Wunderpus' get bigger cycle

Im trying to figure out why anyone would add tren on top of tren ? Thats all ? Why ?
^^^^ Thanks , I got my answer ....:confused:
I'm not sure if the little face is some sort of sarcastic response or not. At some point, this has to die. I don't feel the need to defend this eternally, and it FUCKING pisses me off that it's from someone like yourself who I hold at a higher level of respect than just any member here. Bummer.
 
I'm not sure if the little face is some sort of sarcastic response or not. At some point, this has to die. I don't feel the need to defend this eternally, and it FUCKING pisses me off that it's from someone like yourself who I hold at a higher level of respect than just any member here. Bummer.

Actually that lil face is me . Still confused . But I"ll get over it . Sorry for the rant , its been a beauty of a morning , I shouldnt be anywhere near a computer right now ....Peaceout & signing out ~Ogh
 
Bad day . Made worse by idiotic cycles disguised as normal . When did 3 gram/wk cycles become normal ?
Since when did insulting someone in their own cycle log decide to not be classified as idiotic disrespect? Come on ogh- you don't like dosages start a thread about them and your personal feelings. Walking into a guy's house and wiping shit off your feet on his carpet is totally classless. Cycle logs are hallowed ground- much like your foodie thread.
 
They became normal when beginner cycles became insufficient.

Im trying to figure out why anyone would add tren on top of tren ? Thats all . Why ?

I respect @Wunderpus and what he does. He is a good member and knows a lot. @Oregongearhead Mad love for you too bro. Why you dissing on a bro for what he is running? 3 gram a week aint shit to some dudes especially pros. This game is trial and error. This log with someone running 3 grams a week is vital to the future of steroid use as it serves as a tiny piece of research of the effects of that high of a dosage. And adding tren base ontop of regular tren aint nothing but a quick and sudden pulse of what is already in the blood stream. No hard feeling brother. I love ya. If wunderpus can handle it, then by god lets check it out.
 
I respect @Wunderpus and what he does. He is a good member and knows a lot. @Oregongearhead Mad love for you too bro. Why you dissing on a bro for what he is running? 3 gram a week aint shit to some dudes especially pros. This game is trial and error. This log with someone running 3 grams a week is vital to the future of steroid use as it serves as a tiny piece of research of the effects of that high of a dosage. And adding tren base ontop of regular tren aint nothing but a quick and sudden pulse of what is already in the blood stream. No hard feeling brother. I love ya. If wunderpus can handle it, then by god lets check it out.
That's part of the idea. I'm no martyr or hero, but not too long ago I would've loved to have read some dude's honest log about running shit like this! Hard to find, so I'll do it myself. We're largely lied to and told you only need 500mg's of test or whatever, and you'll keep growing. Brutus is a great example of what hard work and dieting with low-ish levels of gear can attain.

I more or less reached my peak a while ago, and this is opening new doors. Not kicking in anyone else's doors, mind you, just my own.

I hope OGH was having a bad day and had a bone to pick, I can take it .


Anyway, it's off to back day boys. Got my pre workout and Pedialyte. No tren base today, just for you OGH :)
 
Since when did insulting someone in their own cycle log decide to not be classified as idiotic disrespect? Come on ogh- you don't like dosages start a thread about them and your personal feelings. Walking into a guy's house and wiping shit off your feet on his carpet is totally classless. Cycle logs are hallowed ground- much like your foodie thread.
I respect @Wunderpus and what he does. He is a good member and knows a lot. @Oregongearhead Mad love for you too bro. Why you dissing on a bro for what he is running? 3 gram a week aint shit to some dudes especially pros. This game is trial and error. This log with someone running 3 grams a week is vital to the future of steroid use as it serves as a tiny piece of research of the effects of that high of a dosage. And adding tren base ontop of regular tren aint nothing but a quick and sudden pulse of what is already in the blood stream. No hard feeling brother. I love ya. If wunderpus can handle it, then by god lets check it out.


I totally agree with both of you and apologize to Wunderpus for my outburst this morning , dont know why that set me off that way . A mans log is sacred. Goodluck on your cycle Wunder ; Ive had some bad stuff come up in 24 hrs and I will be gone a while. Will talk later . :D ~Ogh
 
I totally agree with both of you and apologize to Wunderpus for my outburst this morning , dont know why that set me off that way . A mans log is sacred. Goodluck on your cycle Wunder ; Ive had some bad stuff come up in 24 hrs and I will be gone a while. Will talk later . :D ~Ogh
Takes a bigger man to be humble and admit he was wrong, than to be a dick. We're cool. We always were, and that's what through me off.

Glad I mean enough to you, that I can set you off ;)
 
I totally agree with both of you and apologize to Wunderpus for my outburst this morning , dont know why that set me off that way . A mans log is sacred. Goodluck on your cycle Wunder ; Ive had some bad stuff come up in 24 hrs and I will be gone a while. Will talk later . :D ~Ogh
Hope everything is alright OG. Stay up brother.
 
**UPDATE**

Friends, brothers and sisters I suppose I owe you and update (not sure WHO actually reads this).

Let's get started with the gear changes and dosages:

1,250MG's/week of Test E (Pharmacom Darius)
1000MG's/week EQ (Pharmacom Darius)
750MG's/week Component Brewed Tren A
50MG's/Day of Winstrol Depot
50MG's/Day of Tren Base on 'hard' training days (more on this later)

Physiologically this has been a RAPID change. Some would argue to cut you should lower your test. Well, I have almost always had the opposite response. If E2 is properly controlled and diet is clean, 'bloat' from test has never been an issue for me. I am currently a little lower on calories than I was when using the Deca over the tren, for many reasons, mainly the appetite suppression. I have been force feeding myself at least once a day, it's been a little rough. Sitting at the dining room table with your girl and gagging on some chicken (I need some new recipes for chicken, guys!) isn't ideal. Cut, love winny depot or hate it, the changes it makes in your physique are quite impressive. It hurts, but this is my first time running winny in oil, and I will continue to run that in the future.

Tren base, wow, what else can I say? I'm not sure this is a compound that's suited for everyone. It made me mad, irritable, strong, motivated and just about every other tren side all at the same time, within 45 minutes. I would get pissed at the weights and want to either quit, and rep out until I couldn't move. It was a weird feeling, this'll take some time to figure out dosing and mental state while using it. Not for everyone, seriously. I tried taking it with some TNE, could hardly notice the TNE, if at all. Previously, the TNE was strong and obvious, the tren base eclipses it by a longshot. I was expecting it to have a rapid effect on my cardio, however I seemed unaffected. Also, it made me REALLY hungry, which surprised me for tren.

Another thing I've started doing for the past week or so is adding Pedialyte to my pre, intra and post workout regimen. Not a ton, but the electrolytes and pre-biotics serve their purpose. The strawberry is pretty good.

Weight is surprisingly the same, hovering around 232-234, but holy shit I look a lot different. Striations are really coming in on my chest and traps, and well as veins popping on my quads. I'm still not entirely sure how are why my weight hasn't changed, but I am not upset with it, at all.

Training has been stupid levels of volume. I am learning I respond best to that, except for my biceps and shoulders, who knows? Shoulders seem to grow the best with some heavy weight and minimal reps/sets. Bi's I need to apply both, a heavy day and a volume day. I suppose there isn't a "one size fits all" plan for all muscle groups or all people. I always encourage people to keep adapting and changing. What may work for your quads, won't necessarily work for your buddy's lagging biceps...



I think you have room for more AAS ;)
 
**Update**

Holy strength gains, Batman!

Yesterday was back day. I'm not sure if I hit the golden ratio of nutrition, intensity, drugs or what... But I have been strong as FUCK the past 3 or so days. I am sure the winny depot is helping! After using winny in oil, I'm not sure why anyone would use water based, what a difference....

After training back my lats were so pumped and veiny, it felt like I was looking at someone else in the mirror. It was a weird feeling. I'm not used to changing THIS fast. I am up around 10 lbs or so when I started on May 18th, however I have lost a considerable amount of BF and put on some serious lean mass. Appetite has been great the past few days, I'm wondering if the deca and the tren together were really killing my appetite?

My mood has been really good lately, I'm wondering if I'm one of the people that deca negatively impacts their mood?

Either way, things are good! Back day was killer, I was more or less following CagedFreak's protocol from AB. I am a big believer in volume training for back.
 
@Wunderpus, u handled all inquiries into ur dosages with respect and supported UR use with solid verbal ninja skills. My respect for u has grown, no bs!

It is clear that wunderpus IS NOT advising that anyone clone his cycle decisions, the same way I advise others not train like me, it will only result in hulking size and retard strength to go with it[emoji123]
 
@Wunderpus, u handled all inquiries into ur dosages with respect and supported UR use with solid verbal ninja skills. My respect for u has grown, no bs!

It is clear that wunderpus IS NOT advising that anyone clone his cycle decisions, the same way I advise others not train like me, it will only result in hulking size and retard strength to go with it[emoji123]
Thank you, Casca. You know, people keep logs for various reasons. To me, it's a good way to learn about myself and for others to maybe pick up a thing or two. I don't condone this practice... However, if someone is dead set on doing it, I'd like to be able to help them learn from my trials and errors.
 
I enjoyed the first cycle I ran after being inside for 4 yrs and 4 months. The cycle I was on in 2007 was moderate. It was halted abruptly and I'm not sure how long it took for me to get right back then.
While I was inside I did countless burpees, pull ups, dips, and push ups. When I was released I jumped on about 800mg/test E/ew...1 gram of EQ/ew....and about 1200mg of a mix of Tren E and Tren Hex. The last 4 weeks of those high(for me) doses I also had 50mg/winny tabs/ed. I was also on 4iu's of serostim.
The wheezing had me drop the tren E after about 2 weeks. I was hurting. Was looking at some old pics. Here is 6 months to the door.....
By the way, I've been lurking in your thread wunder....thanks for the shelter.


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I enjoyed the first cycle I ran after being inside for 4 yrs and 4 months. The cycle I was on in 2007 was moderate. It was halted abruptly and I'm not sure how long it took for me to get right back then.
While I was inside I did countless burpees, pull ups, dips, and push ups. When I was released I jumped on about 800mg/test E/ew...1 gram of EQ/ew....and about 1200mg of a mix of Tren E and Tren Hex. The last 4 weeks of those high(for me) doses I also had 50mg/winny tabs/ed. I was also on 4iu's of serostim.
The wheezing had me drop the tren E after about 2 weeks. I was hurting. Was looking at some old pics. Here is 6 months to the door.....
By the way, I've been lurking in your thread wunder....thanks for the shelter.


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Something magic happens with tren, test and EQ Ben, not sure what, it just does. Winny brought it to the next levels. Thinking of chucking in some proviron for SHBG reduction (is that still a thing??).

You're always welcome on any of my threads, you know that :)
 
winstol is my bread and butter, love it period. Any DHT really but winny is cheap, consistent quality and always does great things for my strength and physique. Was it just the PIP that you didn't care for with the suspension?
 
winstol is my bread and butter, love it period. Any DHT really but winny is cheap, consistent quality and always does great things for my strength and physique. Was it just the PIP that you didn't care for with the suspension?
Yeah, and in general I prefer oil based stuff. The oil winny depot is awesome.
 
***Update***

I'm not sure really what is going on, but I am waking up feeling GREAT the past few days. Normally the 5am drag gets to me and the tren-somnia is normally a real motherfucker. However, sleep has actually been pretty good on this tren run (the dreams have been beyond insane and somewhat intolerable, though).

@Ozzy619 asked what I do for a routine, so I'll post the loose plan for chest day today, give me your thoughts-

4 sets on flat bench until failure (probably do 225 today, as last week was heavy), superset with DB flys 'till failure (more or less 12 reps)

4 sets on incline bench until failure , superset with incline DB flys 'till failure (same rep ranges or so)

4 sets of 20 reps incline hammer strength, 45 sec rest or so. On the fourth set, drop set

Pec deck flys- 1 set each of 12, 10, 8 and 6 reps

Flat bench hammer strength- same deal as incline, 4 sets of 20, drop on 4th

Cable crossovers- 1 set each 12, 10, 8, 6 and 1 giant set at (3 drops)

Bodyweight dips- at this point 15-17 reps would be sufficient in my mind, 3 sets

Wide bench hammer- 4 sets of heavy 8 or so reps, 1 drop

Always slow and controlled movements, squeezing the muscle, no bouncing or anything like that.

This workout was largely taken from Caged Freak at AB, so credit is due here. I modified it a bit, but it gives me a retarded pump.
 
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