Why there almost certainly is No God!!

[Demondosage]

I was never raised in church, I laughed at people who lived by the good book. I mocked people who always asked the Lord for help and never gave 2 shits about going to church to make myself believe I was a good person who would one day go to heaven.

Then I started growing up and things became complicated. I would work for more and acquire more, but it was never fulfilling enough. No matter what I had it never filled a hole in my heart I felt like I was walking around with constantly. Things started to feel wrong in my life.

When I felt like I had noplace else to turn to, when I was down and out and couldn't figure out how to deal with it, I finally walked into church one day and actually listened with an open mind. It felt like the preacher was talking directly to me through the rest of the crowd, it was like he was there just for me.

After that day I had unexplainable things happen to me. I mean crazy stuff that was beyond explanation, all positive things. I started looking for the good in life rather than focusing on the bad. That hole in my heart seemed like it was being filled and I was becoming whole again.

Once you experience these things you may be more open to establishing a relationship with God. The evil in the world is not God ignoring it, it's the lack of God in peoples lives. God doesn't show himself to you until you are open to accepting him and all that is good in life. When you begin to do the work of God and start living for the right reasons you'd be surprised at how much better life gets.

Trust me, I'm the last person you'd ever think would wander into a church lost, looking for help. It has changed my life. I never used to believe in God until things happened like watching the birth of my son. I can remember even as an Atheist praying one day to have a son, and I was blessed with a perfectly healthy son.

God is real if you accept him and he can perform miracles that are totally unexplainable. Just ask yourself one question...has the world gotten any better with the lack of God and faith people now have? The answer is no, but you don't have to live like everyone else either.

If you're ever feeling down and nothing you've done seems to make life fulfilling, just have an open mind and try it, it certainly can't hurt.

 

[ddp7]

@Rook2135

Ok, some expressions were mistranslated, my mistake, I mistranslated them because I wrote quickly. Because you seem genuinely interested in pursuing the debate, I will respond. In any case I did not want to look like an unpleasant intellectual. Let's see. If you are asking me these questions it is because you did not read the document that I name or because you have very little knowledge of these subjects in general. I also warn you that the expression "believe in god " is very worn. If you were a tantradude you would not be interested in talking about god and would like to talk about the goddess or similar. We must recognize the sociological and psychological character of our expressions. I hope I am not writing to an opus dei. The summary, objective and theoretical framework of what I wrote above is said in an incomplete and crude way: The experience of god / goddess / gods is an experience that has a great emotional content more than mental and that is strongly related to restrictions of sexual character (Wilhem Reich would say sexual economy). It is absolutely stupid and ignorant of you to use scholastic or cartesian reasoning to criticize me. In fact you have not criticized anything, you have simply praised your god and even more, it seems that you do not know the great social connection between traditional moral rules and certain theories like darwinism. It's incredible, well but after all darwin was a protestant religious fanatic. It does not surprise me. Cognitive science is helping to get us out of Patriarchy. And this is very important. All of your questions are resolved in the paper. I will also include a new document explaining how unstable materialism is non-reductionist. And please, stop asking me the literal questions that make me crazy. And be honest with what you want to justify a priori. As a methodological annex your question on the measurement of consciousness reminds me that you have never heard of the hard problem of cognitive sciences (precisely scientists such as Varela, Damasio, Maturana, among many others, try to solve the gap between the theoretical description of the consciousness and the experience of the consciousness, here it appears the neurophenomenology, the training in meditation and the essences of bach in my case).

Regs.

 

[ddp7]

Varela F. J. (1996) Neurophenomenology: A Methodological remedy to the hard problem [1893]

 

[Rook2135]

@Rook2135

Ok, some expressions were mistranslated, my mistake, I mistranslated them because I wrote quickly. Because you seem genuinely interested in pursuing the debate, I will respond. In any case I did not want to look like an unpleasant intellectual. Let's see. If you are asking me these questions it is because you did not read the document that I name or because you have very little knowledge of these subjects in general. I also warn you that the expression "believe in god " is very worn. If you were a tantradude you would not be interested in talking about god and would like to talk about the goddess or similar. We must recognize the sociological and psychological character of our expressions. I hope I am not writing to an opus dei. The summary, objective and theoretical framework of what I wrote above is said in an incomplete and crude way: The experience of god / goddess / gods is an experience that has a great emotional content more than mental and that is strongly related to restrictions of sexual character (Wilhem Reich would say sexual economy). It is absolutely stupid and ignorant of you to use scholastic or cartesian reasoning to criticize me. In fact you have not criticized anything, you have simply praised your god and even more, it seems that you do not know the great social connection between traditional moral rules and certain theories like darwinism. It's incredible, well but after all darwin was a protestant religious fanatic. It does not surprise me. Cognitive science is helping to get us out of Patriarchy. And this is very important. All of your questions are resolved in the paper. I will also include a new document explaining how unstable materialism is non-reductionist. And please, stop asking me the literal questions that make me crazy. And be honest with what you want to justify a priori. As a methodological annex your question on the measurement of consciousness reminds me that you have never heard of the hard problem of cognitive sciences (precisely scientists such as Varela, Damasio, Maturana, among many others, try to solve the gap between the theoretical description of the consciousness and the experience of the consciousness, here it appears the neurophenomenology, the training in meditation and the essences of bach in my case).

Regs.

Good job little man. See you are capable of organising your thoughts so that other people, other than your pretend girlfriend can understand. yaayy now wheres your cookie, I knew I letft it somewhere around here. Lol so your not 100 percent a troll, you just genuwinely just believe your ramblings. Good luck buddy, You might be the best theory as to god not being real. How can god allow you to happen??? lol im starting to get you now. haha

 

[ddp7]

You are misunderstanding things. I play in a single league.

"God" is a monopoly of thoughts and a strong constraint on our feelings.

This is indeed the sense of the multiplicity of divinities. Which is certainly a more natural religion.

Wrong again, sexual economy is not about being immoral or becoming a marica lol, it's about awareness about our emotions.

Do some reading.

@Rook2135

 

[Rook2135]

You are misunderstanding things. I play in a single league.

"God" is a monopoly of thoughts and a strong constraint on our feelings.

This is indeed the sense of the multiplicity of divinities. Which is certainly a more natural religion.

Wrong again, sexual economy is not about being immoral or becoming a marica lol, it's about awareness about our emotions.

Do some reading.

@Rook2135

I understand what your saying. Im confused as to why you didnt make any sense in your first post, with no punctuation and a study on male menapause. You didnt set any groundwork or context to anything you said so that people could understand you. You just assumed that everyone should know your obscure authors. Does me not nowing anything about these gentlemen make me ignorant. ? If yes, then I would argue that I could pull a host of names outta my ass of random people and expect you to know about them . This is why your just here, not to make any particular point, but to be a sad troll, comprende?? You like the smell of your own farts. Your not here to edify people with your insight, but to want to impress people with your grand knowlege about some jacks who mean nothing to me. Maybe you should do some reading and learn about basic cumunication and grammar. Im guessing english wasnt your first language so ill give you the benefit of the doubt. Next time you pull out random people and concepts ,give people context as oppossed to being a pompous, little twat who expects that everyone fit his fantasy reality and God forbid if you dont know who your daddies William James, Francisco Varela, Antonio Damasio, Tomas de Aquino. Nobody here knows who your spanish boyfriends are, that doesnt mean we need to read, you troll now GTFO.

 

[Rook2135]

Have someone read this to you very slow little buddy

Your citing random Spanish reasearchers and a random Spanish study of mens menop. Thats retarted to say the least. hahh lol. You know for a so called smart guy you really seem dumb. Oh wait sorry thats not the pc term...... Autistic maybe ?☺

Then again what do I know, if I dont know the great and mighty William James, Francisco Varela, Antonio Damasio, Tomas de Aquino. Fuck me right, everyone knows these guys cuz You Said So. You live in your own little autistic world, with your imaginary gilfriend JLo singing spanish pop songs, telling each other boys stories, holding each other while your nipples get hard as you talk about quantum mechanics and the theory of relativity. Lmao. Fuck otta here with that shit. Go back into your rainbow colored closet, wear your helmet and and have a jerkoff session with your boys William James, Francisco Varela, Antonio Damasio, Tomas de Aquino. hahhaa
But once again we are all Idiots for not knowing your jerkoff buddies right?? lol Its soo ridiculous but I dont think your autistic beain could understand. Its like me quoting some random scientist from russia and posting a russian medical journal cite about butterflies and their effect on cancer, then ramble like a mad man and expect you to know about these guys, while simutaniously trying to fit that to the thread topic. Its English motherfucker, speak English. The forum threads title is
Why there almost certainly is No God!

 

[Rook2135]

Comprende amigo, wait here the title of the thread in spanish is "Porque es casi seguro que noy hay dios". That means that for the remainder of these thread you either make points for this argument or against to which you have done neither. Instead, you wowed ups with your superior cognitive function, and ability to reference random people who nobody on this forum know shit about, oh but fuck me, what am I saying you know the sacred ones

William James, Francisco Varela, Antonio Damasio, Tomas de Aquino.

lol dumbass

Just the fact that I have to explain this to you makes me think your a retard ( is that the pc term) . smh which makes me really sad.

 

[Rook2135]

Also exibit A) I tried to be nice, and im deff not trying to be a stikler , but wtf is this?



"Your answer is interesting. However for me the relevance of believing or not believing in God, is a matter related to moral rules of sexual character. This is a more explicit question in Eastern religions (for example Taoism has its rules, Hinduism for its Part contains the basic moral rules which they call yamas and niyamas, etc.). With regard to the question about the measure of Consciousness I have to criticize you epistemologically. Heidegger would say that the question of measurement is a question related to the need to control, and this is typical of a materialist perspective of science, that is, of reducing science to a physicalist question. Now do not misunderstand me. I do not believe in the new age speech that appeals to quantum physics as a foundation. I am trying to tell you that there is a new option to justify the existence of the sacred. This option has been cultivated by Buddhists for thousands of years; Husserl in his lessons from the phenomenology of the inner consciousness of time; By thepsychologist William James and now by some branches of neuroscience where you find Francisco Varela and Antonio Damasio author of the book "the feeling of what happens." The essential issue is that moral values can be justified without religious or scientificist apriorisms (materialisticphysicalism). This position is called nonreductionist materialism because it attempts to suspend value judgments on matter and then builds itsobservations. It is certainly an unstable but respectful position that builds values and reflects a lot. For last thing Tomas de Aquino is a materialist who tries to grant transcendence to matter (a transcendence that from the phenomenology that I describe has never and will never) motivated by a religious apriorism that is the justification of the Faith. If you want to justify the Faith from a Classical institutional perspective you would have to quote Anselm of Canterburywho is really a spiritual man. I also justify Faith and consider myself to be scientifically spiritual. But in my almost justification occurs a priori and without the need for transcendence. My starting point is the suspension of the trial that you obtain thanks to the training in meditation. But it is notmeditated for religious reasons. It is meditated for pleasure. In fact Buddhists are so aware that they smoke weed to keep their monastic vows (there is documentation). In broad outline my perspective is not dual. If you read Richard Dawkin you will realize that he is dual and certainly does not have a proposal for values. Chopra is the same case but from the new age rubbish. However I use bach essences without new age speech and ,for a example,my T is big (my labs are out there)."



In america , and the rest of the world for that matter we use little points and dots at the end of thoughts and sentences called commas and periods. The are used so that the reader in this case your caretaker, can pause between thoughts and sentences.

We also have space between groups of sentences which are called paragraphs these are used so that the reader in this case your mom can have an organised seperation between arguments and thoughts and create pace so that the reader is not confused as shit.

Did you get all that???
Good somebody deserves a sticker.

Now say swiper no swipey, swiper no swipey. Good job little man your getting it. Now you go nap time

 

[ddp7]

No author of the quoted is "obscure." You are an ignorant and period. The meaning of the first post is to be a paraphrase. The English language is a bad language to describe preverbal phenomena related to phenomenology. The German language is much better because it has a term to describe the experience lived. Read Antonio Damasio in the book "the feeling of what happens". They are all world class authors and many of these authors have worked at MIT. The problem is you're only 26 and you're scared. It is unfortunate the personal attack. It is not a good christian, by the way.

 

[Rook2135]

They may not be obscure in the circle of queers you know but for most of us they are. The personal attack?? Its quite obvious that your autistic since half of what you posted in english would only make sence if rainman translated it to me. Your comunication is inferior and that means your ignorant. Me not knowing who your boyfriends are is because I have a lofe that doesnt involve intelectual orgies with so called enlightened people. Your a joke admmit it. Im 26 and calling you out for being dumb and your ignorance is not fitting for a full grown man. You still havent added anything of value to the topic. Its not a good christian ?? Who is ? Your deff not so why are you judging? The truth is you just sound like you know what you are talking about but you are full of shit.

 

[Rook2135]

Also looking at your other posts on different threads, I can see that you litteraly don add anything of value to the forum. You my friend is what we call a closeted retard. Maybe you should gon on some forum where women discuss their periods. Its because of people like you that caused people to vote for trump. You clearly have no Idea nor give a shit about anyone but yourself, as evidence by how hard you try to get accepted on this forum with dumb posts.

 

[Rook2135]

Look man I really dont want to be disrespectfull and learn from yhe youngest to oldest, good or bad. Give me aome time to get up to speed in the literature you quoted and then we can have a healthy disscussion with no name calling. The problem is when you come in here high and mighty and assume everyone knows what you are talking about. Ill read to some of your friends literature maybe I can learn something new maybe not we will see.

 

[ddp7]

@Rook2135:

Every time you come back to argue your ignorance evidences. Ignorance is simply the fact of not knowing certain information. It is not a valuation judgment towards your person. I'm not saying,for a example, you're a religious fanatic and that makes you ignorant. That would be disgusting of me.
Anyway,from my point of view,you are mistaken. Language is not an objective phenomenon. Each language has a different emotional tone. And if I can not genuinely imply what I mean, it does not make me inferior but different from you.
For the rest you have a very unpleasant and stereotyped conception of autism which is really very cruel. You call me autistic, meaning that I act like a sick person.
I think you should learn to love your own beliefs. Apparently you are a christian or at least a guy who goes to church. Enjoy your damn church lol and leave the others alone. But this is difficult. It is a cognitive paradox for someone who apparently does not want to reflect. Bite the apple, you will not die, my friend. By the way, it is true that my first threads had many bad words, insults and some jokes. But I have presented myself as what I am and also if necessary I could upload my labs that were made by the way in a world class lab, those you see in the books of google books. I apologize for having touched sensitive fibers and I mean it. But I am a free thinker and that is not going to change anyone. I would suggest visiting the psychologist, denotes a rather absurd hate to be an internet debate. Ah and by the way that I am educated does not mean that I am in the right corner or "queer". Those argument is very grotesque and childish and I should hardly discuss it. To treat a topic with seriousness and respect is to have a scientific attitude, it can be any subject.

Regs.

 

[ddp7]

PD.Lo dejo hasta aqui Colega.

 

[Rook2135]

@Rook2135:

Every time you come back to argue your ignorance evidences. Ignorance is simply the fact of not knowing certain information. It is not a valuation judgment towards your person. I'm not saying,for a example, you're a religious fanatic and that makes you ignorant. That would be disgusting of me.
Anyway,from my point of view,you are mistaken. Language is not an objective phenomenon. Each language has a different emotional tone. And if I can not genuinely imply what I mean, it does not make me inferior but different from you.
For the rest you have a very unpleasant and stereotyped conception of autism which is really very cruel. You call me autistic, meaning that I act like a sick person.
I think you should learn to love your own beliefs. Apparently you are a christian or at least a guy who goes to church. Enjoy your damn church lol and leave the others alone. But this is difficult. It is a cognitive paradox for someone who apparently does not want to reflect. Bite the apple, you will not die, my friend. By the way, it is true that my first threads had many bad words, insults and some jokes. But I have presented myself as what I am and also if necessary I could upload my labs that were made by the way in a world class lab, those you see in the books of google books. I apologize for having touched sensitive fibers and I mean it. But I am a free thinker and that is not going to change anyone. I would suggest visiting the psychologist, denotes a rather absurd hate to be an internet debate. Ah and by the way that I am educated does not mean that I am in the right corner or "queer". Those argument is very grotesque and childish and I should hardly discuss it. To treat a topic with seriousness and respect is to have a scientific attitude, it can be any subject.

Regs.

I think I fell asleep halfay through reading this. Btw I think you just really wanted to show off more than anything as opposed to having a good debate or conversation. Instead of naming people and studies that most people have never heard of you could have started with commonalities everyone knows like a normal person. Hence, you like the smell of your own farts, your not here to help anyone but to show you "vast knowledge" of crap. You are a troll and thats why Im treating you like a troll, queer. Suck a dick

 

[ddp7]

ok,you won @Rook2135

 

[Rook2135]

@ddp007 Im not trying to be disrespectful. I just notice a pattern. I lived in SF for 2 years and have met many people just like you. People who think they know it all and very often tend to be homosexuals, which is why many of them are so against God that they make up all this bullshit to feel good about theyre homosexual lifestyle. Now I woulnt want to disrespect the queer comunity, what bothers me is people like you who remain in the closet and annoy the heck outtta everyone. Either way I accept you as a person even though I might not respect your lifestyle choices. Good luck

 

[ddp7]

You really sound like a paranoid speculating about me. The concept of autopoiesis I suppose is also a dark concept for you. You should show more respect for people you do not know.
Ok, what can I write about your personal attacks based on false dilemmas? Nothing. I just want to highlight two things. The first is "faith in god" has killed thousands of hundreds of people and allows to autopoietically reproduce a world enslaved by violence. And the second is the sexuality of women has been repressed to create the concept of god. Hence, cannabis is banned by the conservatives and monetary speculation forms the basis of the financial system we live in (horst kurnitzsky - libidinal economy of the money structure).

All the Best.

 

[ddp7]

@Rook2135