Why such high dosed UGL DBOL???

[lavitabella88]

Maybe a weird question or just an old belief but isn't dbol usually best taken every 4-6hrs to keep stable blood levels and common doses I would think are 30-60mgs a day which is 5-10mgs every 4-6 or at least that's how I was taught. so why does EVERY ugl\brewer seem to dose DBOL in 25 or 50mg capsules??? am I the only one that finds this inconvienent?? Or do ppl just need way more since its UGL???

 

[Apexvallen]

At the level of 99% of people using dbol, it wouldn't make a bit of difference if they took it all PWO or split it into a hundred microdoses throughout the day.

 

[lavitabella88]

At the level of 99% of people using dbol, it wouldn't make a bit of difference if they took it all PWO or split it into a hundred microdoses throughout the day.

PWO does have its place but not everyone uses it for that reason. Dianabol being a Pharma approved drug means it comes with a lot of literature and research and the majority state that 4-6 times a day or at the minimum 2-3 is better for stability and over all health plus it keeps you anabolic all day instead of 1 short 5-6 hr burst.

But at the end of the day the forum members are the customers and if the forum members think pwo dbol only is better then that's what they'll sell. I was just curious when that belief changed. I mean a beginner might start at 15-20mg and their not even considered by the ugl market. And I'm sure more then 60-70% of ugl customer are newer to the game or just getting back into it. Most long time advanced users and competitors have real sources (plus they travel so there always around legal gear) and would be to busy to lurk forums.

Idk I think I'm just selfish lol and prefer and wish they had a 10mg option or even 20mg but the capsules commonly used make it hard to split. 20-25mg hard pressed tabs wouldn't be too bad. 25mg capsules are probably easier but easier isn't always better. Thanks for the opinion and giving me an idea.

 

[Apexvallen]

Well its certainly better to have a constant amount in your blood, but unless youre a top tier bodybuilder/athlete/whatever you probably won't notice a difference, hence the indifference towards splitting the dose. I couldn't comment on if this is a new phenomenon or not.

You can split caps too its just a pain in the ass.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

My Dbol, just bought in Thailand, is 10mg per pill. 500 pills per bottle.

 

[Wunderpus]

A lot of people are phasing into just taking orals, especially dbol, adrol, halo etc., pre workout only.

 

[Test_Subject]

Trying to maintain "stable blood levels" with an oral drug with a short half life is an exercise in futility.

It's better to have more of the drug in your system when you will benefit the most from it, meaning during and after your workouts.

 

[Jankauskas]

Trying to maintain "stable blood levels" with an oral drug with a short half life is an exercise in futility.

It's better to have more of the drug in your system when you will benefit the most from it, meaning during and after your workouts.

Interesting angle, would like to hear more opinions on this

 

[lavitabella88]

Well its certainly better to have a constant amount in your blood, but unless youre a top tier bodybuilder/athlete/whatever you probably won't notice a difference, hence the indifference towards splitting the dose. I couldn't comment on if this is a new phenomenon or not.

You can split caps too its just a pain in the ass.

Makes perfect sense. And agree I'm just very OCD when it comes to my cycle and I like to keep things to a science... because well it is a science. But why do something less efficently just cause you're not yet at the pro level. My belief is: if I can make something even 1% better I'll do it. But I'll do more research on pwo only. Just wish there was the option and yeah splitting the powder in the caps can be a pain lmao

 

[lavitabella88]

My Dbol, just bought in Thailand, is 10mg per pill. 500 pills per bottle.

Nice. British Dispensary?? Or no I think their only 1000 per bottle. That's good tho can get a 2 or 3 cycles out of that

 

[lavitabella88]

Trying to maintain "stable blood levels" with an oral drug with a short half life is an exercise in futility.

It's better to have more of the drug in your system when you will benefit the most from it, meaning during and after your workouts.

Some merit to that but gains aren't made in the gym. They're made when you're resting and recovering. When you're sleeping is very important as well... if your just taking it for strength then yeah pwo all the way but if you're talking it for growth and refuse to take it more then once a day I would almost argue taking a dose before bed would be more efficient... and keeping steady blood levels is far easier then you think. Just takes discipline.

 

[Docd187123]

Some merit to that but gains aren't made in the gym. They're made when you're resting and recovering. When you're sleeping is very important as well... if your just taking it for strength then yeah pwo all the way but if you're talking it for growth and refuse to take it more then once a day I would almost argue taking a dose before bed would be more efficient... and keeping steady blood levels is far easier then you think. Just takes discipline.

Keeping blood levels stable for oral steroids that are not being taken to treat a medical condition is a waste of effort.

Do you understand how half lives work? Suppose you took a 10mg dose 5x throughout the day and suppose it
Has a 5hr half life. By the end of the day you're going to have a little less than 20mg in your body and that's the maximum you'll have for that day

Suppose you take 50mg all at once and the same 5hr half life. At the end of the day you'll have most of the dbol out of your system but for the first 10hrs of the day after dosing, you'll have higher levels of it in your blood than at any point in time with the 5 a day dosing. After 15hrs you'll still have more in you than after the 1st dosing of the 5 a day dosing levels.

There's evidence which suggests it's the high peaks and troughs that builds muscle and strength and not steady state levels. There's also evidence to show that after a highly catabolic period, the body will overcompensate with a anabolic period. The once a day dosing best mimics that.

If you wish to take it 5x a day that's on you but don't kid yourself into thinking it's definitely the better route.

 

[Jankauskas]

Some merit to that but gains aren't made in the gym. They're made when you're resting and recovering. When you're sleeping is very important as well... if your just taking it for strength then yeah pwo all the way but if you're talking it for growth and refuse to take it more then once a day I would almost argue taking a dose before bed would be more efficient... and keeping steady blood levels is far easier then you think. Just takes discipline.

I agree with you, unfortunately I have caps so I have to take only 2 (40mg), if I took more than that it would be too much

 

[lavitabella88]

Keeping blood levels stable for oral steroids that are not being taken to treat a medical condition is a waste of effort.

Do you understand how half lives work? Suppose you took a 10mg dose 5x throughout the day and suppose it
Has a 5hr half life. By the end of the day you're going to have a little less than 20mg in your body and that's the maximum you'll have for that day

Suppose you take 50mg all at once and the same 5hr half life. At the end of the day you'll have most of the dbol out of your system but for the first 10hrs of the day after dosing, you'll have higher levels of it in your blood than at any point in time with the 5 a day dosing. After 15hrs you'll still have more in you than after the 1st dosing of the 5 a day dosing levels.

There's evidence which suggests it's the high peaks and troughs that builds muscle and strength and not steady state levels. There's also evidence to show that after a highly catabolic period, the body will overcompensate with a anabolic period. The once a day dosing best mimics that.

If you wish to take it 5x a day that's on you but don't kid yourself into thinking it's definitely the better route.

Yes bud I've been researching this stuff for over a decade and I don't mean forums and bro science I mean actual literature. Pages and pages read and years and years applied practice. I know exactly how half life's work that's why I said there's merit to once a day dosing I just think that once a day is better applied before bed as opposed to pwo. And I've seen better results in ppl (including myself) who have taken it every 4 hours instead of once a day. Even if that means waking up once or twice a night to take a dose and keeping a timer and a bottle on you at all times. Now if you have years of personal and anecdotal experience of waking up everything night cause you need too take a dose as well as once a day routines and have found 1ed works best then by all means stick too that. I personally think people prefer once a day as well as twisting science because of a lack of discipline and wanting an easier dosing protocol. Every few years I check out the forums and every few years there's someone like you trying to dumb down protocols and defy a century of AAS research that already exists... does my opinion offend you "doc"??

 

[pitbull]

I dont have enough of a degree to argue what is better for dosing. BUT my personal experience has shown me that an oral before a workout sure leads to a better workout, which hopefully translates to better gains

 

[master.on]

Maybe a weird question or just an old belief but isn't dbol usually best taken every 4-6hrs to keep stable blood levels and common doses I would think are 30-60mgs a day which is 5-10mgs every 4-6 or at least that's how I was taught. so why does EVERY ugl\brewer seem to dose DBOL in 25 or 50mg capsules??? am I the only one that finds this inconvienent?? Or do ppl just need way more since its UGL???

I guess it has to do with
1 tablet presses being expensive and sought by le.
2 customs. Easier to get 50 x 50mg tabs to pass than 500 x 5 mg.
50 tabs suggests personal medicinal use, especially if sent in proper labeled blisters/bottles. 500 tabs suggests dealing.

 

[Test_Subject]

Yes bud I've been researching this stuff for over a decade and I don't mean forums and bro science I mean actual literature. Pages and pages read and years and years applied practice. I know exactly how half life's work that's why I said there's merit to once a day dosing I just think that once a day is better applied before bed as opposed to pwo. And I've seen better results in ppl (including myself) who have taken it every 4 hours instead of once a day. Even if that means waking up once or twice a night to take a dose and keeping a timer and a bottle on you at all times. Now if you have years of personal and anecdotal experience of waking up everything night cause you need too take a dose as well as once a day routines and have found 1ed works best then by all means stick too that. I personally think people prefer once a day as well as twisting science because of a lack of discipline and wanting an easier dosing protocol. Every few years I check out the forums and every few years there's someone like you trying to dumb down protocols and defy a century of AAS research that already exists... does my opinion offend you "doc"??

^^ butthurt.

Feel free to cite one piece of the "century of research" (steriods haven't even been around a century) that backs your opinion.

That should be no problem with such a preponderance of evidence, no?

 

[Docd187123]

Yes bud I've been researching this stuff for over a decade and I don't mean forums and bro science I mean actual literature. Pages and pages read and years and years applied practice. I know exactly how half life's work that's why I said there's merit to once a day dosing I just think that once a day is better applied before bed as opposed to pwo. And I've seen better results in ppl (including myself) who have taken it every 4 hours instead of once a day. Even if that means waking up once or twice a night to take a dose and keeping a timer and a bottle on you at all times. Now if you have years of personal and anecdotal experience of waking up everything night cause you need too take a dose as well as once a day routines and have found 1ed works best then by all means stick too that. I personally think people prefer once a day as well as twisting science because of a lack of discipline and wanting an easier dosing protocol. Every few years I check out the forums and every few years there's someone like you trying to dumb down protocols and defy a century of AAS research that already exists... does my opinion offend you "doc"??

Your opinion doesn't offend me, your generalizations do as well as the potential misapplication of your literature.

So you agree that sleep is what best helps with recovery. Good. Do you agree it's not just sleep but deep REM sleep moreso? If so, why are you advocating interrupting REM sleep not once but possibly twice each and every night for the length of the oral cycle simply to take a 5-10mg dose of dbol for example? That's retarded thinking at its finest "bella".

Ppl are lazy so they want to dumb down a cycle by taking an oral steroid once a day but at the same time those ppl are also pinning IGF1, insulin, peptides, PWO injectables, etc sometimes MULTIPLE times a day. So they're too lazy to pop a couple pills but not too lazy to do several injections? Maybe you should think before you open your mouth. At least you'd look less like an idiot if you did.

Hmmmm, every few years you check out the forums and you've seen better results dosing multiple times throughout the day than once a day?

Let me tell you what I see when I check out this forum:

1) i see that on October 2, 2017 you posted it has been 7years since your last cycle.

2) I see that on October 2, 2017 you also stated that your last cycle, the one 7years ago, was your second cycle.

3) I see that it's POSSIBLE you did dbol on your first cycle...possible

4) I see its absolute BULLSHIT that you've seen better results dosing multiple times a day vs once a day bc at most you've only tried it 2 times. Probably only once and that was your second cycle.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Nice. British Dispensary?? Or no I think their only 1000 per bottle. That's good tho can get a 2 or 3 cycles out of that

It's a Thai brand

 

[Kakarot]

It's a Thai brand

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