Wunderpus' get bigger cycle

[growing55]

Ladies and gents, I suppose it's time to make a log

228lb's this morning
Seemingly worthless electronic BF scale in my bathroom says 11.8%, I'm not buying it. I'd say probably 15% or so. Normally leaner this time of year, but I had some hiccups with my tren A source, so the cut didn't go exactly as planned.

I've been running NPP, test P, test E and EQ to get to saturation levels for the last 3 weeks.
Planning to phase out the short esters (NPP and Test P) for Pharmacom's Deca 300 and Test E 300
Compounds in RED TEXT are from Darius

Cycle will look like this-
Deca @ 800mg's/week
Test E @ 1050mg's/week (which actually is about 735 of actual test)
Test P @ 350mg's/week (which is roughly 280mg's)
EQ @ 800mg's/week
Winstol Depot (a local buddy of mine gave me two vials, wouldn't normally add this) 50mg's/day
Adex .5mg's/ day
I have clen on hand incase I get too soft, but I'm thinking the winny and adex should prevent that

Diet is roughly 400 grams of protein a day.
Carbs will be cycled as needed, mostly high on training days before and after training.
Fats will vary, mostly animal fats. Some MCT oil pre-workout, and my omega capsules.

I wouldn't expect this to get exciting for a few weeks, many long estered compounds.

However, the NPP and test P have already been kicking ass, looking fuller and joints feel GREAT (NPP and test P ARE NOT FROM DARIUS)

Muscles will be worked every 4 days. 1 training session will be high volume, drop sets, etc etc. the other will be largely heavy weight/strength building exercises.

Cardio 3x week, standard 20-30 minutes on the stairmaster or incline treadmill, nothing crazy here. Just looking to not lose a TON of definition in the process.

@brutus79 this is for you baby! You said I "better make a log"

It would be interesting to know how you cycle getting this much mg's into your body?
most places can only take 2ml at a time so do you need to pick like 6 sites to use per time? and do you break it down to more than a 2x per week?
I am currently just over 1000 per wk but want to move it up and this is one thing that's really hard to read up on.

 

[Wunderpus]

It would be interesting to know how you cycle getting this much mg's into your body?
most places can only take 2ml at a time so do you need to pick like 6 sites to use per time? and do you break it down to more than a 2x per week?
I am currently just over 1000 per wk but want to move it up and this is one thing that's really hard to read up on.

It's 3cc's or more a day. I put 3ccs in all spots but my quads, those are 2-2.5 MAX.

 

[Mr.B66]

If it's a full leg day, include some other movements too. This is for my leg "pump" day. Start with the quad stuff, to pre-exhaust them if they're lagging. If you only do legs 1x a week, just do this 2x a month, you should still get your regular full leg workouts in too.

Got it , so after this i should still hit squats as usual.
Thanks again Wunder!!

 

[Wunderpus]

Got it , so after this i should still hit squats as usual.
Thanks again Wunder!!

Or leg press. If you do these front squats, I'd do the leg press with a wide and high foot placement.

 

[DOMS4DAYS]

WP I got some questions for you brother! I'm a big mountain dog training fan myself have been pondering these questions for a while. Questions I would love to ask John but you may know the answers. I am using one of his programs now and have had good success with them in the past as well.

On back day Johns finisher is usually a banded hyperextension. How do you think he would feel about finishing with a deadlift or RP instead (I know sometimes he finishes with RP)?

Also if you follow his additional pump days you could really hit arms like three times a week. For example you could hit triceps on chest day, arm day, and chest/shoulder pump day. If arms are lagging you think he would recommend this?

One more, have you tried hitting 7 days a week is recovery and supps are spot on or is this too much work for CNS? For example: legs, chest/shoulder/tricep, back/bicep, arms, chest/shoulder, pump, back pump, leg pump.

 

[Wunderpus]

WP I got some questions for you brother! I'm a big mountain dog training fan myself have been pondering these questions for a while. Questions I would love to ask John but you may know the answers. I am using one of his programs now and have had good success with them in the past as well.

On back day Johns finisher is usually a banded hyperextension. How do you think he would feel about finishing with a deadlift or RP instead (I know sometimes he finishes with RP)?

Also if you follow his additional pump days you could really hit arms like three times a week. For example you could hit triceps on chest day, arm day, and chest/shoulder pump day. If arms are lagging you think he would recommend this?

One more, have you tried hitting 7 days a week is recovery and supps are spot on or is this too much work for CNS? For example: legs, chest/shoulder/tricep, back/bicep, arms, chest/shoulder, pump, back pump, leg pump.

On the hyperextensions- I think they are completely different than DL's/RP's. The constant tension of a band, as well as the rep range, is very different than lifting the weights. I suppose a banded and light DL/RP would replicate is closely, but still not close enough IMO. It's a lot like comparing a DB fly to a cable fly, the cable keeps constant tension throughout the lift, and it's a lot more forgiving if you deviate a bit with form.

Yes, I certainly add the additional days, here's how I break down my week-

Sat- Heavy chest and shoulders
Sun- Heavy legs
Mon- Heavy back
Tues- Heavy Arms
Wed- Leg pump
Thu- Chest and shoulder pump + tris
Fri- Back + bi pump

So, yes I have been hitting it 7x a week or so, sometimes I just can't make it for various reasons... Most weeks it's 7x, which is COMPLETELY taxing when you're in a caloric and carb deficit....

I might cut it down to 6x a week for a bit, I'm just beat up feeling...

 

[Mr.B66]

Headed to the gym to give this leg WO a go, super stoked for sure[emoji41]


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[Wunderpus]

Headed to the gym to give this leg WO a go, super stoked for sure[emoji41]


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Good luck! Looking forward to hearing how it goes!

 

[Mr.B66]

If it's a full leg day, include some other movements too. This is for my leg "pump" day. Start with the quad stuff, to pre-exhaust them if they're lagging. If you only do legs 1x a week, just do this 2x a month, you should still get your regular full leg workouts in too.

Well that was an insane pump. Couldnt believe how light i had to go on the 20 rep 2 sec pause sets. My quads were on fire, made me realize the reason my legs lag a bit is because i need to train them alot harder. This WO kicked my ass. The second 3 sets of extensions were great to, but i didnt superset with sissy squats i did reverse hack squats instead, loved it. Finished off with 6 sets of leg press, adding weight every set. And of course hammy's after that.
What a great WO, best pump i have ever had in my quads.
Thank you Wunder, i REALLY Appreciate you sharing this and every other WO you have shared. Of course tomorrow my legs might not be so grateful lol!!!!

 

[Wunderpus]

Well that was an insane pump. Couldnt believe how light i had to go on the 20 rep 2 sec pause sets. My quads were on fire, made me realize the reason my legs lag a bit is because i need to train them alot harder. This WO kicked my ass. The second 3 sets of extensions were great to, but i didnt superset with sissy squats i did reverse hack squats instead, loved it. Finished off with 6 sets of leg press, adding weight every set. And of course hammy's after that.
What a great WO, best pump i have ever had in my quads.
Thank you Wunder, i REALLY Appreciate you sharing this and every other WO you have shared. Of course tomorrow my legs might not be so grateful lol!!!!

That makes my little heart feel so special to read <3 !

I did legs today... When you're ready, you'll like this one.

 

[Mr.B66]

That makes my little heart feel so special to read <3 !

I did legs today... When you're ready, you'll like this one.

Lets see it , im ready to take it up a cpl notches!!

 

[Wunderpus]

Lets see it , im ready to take it up a cpl notches!!

I'll write it up in the morning

 

[Devika]

I got a quad one for you buddy! This shit 1x a week had made my quads BLOW up. I still do a heavy leg day too, but my quads were WAY behind my hammies before I started doing this-

First do leg extensions. Once you are warmed up, you will be doing 6 sets. Your first 3 sets will be done with your toes pointed back toward you to emphasize upper thigh (rectus femoris). Your next 3 sets will be done with your toes pointed down to emphasize lower thighs (Vastus medialis).

Set #1 – Do 20 with a 2 second pause at the top flexing.
Set #2 – Add weight and do 20 with a 1 second flex at the top.
Set #3 – Add weight and just do a quick flex at the top with no hold.
Sets 4-6 – Just pump all these. Add a little more weight to what you did in set 3 and stay there. If you have a sissy squat "accessory" (or whatever the fuck you call that thing) super set that last 3 sets with sissy squats, holding a plate, to failure.

Next either do front squats or narrow and low foot placement leg press (hits the quads way better). I work up to sets of 12 until I can't get 12 anymore.

Throw in SOME sort of hamstring curl variation just to keep them in the game, I do 4 sets of 15 on something.

If you have it in your, do 4 sets per leg of 15 Bulgarian split squats. Some days I do, some days I do not...

I ALWAYS hit calves after this lift.

Thank you for that tip on leg ext.
I'm gonna try it next time I hit legs!

 

[Wunderpus]

Lets see it , im ready to take it up a cpl notches!!

Okay, here we go-

Lying leg curl- 3 sets of 15 to warmup. Then, 3 sets of 10, make sure to leave 1 or 2 reps in the tank for these 10. On your 4th set, do your 10, then drop the weight and do 8, drop again and shoot for 10. On the bottom of the 10th rep move the weight about 1/4 of the way up and hold it in place for 10 seconds.

Leg press- Work your way up to a hard set of 8. So, do 8 reps of 2 plates, 8 reps of 4 plates, etc. until you hit your 8 rep max.

Supersetted with

Smith squats- Feet out in front, controlled reps w/ a 3 second decent. Do NOT fire out of the bottom here, keep the same tempo. Do 8 reps, scale up like the leg press. These will burn like fire, i promise.

Do 4 rounds of this superset once you reach that 8 rep max.


Walking lunges- LOL, these are gonna suck, sorry, you asked for pain and suffering. Do these super slow with moderate weight, 3 sets of 10 per leg. So, if your just gonna walk it, 20 steps total. If your skin isn't tearing on your quads, i'd be shocked. If you cannot do lunges, Bulgarian split squats are fine, too.

Barbell stiff legged deadlift- Do these super slow again, moderate weight, 4 sets of 10. This time, only come 2/3 of the way up on your reps.

Calves o'clock- This was something new for me, and it really blew my calves up. I progressively worked up with sets of 10 on the standing calve raise (use a leg press if you don't have one of these). So, here's what I did-

10 x 40lbs
10 x 55
10 x 80
10 x 95
10 x 110
10 x 125
10 x 140
THEN, I did a drop of max effort 140lbs, 110lbs and 80lbs.

Done.

 

[RThoads]

Apparently this is what MCT tren A, test enan and Winstrol in water mixed together looks like...? Kind of like injecting cottage cheese, a little on the fence about this one.... But, this Fucking Winstrol jams my needle EVERY TIME.... So I'm hoping this helps lube it up!

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Everytime I catch up on your log I smile man.
You are a mad scientist,
but with an intelligent method to you're madness and I always learn things!

 

[Wunderpus]

Everytime I catch up on your log I smile man.
You are a mad scientist,
but with an intelligent method to you're madness and I always learn things!

Thanks buddy! We're probably cast from similar molds, mine might just be a wee bit more "out there."

 

[Mr.B66]

Thank you for that tip on leg ext.
I'm gonna try it next time I hit legs!

Your gonna love these, talk about a burning pump. My thighs are feeling it today. Im gonna do these twice a month from now on.
Let us know how you like it after you try.

 

[Mr.B66]

Okay, here we go-

Lying leg curl- 3 sets of 15 to warmup. Then, 3 sets of 10, make sure to leave 1 or 2 reps in the tank for these 10. On your 4th set, do your 10, then drop the weight and do 8, drop again and shoot for 10. On the bottom of the 10th rep move the weight about 1/4 of the way up and hold it in place for 10 seconds.

Leg press- Work your way up to a hard set of 8. So, do 8 reps of 2 plates, 8 reps of 4 plates, etc. until you hit your 8 rep max.

Supersetted with

Smith squats- Feet out in front, controlled reps w/ a 3 second decent. Do NOT fire out of the bottom here, keep the same tempo. Do 8 reps, scale up like the leg press. These will burn like fire, i promise.

Do 4 rounds of this superset once you reach that 8 rep max.


Walking lunges- LOL, these are gonna suck, sorry, you asked for pain and suffering. Do these super slow with moderate weight, 3 sets of 10 per leg. So, if your just gonna walk it, 20 steps total. If your skin isn't tearing on your quads, i'd be shocked. If you cannot do lunges, Bulgarian split squats are fine, too.

Barbell stiff legged deadlift- Do these super slow again, moderate weight, 4 sets of 10. This time, only come 2/3 of the way up on your reps.

Calves o'clock- This was something new for me, and it really blew my calves up. I progressively worked up with sets of 10 on the standing calve raise (use a leg press if you don't have one of these). So, here's what I did-

10 x 40lbs
10 x 55
10 x 80
10 x 95
10 x 110
10 x 125
10 x 140
THEN, I did a drop of max effort 140lbs, 110lbs and 80lbs.

Done.

Once again , thank you for posting up these WO's, i know im not the only one diggin it. I let you know how it goes, but this one looks BRUTAL!!!

 

[Wunderpus]

Your gonna love these, talk about a burning pump. My thighs are feeling it today. Im gonna do these twice a month from now on.
Let us know how you like it after you try.

Funny how angling your feet changes where you feel it, huh?

 

[Mr.B66]

Funny how angling your feet changes where you feel it, huh?

You can say that again, really caught me by surprise!!