Why there almost certainly is No God!!

What I mean is I would never dislike or hate or not become friends with a person because they have different beleifs. I dont feel what I beleive makes me a better person than the next,but it can make me a better person in general. Thanks Scally, looking back I should have better explained myself, I hope that makes better sense.
 
Guest Post: Don Page on God and Cosmology
http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2015/03/20/guest-post-don-page-on-god-and-cosmology/

Don Page is one of the world’s leading experts on theoretical gravitational physics and cosmology, as well as a previous guest-blogger around these parts. (There are more world experts in theoretical physics than there are people who have guest-blogged for me, so the latter category is arguably a greater honor.) He is also, somewhat unusually among cosmologists, an Evangelical Christian, and interested in the relationship between cosmology and religious belief.
 
Hey kind of related. Does anyone else feel that going under anasthesia is the closest feeling to death and much like going under, when we die there will be a struggle to hold on then black? No heaven, no Angels with trumpets just black?

Idk when I went under for surgery and tried to fight the anasthesia (it felt unnatural to let it get me) when I woke this was what I was thinking about till the dilaudid came
 
Religion and Innovation

What they found: People who are religious have less favorable views of science and technology and are less willing to accept new ideas and technologies; the greater the religiosity of a state or country, the less innovative it was, as measured in patents per capita.

Why it matters: Economists have found conflicting evidence regarding the effects of religion on economic growth. On the one hand, religious people have been shown to be more trusting and trustworthy (e.g., they’re less likely to take a bribe), leading to a baseline level of cooperation that allows the economy to operate more smoothly.

But religion’s effect on innovation seems to cut the other way: Religious individuals tend to be less supportive of new technologies — and innovation is the primary driver of long-term economic growth.

In an earlier 2013 paper, these authors studied the rate of innovation (in patents per capita) across U.S. states and foreign countries, while controlling for income and other variables. Uniformly, places that were more religious were less innovative. In this paper, the authors study the relationship between religiosity and innovation at the individual level.

Specifically, the researchers examine people’s attitudes toward science and technology, or their openness to new ideas, versus how important they say religion is in their lives and how often they attend church. Like the earlier study, this one controlled for several possible confounding demographic variables — income, education, age, and so on. The researchers sliced the data 52 different ways and across the board, religiosity was very negatively associated with pro-innovation attitudes.

Key quote: “Historically, religion often played an important role in the spread of general literacy and education, though this is no longer true after the mid-19th century. Since more educated individuals generally tend, as we showed earlier, to be more open to new ideas, change, risk, etc., this might be seen as an offsetting factor to the direct negative relationship between religiosity and innovativeness — albeit a self-limiting one, since religiosity itself declines with education.”

Bénabou R, Ticchi D, Vindigni A. Religion and Innovation (March 2015). NBER Working Paper No. w21052. Available at SSRN: http://ssrn.com/abstract=2586905

In earlier work (Bénabou, Ticchi and Vindigni 2013) we uncovered a robust negative association between religiosity and patents per capita, holding across countries as well as US states, with and without controls. In this paper we turn to the individual level, examining the relationship between religiosity and a broad set of pro- or anti-innovation attitudes in all five waves of the World Values Survey (1980 to 2005). We thus relate eleven indicators of individual openness to innovation, broadly defined (e.g., attitudes toward science and technology, new versus old ideas, change, risk taking, personal agency, imagination and independence in children) to five different measures of religiosity, including beliefs and attendance. We control for all standard socio-demographics as well as country, year and denomination fixed effects. Across the fifty-two estimated specifications, greater religiosity is almost uniformly and very significantly associated to less favorable views of innovation.
 
Religion and Innovation

What they found: People who are religious have less favorable views of science and technology and are less willing to accept new ideas and technologies; the greater the religiosity of a state or country, the less innovative it was, as measured in patents per capita.

Why it matters: Economists have found conflicting evidence regarding the effects of religion on economic growth. On the one hand, religious people have been shown to be more trusting and trustworthy (e.g., they’re less likely to take a bribe), leading to a baseline level of cooperation that allows the economy to operate more smoothly.

But religion’s effect on innovation seems to cut the other way: Religious individuals tend to be less supportive of new technologies — and innovation is the primary driver of long-term economic growth.

In an earlier 2013 paper, these authors studied the rate of innovation (in patents per capita) across U.S. states and foreign countries, while controlling for income and other variables. Uniformly, places that were more religious were less innovative. In this paper, the authors study the relationship between religiosity and innovation at the individual level.

Specifically, the researchers examine people’s attitudes toward science and technology, or their openness to new ideas, versus how important they say religion is in their lives and how often they attend church. Like the earlier study, this one controlled for several possible confounding demographic variables — income, education, age, and so on. The researchers sliced the data 52 different ways and across the board, religiosity was very negatively associated with pro-innovation attitudes.

Key quote: “Historically, religion often played an important role in the spread of general literacy and education, though this is no longer true after the mid-19th century. Since more educated individuals generally tend, as we showed earlier, to be more open to new ideas, change, risk, etc., this might be seen as an offsetting factor to the direct negative relationship between religiosity and innovativeness — albeit a self-limiting one, since religiosity itself declines with education.”

Bénabou R, Ticchi D, Vindigni A. Religion and Innovation (March 2015). NBER Working Paper No. w21052. Available at SSRN: http://ssrn.com/abstract=2586905

In earlier work (Bénabou, Ticchi and Vindigni 2013) we uncovered a robust negative association between religiosity and patents per capita, holding across countries as well as US states, with and without controls. In this paper we turn to the individual level, examining the relationship between religiosity and a broad set of pro- or anti-innovation attitudes in all five waves of the World Values Survey (1980 to 2005). We thus relate eleven indicators of individual openness to innovation, broadly defined (e.g., attitudes toward science and technology, new versus old ideas, change, risk taking, personal agency, imagination and independence in children) to five different measures of religiosity, including beliefs and attendance. We control for all standard socio-demographics as well as country, year and denomination fixed effects. Across the fifty-two estimated specifications, greater religiosity is almost uniformly and very significantly associated to less favorable views of innovation.

No surprise considering most if not all organized religions already have all the answers to all the questions. Why would you want to look for something new when you already know all there is to know?

On the flip side, there does seem to be some small inference that the less religious group may be a bit lacking in the moral department...
 
Leave No Stone Unturned - An Easter Challenge For Christians
http://ffrf.org/legacy/books/lfif/stone.php

Chapter 24: Losing Faith In Faith: From Preacher To Atheist, by Dan Barker

I HAVE AN EASTER challenge for Christians. My challenge is simply this: tell me what happened on Easter. I am not asking for proof. My straightforward request is merely that Christians tell me exactly what happened on the day that their most important doctrine was born.

Believers should eagerly take up this challenge, since without the resurrection, there is no Christianity. Paul wrote, "And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not." (I Corinthians 15:14-15)

The conditions of the challenge are simple and reasonable. In each of the four Gospels, begin at Easter morning and read to the end of the book: Matthew 28, Mark 16, Luke 24, and John 20-21. Also read Acts 1:3-12 and Paul's tiny version of the story in I Corinthians 15:3-8. These 165 verses can be read in a few moments. Then, without omitting a single detail from these separate accounts, write a simple, chronological narrative of the events between the resurrection and the ascension: what happened first, second, and so on; who said what, when; and where these things happened.

Since the gospels do not always give precise times of day, it is permissible to make educated guesses. The narrative does not have to pretend to present a perfect picture--it only needs to give at least one plausible account of all of the facts. Additional explanation of the narrative may be set apart in parentheses. The important condition to the challenge, however, is that not one single biblical detail be omitted. Fair enough?

I have tried this challenge myself. I failed. An Assembly of God minister whom I was debating a couple of years ago on a Florida radio show loudly proclaimed over the air that he would send me the narrative in a few days. I am still waiting. After my debate at the University of Wisconsin, "Jesus of Nazareth: Messiah or Myth," a Lutheran graduate student told me he accepted the challenge and would be contacting me in about a week. I have never heard from him. Both of these people, and others, agreed that the request was reasonable and crucial. Maybe they are slow readers.
 
Coyne JA. Science, Religion, and Society: The Problem of Evolution in America. Evolution. 2012;66(8):2654-63. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1558-5646.2012.01664.x/full

American resistance to accepting evolution is uniquely high among First World countries. This is due largely to the extreme religiosity of the United States, which is much higher than that of comparably advanced nations, and to the resistance of many religious people to the facts and supposed implications of evolution. The prevalence of religious belief in the United States suggests that outreach by scientists alone will not have a huge effect in increasing the acceptance of evolution, nor will the strategy of trying to convince the faithful that evolution is compatible with their religion. Because creationism is a symptom of religion, another strategy to promote evolution involves loosening the grip of faith on America. This is easier said than done, for recent sociological surveys show that religion is highly correlated with the dysfunctionality of a society, and various measures of societal health show that the United States is one of the most socially dysfunctional First World countries. Widespread acceptance of evolution in America, then, may have to await profound social change.
 
Leave No Stone Unturned - An Easter Challenge For Christians
http://ffrf.org/legacy/books/lfif/stone.php

Chapter 24: Losing Faith In Faith: From Preacher To Atheist, by Dan Barker

I HAVE AN EASTER challenge for Christians. My challenge is simply this: tell me what happened on Easter. I am not asking for proof. My straightforward request is merely that Christians tell me exactly what happened on the day that their most important doctrine was born.

Believers should eagerly take up this challenge, since without the resurrection, there is no Christianity. Paul wrote, "And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not." (I Corinthians 15:14-15)

The conditions of the challenge are simple and reasonable. In each of the four Gospels, begin at Easter morning and read to the end of the book: Matthew 28, Mark 16, Luke 24, and John 20-21. Also read Acts 1:3-12 and Paul's tiny version of the story in I Corinthians 15:3-8. These 165 verses can be read in a few moments. Then, without omitting a single detail from these separate accounts, write a simple, chronological narrative of the events between the resurrection and the ascension: what happened first, second, and so on; who said what, when; and where these things happened.

Since the gospels do not always give precise times of day, it is permissible to make educated guesses. The narrative does not have to pretend to present a perfect picture--it only needs to give at least one plausible account of all of the facts. Additional explanation of the narrative may be set apart in parentheses. The important condition to the challenge, however, is that not one single biblical detail be omitted. Fair enough?

I have tried this challenge myself. I failed. An Assembly of God minister whom I was debating a couple of years ago on a Florida radio show loudly proclaimed over the air that he would send me the narrative in a few days. I am still waiting. After my debate at the University of Wisconsin, "Jesus of Nazareth: Messiah or Myth," a Lutheran graduate student told me he accepted the challenge and would be contacting me in about a week. I have never heard from him. Both of these people, and others, agreed that the request was reasonable and crucial. Maybe they are slow readers.

Maybe Paul was a liar, never sat with Jesus, was never a disciple, and went about hijacking Christianity :(. No crucifixion, no resurrection, no trinity; just Paul and his lies :(. I think the Romans liked his ideas though :).
 
I am not a huge bible reader but I found interesting and thought I would play.

This man is disbelieving VIA "over-believing" or a farce... First - HE IS ATTEMPTING TO TAKE THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE TOO CONTEXTUALLY LITERALLY WITH REFERENCE TO TENSE and ACTION. But this is his distraction/semantics.

The use of the English Language has varied so widely over the years that it is impossible to tell what someone is referring to with regard to TIME.. And even at a single TIME in different CULTURES..

The Guy argues that believers falsely WANT to argue PAST PERFECT on the first sentence -The guy is reaching... CAUSE IT JUST DON"T MATTER...

FURTHER FOR EXAMPLE...:(his examples and interpretations - He completely ignores a potential time shift in this sentence...!)

2) (His writing) - Yet Mark's Gospel says it happened before the women arrived: "And they said among themselves, Who shall roll away the stone from the door of the sepulchre? And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great."


** This example could easily be construed to say the women looked and watched a heavy stone roll before their eyes... Hence NOT Before... So Mark and Matthew DO AGREE contrary to his interpretation...

Etc... Etc...

But the POINT is that A DETECTIVE IS DETECTING A LIE VIA PROVING DIFFERENCE OF STORIES... As if no one wants to own up to moving the stone...

OR HE IS ATTEMPTING TO CREATE ONE...


1. None of this has to do with whether Jesus Arose or not. THESE CONDITIONS PERTAIN TO CONFIRMATION OF A BODY or NOT.
2. He argues to FORGET TIME OF DAY... YOU CAN'T DO THAT...
3. Sadly there is a clear indication of POLITICS IN PLAY. It is unclear what the MOTIVES of the Biblical writers are. Whether or not the even wanted to be known to be there or be known to have potentially moved the stone. OR EVEN BE KNOW TO HAVE POTENTIALLY "SEEN WHO DID.."! REALLY - The Romans just frickaseed his ass, do you really want to be implicated in bringing forth that he's back.!!!!!!!!!!!!
4. THE TRICK which he is attempting to pull off VIA DISTRACTION is that is does not matter if Jesus truly did walk again or was seen OUTSIDE of the box:eek:, because HE WAS ALREADY GONE ..... IF... Was the case...

** THE TRUTH is that this man WAS NEVER A PREACHER which is the biggest scam of all. He was clearly his own Pagan Idol if ever anything at all and any time he did pretending to be a preacher was just an attempt to gain credibility to discredit the holy writings.!

The Holy Bible was never STATED to be PURELY QUANTIFIABLE. IN FACT IT IS STATED TO BE AN UN-QUALIFIABLE MIRACLE. Its a matter of half empty half full equation which science can't find the line.

IMHO - This is a lightweight demonic attempt to discredit God & Jesus. However, it IS dangerously potent as this man is PRESENTING FALSELY to use fact and logic, and where none can be applied. This is DANGEROUS RHETORIC AT BEST which contaminates the mind of the average man on the hunt, who may not be aware he is on a hunt...! A PRIME example of the PROBLEM(many times) called "The Church". And WHAT happens when SLOTH purveys and mankind is too lazy to read and draw their own conclusions. I mean SWEET JESUS. Who ever said God had to prove his magic act. And yet humanity is so quick to be entertained by jesters in the streets... LOL..

It has always been your CHOICE and NOT/NEVER this man's OPINION.....! Or do you just go in and donate your house to any old church on the corner...?! Really.. What WOULD he ask for if enough believed his bullshit. Anyone ever note how much $$$ the "Church" makes? Anyone notice they are currently trying to make atheism a CHURCH....!

:);)


Leave No Stone Unturned - An Easter Challenge For Christians
http://ffrf.org/legacy/books/lfif/stone.php

Chapter 24: Losing Faith In Faith: From Preacher To Atheist, by Dan Barker

I HAVE AN EASTER challenge for Christians. My challenge is simply this: tell me what happened on Easter. I am not asking for proof. My straightforward request is merely that Christians tell me exactly what happened on the day that their most important doctrine was born.

Believers should eagerly take up this challenge, since without the resurrection, there is no Christianity. Paul wrote, "And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not." (I Corinthians 15:14-15)

The conditions of the challenge are simple and reasonable. In each of the four Gospels, begin at Easter morning and read to the end of the book: Matthew 28, Mark 16, Luke 24, and John 20-21. Also read Acts 1:3-12 and Paul's tiny version of the story in I Corinthians 15:3-8. These 165 verses can be read in a few moments. Then, without omitting a single detail from these separate accounts, write a simple, chronological narrative of the events between the resurrection and the ascension: what happened first, second, and so on; who said what, when; and where these things happened.

Since the gospels do not always give precise times of day, it is permissible to make educated guesses. The narrative does not have to pretend to present a perfect picture--it only needs to give at least one plausible account of all of the facts. Additional explanation of the narrative may be set apart in parentheses. The important condition to the challenge, however, is that not one single biblical detail be omitted. Fair enough?

I have tried this challenge myself. I failed. An Assembly of God minister whom I was debating a couple of years ago on a Florida radio show loudly proclaimed over the air that he would send me the narrative in a few days. I am still waiting. After my debate at the University of Wisconsin, "Jesus of Nazareth: Messiah or Myth," a Lutheran graduate student told me he accepted the challenge and would be contacting me in about a week. I have never heard from him. Both of these people, and others, agreed that the request was reasonable and crucial. Maybe they are slow readers.
 
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- WHERE IS IT SAID THAT EVOLUTION AND CREATIONISM CLASH. Why could "God" not create a likeness capable of EVOLUTION. That WOULD SEEM to be a BIGGER TRICK THAN CREATIONISM. Now that would be kind of short sighted and locked in a box now wouldn't it...!??

- Who says that because there was a big bang and shit kept on changing, that a God did not clap his hands.?!

What is interestingly POTENT about all this arguing and attempting to prove things that cant be proven is as follows. A man with follow his beliefs with complete devotion as some point he will be true. THEY MAY be slow to manifest but WILL eventually manifest. What is dangerous and why the ARGUMENT MUST ENSUE is because a man's beliefs are FORMED by his teachings as a CHILD. If no one were arguing, there would be no teaching. Everything said or stated would then be GOSPEL or FALSE GOSPEL. But ONLY ONE THING WOULD BE...

To NOT ARGUE is to DESTROY FREE WILL....
;)

Now imagine what is destroyed next.... You guessed... SCIENCE... So Ironically if "Science" ever won the arguement - It WOULD DESTROY IT'S SELF....!!!!!!!!!
:D:eek::eek::eek::confused:

Coyne JA. Science, Religion, and Society: The Problem of Evolution in America. Evolution. 2012;66(8):2654-63. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1558-5646.2012.01664.x/full

American resistance to accepting evolution is uniquely high among First World countries. This is due largely to the extreme religiosity of the United States, which is much higher than that of comparably advanced nations, and to the resistance of many religious people to the facts and supposed implications of evolution. The prevalence of religious belief in the United States suggests that outreach by scientists alone will not have a huge effect in increasing the acceptance of evolution, nor will the strategy of trying to convince the faithful that evolution is compatible with their religion. Because creationism is a symptom of religion, another strategy to promote evolution involves loosening the grip of faith on America. This is easier said than done, for recent sociological surveys show that religion is highly correlated with the dysfunctionality of a society, and various measures of societal health show that the United States is one of the most socially dysfunctional First World countries. Widespread acceptance of evolution in America, then, may have to await profound social change.
 
Maybe Paul was a liar, never sat with Jesus, was never a disciple, and went about hijacking Christianity :(. No crucifixion, no resurrection, no trinity; just Paul and his lies :(. I think the Romans liked his ideas though :).

I've seen it postulated that the Romans actively promoted Christianity as a competitor to Judaism - and that they may have even created it... They were very shrewd politically, the Romans.
 
Cruz’s Constant References to Jesus Drive Millions to Atheism

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—The Republican Presidential candidate Ted Cruz’s constant references to Jesus Christ in his speeches and campaign ads are sparking a strong interest in atheism among millions of Americans, atheist leaders report.

Since Sen. Cruz (R-Texas) announced his candidacy two weeks ago with the words “God isn’t done with America yet,” a substantial number of Americans “have begun seriously questioning the existence of God,” said Carol Foyler, the executive director of the American Society of Atheists.


“It’s been amazing,” Foyler said. “We’re getting calls from people who are curious about atheism for the first time in their lives. And when we ask them what got them thinking about it, they all say the same thing: ‘I just heard Ted Cruz talk.’ ”

Foyler said that her group often notices a surge in atheism after natural disasters or other traumatic events that rattle people’s faith, but, she added, “We’ve never seen anything like Ted Cruz.”

After Cruz aired an Easter weekend campaign ad in which he spoke of the transformative power of Christ, Foyler said, “Our phones were ringing off the hook.”

“As an atheist, I naturally don’t believe in the power of Christ to transform people,” she said. “But I definitely believe in the power of Ted Cruz to transform people into atheists.”

Richard Dawkins, the evolutionary biologist and outspoken atheist, said that Cruz’s ability to convert millions to atheism was “nothing short of extraordinary.”

“Ted Cruz has created more atheists in two weeks than I have in decades,” Dawkins said.
 
Signs of Alien Life Will Be Found by 2025, NASA's Chief Scientist Predicts
http://www.space.com/29041-alien-life-evidence-by-2025-nasa.html

Humanity is on the verge of discovering alien life, high-ranking NASA scientists say.

"I think we're going to have strong indications of life beyond Earth within a decade, and I think we're going to have definitive evidence within 20 to 30 years," NASA chief scientist Ellen Stofan said Tuesday (April 7) during a panel discussion that focused on the space agency's efforts to search for habitable worlds and alien life.

"We know where to look. We know how to look," Stofan added during the event, which was webcast live. "In most cases we have the technology, and we're on a path to implementing it. And so I think we're definitely on the road."

Former astronaut John Grunsfeld, associate administrator for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, shared Stofan's optimism, predicting that signs of life will be found relatively soon both in our own solar system and beyond.

"I think we're one generation away in our solar system, whether it's on an icy moon or on Mars, and one generation [away] on a planet around a nearby star," Grunsfeld said during Tuesday's event.
 
Cruz’s Constant References to Jesus Drive Millions to Atheism

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—The Republican Presidential candidate Ted Cruz’s constant references to Jesus Christ in his speeches and campaign ads are sparking a strong interest in atheism among millions of Americans, atheist leaders report.

Since Sen. Cruz (R-Texas) announced his candidacy two weeks ago with the words “God isn’t done with America yet,” a substantial number of Americans “have begun seriously questioning the existence of God,” said Carol Foyler, the executive director of the American Society of Atheists.


“It’s been amazing,” Foyler said. “We’re getting calls from people who are curious about atheism for the first time in their lives. And when we ask them what got them thinking about it, they all say the same thing: ‘I just heard Ted Cruz talk.’ ”

Foyler said that her group often notices a surge in atheism after natural disasters or other traumatic events that rattle people’s faith, but, she added, “We’ve never seen anything like Ted Cruz.”

After Cruz aired an Easter weekend campaign ad in which he spoke of the transformative power of Christ, Foyler said, “Our phones were ringing off the hook.”

“As an atheist, I naturally don’t believe in the power of Christ to transform people,” she said. “But I definitely believe in the power of Ted Cruz to transform people into atheists.”

Richard Dawkins, the evolutionary biologist and outspoken atheist, said that Cruz’s ability to convert millions to atheism was “nothing short of extraordinary.”

“Ted Cruz has created more atheists in two weeks than I have in decades,” Dawkins said.

Borowitz is from Texas!
 
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