Wunderpus' get bigger cycle

[Wunderpus]

Man a new blend in the front delt for a tester shot you are my hero! that's got to be an insane rep and strength building combo though if it runs smooth for ya.

Hurt like a bitch going in, not gonna lie. 100mg/ml combined orals, in injectable form, was iffy. But it held in solution so I felt okay pinning it.

I can't feel it now, I let a heating pad chill on it for 20 minutes and that seemed to help a lot. I used to do that with winny depot, worked well.

 

[Wunderpus]

What's up guys?

Wow, it's been over 2 weeks since I posted here, not sure what really has happened.

Anyway, all is well, just "cruising" along with some test and a bit of deca right now, popped some anadrol and dbol in to try running those 2 together for the first few weeks of my new program. Running John Meadows' Creeping Death, if anyone is interested. Today I have the MOST insanely sore chest and shoulders i've had in some time.

Also, I have tweaked a bit of the program, so here's how I'm going to run it to bring up some lagging parts (this is largely due to rereading Arnold's Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding, and realizing I can train bi's more than once time a week as well as other "lagging" parts).

M- Off/ HIT cardio (depending on where I'm at with my "look")
Tu- Heavy Back & biceps tri set inspired by Arnold's bicep routine
W- Heavy chest, heavy shoulders and tricep "pump"
Thu- German Volume Training for Legs (10x10 squats and maybe some quad extensions).
Fri- Heavy bis and tris
Sat- Chest and shoulder "pump"
Sun- Heavy legs / a lot of isolated movements (machines, lunges, etc.) + a bit of biceps possibly

This is certainly going to be a helluva workout, it already has been. My weak points right now are biceps and quads. Hamstrings are VERY dominant in my legs, and my shoulder eclipse my bis. Sometimes it is hard to look in the mirror and be objective, sometimes it's also hard to not be TOO critical. I'm trying to find the balance in between, I'm hoping feedback from friends and family will help guide me. The other day my mom told me my arms cant get any bigger, and that they're too big LOL. To me, they're forever too small, funny how we see things.

I must say, there is CERTAINLY some sort of synergy with anadrol and dbol. Although I never really see them mentioned together, there is something remarkable that happens. Strength goes up from the drol, and the pump/volumization fro the dbol is ridiculous. Highly recommend people try this, you can get away with running less mg's overall, as 1+1 seems to equal 3 in this instance.

Hope everyone is doing well, I wanna hear how your lifts and goals are coming along!

 

[Eman]

Thu- German Volume Training for Legs (10x10 squats and maybe some quad extensions)

I love it. This is my new Wednesday right here.

Although I'll probably get to set 6 and say fuck this... lol.

 

[Wunderpus]

I love it. This is my new Wednesday right here.

Although I'll probably get to set 6 and say fuck this... lol.

Have you done GVT before? It's brutal, but it works. I do 10 reps, medium pace with 90 second rest between sets.

 

[Eman]

Have you done GVT before?

No, I've been wanting to but was never sure how to incorporate it. Adding that in with squats would be perfect for me though.

It's brutal, but it works.

I'll have to channel my inner Wunderpus.

 

[DOMS4DAYS]

Looks good brother! I just finished Omega Beam and loved it! Starting on Annihilation Wave this week. Have you heard any feedback on the mountain dog app? Not much info out there on it yet but I am sure it is quality.

Some syntherol would probably help bring up those biceps Its taboo around here I know but I picked up some for my arms and will be playing around with it. So far so good! Gonna use a moderate approach and just start with 1/2 cc each bicep and tricep head pre training. It will work out to each muscle head pinned three times per week. If all goes well may bump up to 1cc.

 

[Wunderpus]

Looks good brother! I just finished Omega Beam and loved it! Starting on Annihilation Wave this week. Have you heard any feedback on the mountain dog app? Not much info out there on it yet but I am sure it is quality.

Some syntherol would probably help bring up those biceps Its taboo around here I know but I picked up some for my arms and will be playing around with it. So far so good! Gonna use a moderate approach and just start with 1/2 cc each bicep and tricep head pre training. It will work out to each muscle head pinned three times per week. If all goes well may bump up to 1cc.

It's not taboo on my thread, all approaches are welcome!

I believe we have all been using site enhancement oil, whether or not we admit/acknowledge it. My delts have certainly grown from pinning them over the years.

I tried pinning my triceps on Friday, just 1cc in each. Honestly, the pip is nowhere near as bad as I expected.

What made you go with syntherol? I was more likely to try either Bostin's 3CC or the classic Dave Palumbos painless pumps.

 

[Mr.B66]

Hey Wunder, hope lifes treating you well bud!!! Anyway im curious about a cpl things.
First whats your biceps routine looking like these days. And second, ive done very minimal reading on the subject of synthol or any other inj site enhancing oil, so im wondering , how long do the effects last?

 

[DOMS4DAYS]

It's not taboo on my thread, all approaches are welcome!

I believe we have all been using site enhancement oil, whether or not we admit/acknowledge it. My delts have certainly grown from pinning them over the years.

I tried pinning my triceps on Friday, just 1cc in each. Honestly, the pip is nowhere near as bad as I expected.

What made you go with syntherol? I was more likely to try either Bostin's 3CC or the classic Dave Palumbos painless pumps.

Agreed.

I researched both Painless Pumps and Syntherol and really like the fact that Syntherol was a lighter oil. I have been pinning with a 29G slin pin and if flows beautifully. Absolutely painless. From what I read you need at least a 23-25G pin with Painless Pumps, no thank you.

 

[DOMS4DAYS]

Hey Wunder, hope lifes treating you well bud!!! Anyway im curious about a cpl things.
First whats your biceps routine looking like these days. And second, ive done very minimal reading on the subject of synthol or any other inj site enhancing oil, so im wondering , how long do the effects last?

I did quite a bit of research and the opinions vary. Some say you will hold the size or at least half some say it is just temporary but if you think about it everything we use is temporary. It may also depend upon the protocol. There are extreme dose protocols that are designed to quickly increase size and then moderate ones that can be used to gain size over time and maintain it with small maintenance doses.

I can tell you this I had skin ripping pumps in my biceps like I have never felt before and the pump has not went down much in three days and that is only on 1/2cc per muscle head. Some of the extreme protocols are 3CC in each head. I couldn't even imagine that at this point.

I like to research and experiment and this thread is what really made me consider using oil:
Pinkton's SYNTHEROL ARM LOG with JJB1 - Professional Muscle
A must read, it is pretty entertaining and full of good info.

 

[Wunderpus]

Hey Wunder, hope lifes treating you well bud!!! Anyway im curious about a cpl things.
First whats your biceps routine looking like these days. And second, ive done very minimal reading on the subject of synthol or any other inj site enhancing oil, so im wondering , how long do the effects last?

What's up man?

Okay, let's start with the significantly less controversial subject, bicep routine. Right now I am running a 2 or 3 day a week program, depending on how recovering feels. Either way, none of the workouts of that week will look similar. One will be a heavy day, one will be a pump day and one is a day focusing on drop sets and iso holds. 1 of the days is from John Meadows Creeping Death program. The other two I largely steal/compile from Arnold's BB'ing encyclopedia. Here is a one I did the other day that had my arms (and my partner's) screaming!

A few warmup sets of concentration curls, so 20, 12 and 10. At this point, I'm really trying to visualizes the squeezing of the muscle, and hone in that connection. A have also been DRIVING these thoughts into my mind while warming up:

- SQUEEZE each rep
- Visualize each rep
- Form is crucial, keep elbows stationary (to avoid front delt activity)

Barbell curl - 4 sets of 8, you should be struggling to keep your form at 8

Triset of alternating DB curls followed by preacher curls and finished with EZ bar reverse curls. Try and hit 8 reps for the first 2 exercises, then hit 20 reps for the reverse curls. 4 sets of this triset total, so 12 working sets total.

Alternating DB curls 18 reps per set, but hit 6 reps with your hands almost at your side (think T curls), 6 reps with your hands at shoulder width and 6 reps with your hands "inside" your shoulder's width. 3 sets of that total.

Barbell curls- 8 half reps at the bottom, 8 half reps at the top then finish to failure with full SQUEEZING reps. 3 sets of this.


Okay, now on to synthol. Note, I've never shot anything into my biceps, SEO, gear, peptides etc., so I can't comment much on that.

The effects are largely determined by two factors, what's inside the oil and your training/diet while using the oil.

Let's tackle the first thing first. Some manufacturers put various things such as silica into their synthol, to make it "more permanent." I'm not sure how I feel about this... When it's just oil, it seems to "last" no longer than a month or so.

Now, the "idea" of synthol for most users is for it to stretch the actual fibers (fascia) of the muscle, to allow new growth. This can work in many ways, but it's similar to the "pump" you get while working.

I would look into Big A's protocol. It is important to keep in mind Big A is a huge pusher of the Synthetek products, so his protocol is largely intended to waste as much oil as possible. However, there is also a lot of good info there.

 

[Wunderpus]

I did quite a bit of research and the opinions vary. Some say you will hold the size or at least half some say it is just temporary but if you think about it everything we use is temporary. It may also depend upon the protocol. There are extreme dose protocols that are designed to quickly increase size and then moderate ones that can be used to gain size over time and maintain it with small maintenance doses.

I can tell you this I had skin ripping pumps in my biceps like I have never felt before and the pump has not went down much in three days and that is only on 1/2cc per muscle head. Some of the extreme protocols are 3CC in each head. I couldn't even imagine that at this point.

I like to research and experiment and this thread is what really made me consider using oil:
Pinkton's SYNTHEROL ARM LOG with JJB1 - Professional Muscle
A must read, it is pretty entertaining and full of good info.

Dom, I have a bottle of 3cc Synthol, I will give it a try and let you know how it goes, fuck it, right? Also, I have a bottle of Syntherol on the way to compare. I will only be pinning tris for now, let's give this shit a whirl. Should we make a new thread about synthol and tracking it's results/experience?

 

[Mr.B66]

What's up man?

Okay, let's start with the significantly less controversial subject, bicep routine. Right now I am running a 2 or 3 day a week program, depending on how recovering feels. Either way, none of the workouts of that week will look similar. One will be a heavy day, one will be a pump day and one is a day focusing on drop sets and iso holds. 1 of the days is from John Meadows Creeping Death program. The other two I largely steal/compile from Arnold's BB'ing encyclopedia. Here is a one I did the other day that had my arms (and my partner's) screaming!

A few warmup sets of concentration curls, so 20, 12 and 10. At this point, I'm really trying to visualizes the squeezing of the muscle, and hone in that connection. A have also been DRIVING these thoughts into my mind while warming up:

- SQUEEZE each rep
- Visualize each rep
- Form is crucial, keep elbows stationary (to avoid front delt activity)

Barbell curl - 4 sets of 8, you should be struggling to keep your form at 8

Triset of alternating DB curls followed by preacher curls and finished with EZ bar reverse curls. Try and hit 8 reps for the first 2 exercises, then hit 20 reps for the reverse curls. 4 sets of this triset total, so 12 working sets total.

Alternating DB curls 18 reps per set, but hit 6 reps with your hands almost at your side (think T curls), 6 reps with your hands at shoulder width and 6 reps with your hands "inside" your shoulder's width. 3 sets of that total.

Barbell curls- 8 half reps at the bottom, 8 half reps at the top then finish to failure with full SQUEEZING reps. 3 sets of this.


Okay, now on to synthol. Note, I've never shot anything into my biceps, SEO, gear, peptides etc., so I can't comment much on that.

The effects are largely determined by two factors, what's inside the oil and your training/diet while using the oil.

Let's tackle the first thing first. Some manufacturers put various things such as silica into their synthol, to make it "more permanent." I'm not sure how I feel about this... When it's just oil, it seems to "last" no longer than a month or so.

Now, the "idea" of synthol for most users is for it to stretch the actual fibers (fascia) of the muscle, to allow new growth. This can work in many ways, but it's similar to the "pump" you get while working.

I would look into Big A's protocol. It is important to keep in mind Big A is a huge pusher of the Synthetek products, so his protocol is largely intended to waste as much oil as possible. However, there is also a lot of good info there.

Awesome bicep workout right there, thank you for taking the time to write it out in such detail, i really appreciate it. I know im giving it a go and hope others reading it will as well. I very rarely if EVER have soreness in my bi's, just one of those stubborn muscles for me but this workout looks like it should deff cause some pain.
BTW, still doing the calves workout you shared and loving it. Better growth in my calves in the last 4-5 months than in the last 5 years.
Also the leg workouts you shared. Still getting used to them as they are pretty brutal but very rewarding as well. The pump from the leg extensions at 20 reps with a 2 sec pause is fucking insane.
Ima checkout Big A's protocol, not cause im gonna try it, but id like to learn more about it.
Thanks again my friend, i truly appreciate it [emoji4]

 

[Wunderpus]

Awesome bicep workout right there, thank you for taking the time to write it out in such detail, i really appreciate it. I know im giving it a go and hope others reading it will as well. I very rarely if EVER have soreness in my bi's, just one of those stubborn muscles for me but this workout looks like it should deff cause some pain.
BTW, still doing the calves workout you shared and loving it. Better growth in my calves in the last 4-5 months than in the last 5 years.
Also the leg workouts you shared. Still getting used to them as they are pretty brutal but very rewarding as well. The pump from the leg extensions at 20 reps with a 2 sec pause is fucking insane.
Ima checkout Big A's protocol, not cause im gonna try it, but id like to learn more about it.
Thanks again my friend, i truly appreciate it [emoji4]

I am so happy to hear that, truly. You know, I try and tell me training partner (he's new to this, just lifting for about 6 months, *3 with me) the shit I wish people told me. I wish I had learned these elements way earlier in training:

-diet is 75% of the battle
-focus on the mind muscle connection
-you cannot train every muscle the same
- calves and abs need to be trained EOD

I have some other calf routines that I do, that you might enjoy. However, they all more or less employ the same principles: volume, variety and pain.... LOL

Here are two other calf routines I have loved:

Standing Calf Raises sets of 8 HEAVY reps
-Supersetted with-
Seated calf raises, 25 reps.
Do this 8 times, I dare you.

-On another day-

Machine press calf extensions, hit 25 reps or so.
Immediately hop off the machine and go into a standing calf stretch/raise for as long as is tolerable (15 seconds or so), SQUEEZE. Then, pump out as many body weight calf raises as you can.
Do this 4 times.

*Yes, my primary partner has been lifting just about 6 months. I have another who has YEARS of lifting, but his attitude and morale SUCKS. Too head strong. This kid is willing to learn, has a GREAT energy and really cheers my up always. I don't need him to be strong, or knowledgeable, a good attitude is everything to me. Pick your partners wisely, guys.

 

[DOMS4DAYS]

Dom, I have a bottle of 3cc Synthol, I will give it a try and let you know how it goes, fuck it, right? Also, I have a bottle of Syntherol on the way to compare. I will only be pinning tris for now, let's give this shit a whirl. Should we make a new thread about synthol and tracking it's results/experience?

I'm down brother other than I'm it sure how much I will be able to update. I'm busy AF with work right now and all my free time I'm eating, training, sleeping, and pinning! I jump on here and PM and AB from time to time just to catch up. I think it would be an interesting thread just try to keep it from getting derailed with negativity. If some of the guys here spent some time reading some of the threads over at PM it may open their eyes a little.

 

[Mr.B66]

I am so happy to hear that, truly. You know, I try and tell me training partner (he's new to this, just lifting for about 6 months, 3 with me) the shit I wish people told me. I wish I had learned these elements way earlier in training:

-diet is 75% of the battle
-focus on the mind muscle connection
-you cannot train every muscle the same
- calves and abs need to be trained EOD

I have some other calf routines that I do, that you might enjoy. However, they all more or less employ the same principles: volume, variety and pain.... LOL

Here are two other calf routines I have loved:

Standing Calf Raises sets of 8 HEAVY reps
-Supersetted with-
Seated calf raises, 25 reps.
Do this 8 times, I dare you.

-On another day-

Machine press calf extensions, hit 25 reps or so.
Immediately hop off the machine and go into a standing calf stretch/raise for as long as is tolerable (15 seconds or so), SQUEEZE. Then, pump out as many body weight calf raises as you can.
Do this 4 times.

Oh man!!!!!! Ima try the first one today, can already see the pump will be skin splitting!!!!! I LYK how it goes. Biceps on wed, cant wait[emoji41]
I agree 100% on mind muscle connection. I tell all the young up n comers that ask me questions on training for strength or size , that mind muscle connection is very important in attaining gains. Ill point to the guy in the gym( im sure we all have at least one) texting between every set , and tell them to watch that guy , he will look exactly the same next year, (if he makes it that long before he gives up) because he has no concept of the mind muscle connection, cause hes more interested in his internet connection lol!!!!!

 

[Wunderpus]

I'm down brother other than I'm it sure how much I will be able to update. I'm busy AF with work right now and all my free time I'm eating, training, sleeping, and pinning! I jump on here and PM and AB from time to time just to catch up. I think it would be an interesting thread just try to keep it from getting derailed with negativity. If some of the guys here spent some time reading some of the threads over at PM it may open their eyes a little.

PM is such a mixed bag, though. The censorship and BS'ing makes it tough for members, including myself, to really engage too much there. Sending members to review info on PM won't go a long way here...

 

[Wunderpus]

Oh man!!!!!! Ima try the first one today, can already see the pump will be skin splitting!!!!! I LYK how it goes. Biceps on wed, cant wait[emoji41]
I agree 100% on mind muscle connection. I tell all the young up n comers that ask me questions on training for strength or size , that mind muscle connection is very important in attaining gains. Ill point to the guy in the gym( im sure we all have at least one) texting between every set , and tell them to watch that guy , he will look exactly the same next year, (if he makes it that long before he gives up) because he has no concept of the mind muscle connection, cause hes more interested in his internet connection lol!!!!!

True! I'd say the biggest thing that helped me is flexing as hard as I can after the set is finished... Over, and over and over! I literally etched that feeling into my mind, and channel it every time I lift now. Helped me A LOT! Also, learning how to NOT cheat... It's all about lifting with intent.

 

[DOMS4DAYS]

PM is such a mixed bag, though. The censorship and BS'ing makes it tough for members, including myself, to really engage too much there. Sending members to review info on PM won't go a long way here...

True, I enjoy the member logs and pro Q/A section. My comment read a little wrong. Meant it as would open eyes to the other methods of bodybuilding.

 

[Wunderpus]

Ladies and gents,

I hope everyone is well!

Yesterday was a quick arm day, largely structured off of Arnold's arm day plan. I recently purchased and Arm Blaster to try out, holy shit that thing is effective. Here's what we did:

Arm blaster barbell curls- 20, 15, 10, 8, 6, 4
Incline DB curls - 4 sets of 8, hard squeeze for 1 second at the top & 2 second descent
Lying tricep extensions - 15, 10, 8, 6, 4
Concentration curls- 3 sets of 8 for each arm, same deal as inclines (squeeze and lower slowly)
Triceps rope press down- 4 sets of 10
Reverse grip triceps press down- 15 reps
-supersetted with-
Pronated tricep kickbacks w/ DB's- 8 reps, squeeze and flex on these

Surprisingly, this workout KILLED me, in a good way. I went all out on every set, not saving energy for the next routine... Made a huge difference in the pump.