Why there almost certainly is No God!!

To Keep the Faith, Don't Get Analytical
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Shenhav A, Rand DG, Greene JD. Divine intuition: Cognitive style influences belief in God. J Exp Psychol Gen. http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/~jgreene/GreeneWJH/Shenhav-Rand-Greene-JEPG11.pdf

Some have argued that belief in God is intuitive, a natural (by-)product of the human mind given its cognitive structure and social context. If this is true, the extent to which one believes in God may be influenced by one's more general tendency to rely on intuition versus reflection. Three studies support this hypothesis, linking intuitive cognitive style to belief in God. Study 1 showed that individual differences in cognitive style predict belief in God. Participants completed the Cognitive Reflection Test (CRT; Frederick, 2005), which employs math problems that, although easily solvable, have intuitively compelling incorrect answers. Participants who gave more intuitive answers on the CRT reported stronger belief in God. This effect was not mediated by education level, income, political orientation, or other demographic variables. Study 2 showed that the correlation between CRT scores and belief in God also holds when cognitive ability (IQ) and aspects of personality were controlled. Moreover, both studies demonstrated that intuitive CRT responses predicted the degree to which individuals reported having strengthened their belief in God since childhood, but not their familial religiosity during childhood, suggesting a causal relationship between cognitive style and change in belief over time. Study 3 revealed such a causal relationship over the short term: Experimentally inducing a mindset that favors intuition over reflection increases self-reported belief in God.


Gervais WM, Norenzayan A. Analytic Thinking Promotes Religious Disbelief. Science 2012;336(6080):493-6. Analytic Thinking Promotes Religious Disbelief

Scientific interest in the cognitive underpinnings of religious belief has grown in recent years. However, to date, little experimental research has focused on the cognitive processes that may promote religious disbelief. The present studies apply a dual-process model of cognitive processing to this problem, testing the hypothesis that analytic processing promotes religious disbelief. Individual differences in the tendency to analytically override initially flawed intuitions in reasoning were associated with increased religious disbelief. Four additional experiments provided evidence of causation, as subtle manipulations known to trigger analytic processing also encouraged religious disbelief. Combined, these studies indicate that analytic processing is one factor (presumably among several) that promotes religious disbelief. Although these findings do not speak directly to conversations about the inherent rationality, value, or truth of religious beliefs, they illuminate one cognitive factor that may influence such discussions.
 
Carbonaceous chondrites (CC) are asteroidal meteorites containing organic materials as diverse as kerogen-like macromolecules and soluble biomolecular analogs such as amino acids. Because the resources, means, and environments by which life emerged are utterly unknown, the evidence from meteorites of an active cosmochemical evolution of the biogenic elements has raised questions of a possible exobiology, i.e., of whether the molecular evolution that led to Earth life was aided by exogenous biomolecule precursors.


Pizzarello S, Williams LB, Lehman J, Holland GP, Yarger JL. Abundant ammonia in primitive asteroids and the case for a possible exobiology. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 2012;108(11):4303-6. Abundant ammonia in primitive asteroids and the case for a possible exobiology

Carbonaceous chondrites are asteroidal meteorites that contain abundant organic materials. Given that meteorites and comets have reached the Earth since it formed, it has been proposed that the exogenous influx from these bodies provided the organic inventories necessary for the emergence of life. The carbonaceous meteorites of the Renazzo-type family (CR) have recently revealed a composition that is particularly enriched in small soluble organic molecules, such as the amino acids glycine and alanine, which could support this possibility. We have now analyzed the insoluble and the largest organic component of the CR2 Grave Nunataks (GRA) 95229 meteorite and found it to be of more primitive composition than in other meteorites and to release abundant free ammonia upon hydrothermal treatment. The findings appear to trace CR2 meteorites’ origin to cosmochemical regimes where ammonia was pervasive, and we speculate that their delivery to the early Earth could have fostered prebiotic molecular evolution.
 
To Keep the Faith, Don't Get Analytical
To Keep the Faith, Don't Get Analytical - ScienceNOW


Shenhav A, Rand DG, Greene JD. Divine intuition: Cognitive style influences belief in God. J Exp Psychol Gen. http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/~jgreene/GreeneWJH/Shenhav-Rand-Greene-JEPG11.pdf

Some have argued that belief in God is intuitive, a natural (by-)product of the human mind given its cognitive structure and social context. If this is true, the extent to which one believes in God may be influenced by one's more general tendency to rely on intuition versus reflection. Three studies support this hypothesis, linking intuitive cognitive style to belief in God. Study 1 showed that individual differences in cognitive style predict belief in God. Participants completed the Cognitive Reflection Test (CRT; Frederick, 2005), which employs math problems that, although easily solvable, have intuitively compelling incorrect answers. Participants who gave more intuitive answers on the CRT reported stronger belief in God. This effect was not mediated by education level, income, political orientation, or other demographic variables. Study 2 showed that the correlation between CRT scores and belief in God also holds when cognitive ability (IQ) and aspects of personality were controlled. Moreover, both studies demonstrated that intuitive CRT responses predicted the degree to which individuals reported having strengthened their belief in God since childhood, but not their familial religiosity during childhood, suggesting a causal relationship between cognitive style and change in belief over time. Study 3 revealed such a causal relationship over the short term: Experimentally inducing a mindset that favors intuition over reflection increases self-reported belief in God.


Gervais WM, Norenzayan A. Analytic Thinking Promotes Religious Disbelief. Science 2012;336(6080):493-6. Analytic Thinking Promotes Religious Disbelief

Scientific interest in the cognitive underpinnings of religious belief has grown in recent years. However, to date, little experimental research has focused on the cognitive processes that may promote religious disbelief. The present studies apply a dual-process model of cognitive processing to this problem, testing the hypothesis that analytic processing promotes religious disbelief. Individual differences in the tendency to analytically override initially flawed intuitions in reasoning were associated with increased religious disbelief. Four additional experiments provided evidence of causation, as subtle manipulations known to trigger analytic processing also encouraged religious disbelief. Combined, these studies indicate that analytic processing is one factor (presumably among several) that promotes religious disbelief. Although these findings do not speak directly to conversations about the inherent rationality, value, or truth of religious beliefs, they illuminate one cognitive factor that may influence such discussions.

so its something you feel maybe, as opposed to really knowing. or maybe you know in your heart, or your heart of hearts. because the existence of god seems to be impossible to prove or disprove. and if god is a part of me, and im a part of god, what am i trying to prove. and how would i do that anyway. it would take an outside observer. sometimes you just have to look inside.
that may be best. a more analytical mind might try to find god and put him (or her) on a table and probe and dissect. gross. some wonder to the world fuels imagination.
 
Carbonaceous chondrites (CC) are asteroidal meteorites containing organic materials as diverse as kerogen-like macromolecules and soluble biomolecular analogs such as amino acids. Because the resources, means, and environments by which life emerged are utterly unknown, the evidence from meteorites of an active cosmochemical evolution of the biogenic elements has raised questions of a possible exobiology, i.e., of whether the molecular evolution that led to Earth life was aided by exogenous biomolecule precursors.


Pizzarello S, Williams LB, Lehman J, Holland GP, Yarger JL. Abundant ammonia in primitive asteroids and the case for a possible exobiology. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 2012;108(11):4303-6. Abundant ammonia in primitive asteroids and the case for a possible exobiology

Carbonaceous chondrites are asteroidal meteorites that contain abundant organic materials. Given that meteorites and comets have reached the Earth since it formed, it has been proposed that the exogenous influx from these bodies provided the organic inventories necessary for the emergence of life. The carbonaceous meteorites of the Renazzo-type family (CR) have recently revealed a composition that is particularly enriched in small soluble organic molecules, such as the amino acids glycine and alanine, which could support this possibility. We have now analyzed the insoluble and the largest organic component of the CR2 Grave Nunataks (GRA) 95229 meteorite and found it to be of more primitive composition than in other meteorites and to release abundant free ammonia upon hydrothermal treatment. The findings appear to trace CR2 meteorites’ origin to cosmochemical regimes where ammonia was pervasive, and we speculate that their delivery to the early Earth could have fostered prebiotic molecular evolution.

interesting. i also read that if the dinosaurs were extict by a giant meteorite, the blast may have thrown out some dino dna into space. if that lands and develops on another planet, if humans were able to reach one, we might be greeted by some. things like atmosphere and gravity could change how and what they devolop into. but they would be related. as we all seem to be.
 
God particle is 'found': Scientists at Cern expected to announce on Wednesday Higgs boson particle has been discovered
God particle is 'found': Scientists at Cern expected to announce Higgs boson particle has been discovered on Wednesday | Mail Online

Scientists at Cern will announce that the elusive Higgs boson 'God Particle' has been found at a press conference next week, it is believed.

Five leading theoretical physicists have been invited to the event on Wednesday - sparking speculation that the particle has been discovered.

Scientists at the Large Hadron Collider are expected to say they are 99.99 per cent certain it has been found - which is known as 'four sigma' level.
 
COMPLETELY DISAGREE ON THERE NOT BEING A GOD!!!!! ITS CALLED FAITH! UNLESS ANY OF YOU WERE HERE IN THE BEGINNING AND HAVE VIDEO AND PHOTOS TO BACK IT UP YOU HAVE NO CLUE OR RIGHT TO WHAT HAPPENED!!!!! I believein the your way my way method. If there is no God then I went to church adn helped people out and didnt drink or smoke so I had a whole loving family and true friends and purpose in life and then I die and there is no God. Who did I hurt and what harm did I do!? Now what if I am right and you are wrong and when you die there is a God????;)
 
COMPLETELY DISAGREE ON THERE NOT BEING A GOD!!!!! ITS CALLED FAITH! UNLESS ANY OF YOU WERE HERE IN THE BEGINNING AND HAVE VIDEO AND PHOTOS TO BACK IT UP YOU HAVE NO CLUE OR RIGHT TO WHAT HAPPENED!!!!! I believein the your way my way method. If there is no God then I went to church adn helped people out and didnt drink or smoke so I had a whole loving family and true friends and purpose in life and then I die and there is no God. Who did I hurt and what harm did I do!? Now what if I am right and you are wrong and when you die there is a God????;)

You are absolutely correct BB. I might have even said the same thing in this thread sometime back.The theory is to error on the God side, so to speak. Although my faith and my heart and mind tell me there really is a God in Heaven. The Bible tells me so.

I was just thinking, I wonder, in the last 50 years, how many books, how many videos, how many research papers have been written|made to disprove God...WHY?? If you dont believe there is a god, so be it, what are you trying to prove? Dont believe! That's your God given right! :) My God given right is to believe He made creation, is real, lives in me, and exists in a big way! :)
 
Well, if you believe there is a GOD as far as
the holy trinity goes, your fucked anyway and
you can thank Adam and Eve for that one.
Life is in the blood and we are all going to hell.

Now if you believe in GOD being the Unconscious Mind
or better known as The Universal Intelligence, like I do, then
your good to go, cause then you will realize GOD helps those
who help themselves, which basically means, we help ourselves when
we help ourselves :drooling:

“There is a beast in man that needs to be exercised, not exorcised.”
Anton LaVey
 
Im with you al the way!


You are absolutely correct BB. I might have even said the same thing in this thread sometime back.The theory is to error on the God side, so to speak. Although my faith and my heart and mind tell me there really is a God in Heaven. The Bible tells me so.

I was just thinking, I wonder, in the last 50 years, how many books, how many videos, how many research papers have been written|made to disprove God...WHY?? If you dont believe there is a god, so be it, what are you trying to prove? Dont believe! That's your God given right! :) My God given right is to believe He made creation, is real, lives in me, and exists in a big way! :)
 
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Adam and Eve did sin and broke the eternal grace. BUT God also forgave them and came to die for that very purpose. So that people had a way to get into heaven. If you believe that Adam and Eve sent all to hell its wrong doctrine. Romans 5:12 does say that all have sinned and by ones man sin death entered into the world and all will suffer death. BUT! Romans 5:8 says the wages of sin are death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus. You are correct that due to Adam death and sin came upon allen but NOT that all will pay and dies in hell for it. Romans 10:9 is your verse for proof. It states that if any man shall believe in there heart that God was raised from the dead and confess it with there mouth they SHALL be saved. And of course the most well known verse of John 3:16. Also most believe if they are a good person or do good things they will go to heaven but they really need to read Ephesans 8-9 and mathew chapter 7 verse 21-23. Anyone who reads these who believes in God should sit down because it will knock them over!


Well, if you believe there is a GOD as far as
the holy trinity goes, your fucked anyway and
you can thank Adam and Eve for that one.
Life is in the blood and we are all going to hell.

Now if you believe in GOD being the Unconscious Mind
or better known as The Universal Intelligence, like I do, then
your good to go, cause then you will realize GOD helps those
who help themselves, which basically means, we help ourselves when
we help ourselves :drooling:

“There is a beast in man that needs to be exercised, not exorcised.”
Anton LaVey
 
I don't judge anyone or their beliefs.
I just believe what makes more sense
from experience

My god can never hurt me, unless I let it.
It doesn't judge, it doesn't rule, it's like a big
computer with all the answers saying:
"Here I am, use me as you wish .. but if
you break me, I don't want to hear about it."

I believe if I do good, then good will come
back to me, and if I do bad.. well, then someone
must have just had it coming :D

I believe the kingdom of heaven is within all of us
just how we interpret heaven and god are different.

It all comes down to BELIEF ..

The kingdom of heaven can be in a rock
for those who wish to believe it.. I mean a nice
looking rock, not just any ole beach rock.. come on now
 
I don't judge anyone or their beliefs.
I just believe what makes more sense
from experience

My god can never hurt me, unless I let it.
It doesn't judge, it doesn't rule, it's like a big
computer with all the answers saying:
"Here I am, use me as you wish .. but if
you break me, I don't want to hear about it."

I believe if I do good, then good will come
back to me, and if I do bad.. well, then someone
must have just had it coming :D

I believe the kingdom of heaven is within all of us
just how we interpret heaven and god are different.

It all comes down to BELIEF ..

The kingdom of heaven can be in a rock
for those who wish to believe it.. I mean a nice
looking rock, not just any ole beach rock.. come on now
i kind of do, if one believes something that has merely been told and passed on with zero evidence, then one is pretty fucking ignorant........[:o)]
 
Well of course there is a bit of ignorance there
and until GOD comes down from the heavens and
says:
"Hey, what's up you dirty little peasants, here
is how everything went down with my son, his friend
Joseph, and his Shorty Mary, way back in the desert"

There will always be a Lack Of Knowledge there
 
When you're in court, and they ask you to 'swear to the truth' how many people have you seen put their hand on and 'swear' on a comic book???

Yes, that is true..

Besides, it would be a Superman comic book
not a Spiderman. .. I mean really
 
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