow? Or are we talking centrifuges and stuff? How complicated would it be to try to do something like that? It would be pretty cool if it were possible to do so if it was reasonably easy. Leaving the compound at like 99 - 100%
 
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