I agree Test is best. Like you said some guys respond better than others. So someone who responds quite good can get similar results on 400-600mg vs someone with worse than average response. He might need 750 or even 1000+ mgs.I think going under 500mg would be naive. keeps your metabolism up, less likely to lose muscle, keeps you feeling good , puts calories towards muscle rather than fat.. (I think it keeps your receptors upregulated/upregulating)
We have so much information now, the blood tests to get, what is normal and what isn't, medications to control every variable.
Theres Ezetimibe/statins for cholesterol,
nebivolol/ARBs for blood pressure and reducing the odds of cardiac problems. nattokinease for blood clotting,
Astragalus for kidneys (huge one)
I think if you're trying to get huge, you go down to 500mg when life gets in the way and you use that time to completely deload and let your joints and tendons recover.
Is there a big difference on bloodwork between a 250mg and 500mg cruise? how about 1g? I don't know, thats why if someone cares about their health they get bloodwork, maybe for someone theres no difference between 500mg and 750mg. but I think the main thing we care about, since everything else is controlled, is HDL.
if you want HDL to recover i think you need to go down to a legit TRT dose and chill. the muscle comes back quick anyway
i think we just need to get bloodwork and do our own risk management, we had these guidelines about milligrams and weeks and PCTs and etc, that all was good up until probably 2016-2018,
now we have a lot more info and don't have to rush these 12 or 16 week cycles into a clomid/nolva PCT and wait 4 months until we can do it again for the "receptors"
With testosterone, I don't feel guilty about running some strange foreign hormone, trying to make the most of X weeks on tren while my body deteriorates, like the clock is ticking. i dont worry about how my mood is day to day, wondering if my mood is due to my life circumstances or if its coming from something else I'm taking,
So just test at a gram or more a week is what your suggesting and just control estrogen side effects. What range test level are you suggesting at this dose for this maximum growth/cycleI think going under 500mg would be naive. keeps your metabolism up, less likely to lose muscle, keeps you feeling good , puts calories towards muscle rather than fat.. (I think it keeps your receptors upregulated/upregulating)
We have so much information now, the blood tests to get, what is normal and what isn't, medications to control every variable.
Theres Ezetimibe/statins for cholesterol,
nebivolol/ARBs for blood pressure and reducing the odds of cardiac problems. nattokinease for blood clotting,
Astragalus for kidneys (huge one)
I think if you're trying to get huge, you go down to 500mg when life gets in the way and you use that time to completely deload and let your joints and tendons recover.
Is there a big difference on bloodwork between a 250mg and 500mg cruise? how about 1g? I don't know, thats why if someone cares about their health they get bloodwork, maybe for someone theres no difference between 500mg and 750mg. but I think the main thing we care about, since everything else is controlled, is HDL.
if you want HDL to recover i think you need to go down to a legit TRT dose and chill. the muscle comes back quick anyway
i think we just need to get bloodwork and do our own risk management, we had these guidelines about milligrams and weeks and PCTs and etc, that all was good up until probably 2016-2018,
now we have a lot more info and don't have to rush these 12 or 16 week cycles into a clomid/nolva PCT and wait 4 months until we can do it again for the "receptors"
With testosterone, I don't feel guilty about running some strange foreign hormone, trying to make the most of X weeks on tren while my body deteriorates, like the clock is ticking. i dont worry about how my mood is day to day, wondering if my mood is due to my life circumstances or if its coming from something else I'm taking,
1500mg for 6 months. Tapering up from 750mg.
Dial in your testosterone dose to your A.I dose.
guys make their blasts 300mg-750mg testosterone for years for no reason,
there really isn't a hell of a lot of difference between 500mg and 750mg. Especially on bloodwork.
instead of doing an extra cc or two of what works, they just add other compounds like deca to experience side effects or add orals to crush their cholesterol, when they couldve just kept it simple.
For example, I think doing a first cycle of 500mg and then 750mg for cycle 2 is a complete waste of time.
Most people are not getting big from 500 test 300 deca... 300 test 300 tren.. 600 test 50 anadrol. 600 test 450 eq.. 400 test 300 primo 200mg masteron
all of this depends on how you respond to testosterone, there are smaller guys that respond well and can get 1500mg blood levels on just 750mg.
my point is , if you want more testosterone, dont hold yourself back by some arbitrary numbers of milligrams, go off feeling, blood work and side effects.
going from 500mg to 750mg isnt "50% more gains"
just like its not, "50% more damaging"
or "50% more pumps"
What’s your take on this @Type-IIxI think going under 500mg would be naive. keeps your metabolism up, less likely to lose muscle, keeps you feeling good , puts calories towards muscle rather than fat.. (I think it keeps your receptors upregulated/upregulating)
We have so much information now, the blood tests to get, what is normal and what isn't, medications to control every variable.
Theres Ezetimibe/statins for cholesterol,
nebivolol/ARBs for blood pressure and reducing the odds of cardiac problems. nattokinease for blood clotting,
Astragalus for kidneys (huge one)
I think if you're trying to get huge, you go down to 500mg when life gets in the way and you use that time to completely deload and let your joints and tendons recover.
Is there a big difference on bloodwork between a 250mg and 500mg cruise? how about 1g? I don't know, thats why if someone cares about their health they get bloodwork, maybe for someone theres no difference between 500mg and 750mg. but I think the main thing we care about, since everything else is controlled, is HDL.
if you want HDL to recover i think you need to go down to a legit TRT dose and chill. the muscle comes back quick anyway
i think we just need to get bloodwork and do our own risk management, we had these guidelines about milligrams and weeks and PCTs and etc, that all was good up until probably 2016-2018,
now we have a lot more info and don't have to rush these 12 or 16 week cycles into a clomid/nolva PCT and wait 4 months until we can do it again for the "receptors"
With testosterone, I don't feel guilty about running some strange foreign hormone, trying to make the most of X weeks on tren while my body deteriorates, like the clock is ticking. i dont worry about how my mood is day to day, wondering if my mood is due to my life circumstances or if its coming from something else I'm taking,
Out of curiosity and for the sake of discussion, as I love Testostetone myself. What dosage and for how long would you suggest/recommend for a guy who wants to get big and muscular by general standards, but not huge or bodybuilding standards. Let's keep in mind long term sustainability and health too
Spot on1500mg for 6 months. Tapering up from 750mg.
Dial in your testosterone dose to your A.I dose.
guys make their blasts 300mg-750mg testosterone for years for no reason,
there really isn't a hell of a lot of difference between 500mg and 750mg. Especially on bloodwork.
instead of doing an extra cc or two of what works, they just add other compounds like deca to experience side effects or add orals to crush their cholesterol, when they couldve just kept it simple.
For example, I think doing a first cycle of 500mg and then 750mg for cycle 2 is a complete waste of time.
Most people are not getting big from 500 test 300 deca... 300 test 300 tren.. 600 test 50 anadrol. 600 test 450 eq.. 400 test 300 primo 200mg masteron
all of this depends on how you respond to testosterone, there are smaller guys that respond well and can get 1500mg blood levels on just 750mg.
my point is , if you want more testosterone, dont hold yourself back by some arbitrary numbers of milligrams, go off feeling, blood work and side effects.
going from 500mg to 750mg isnt "50% more gains"
just like its not, "50% more damaging"
or "50% more pumps"
Besides the contradiction I don’t think it’s wrong per se. I just disagree that 1,500 mg of testosterone solo can ever be well tolerated and that there’s no practical difference between 300 & 1,500 mg. I don’t think @Liter O' Test is dumb just think this was a stream-of-consciousness couple of posts.What’s your take on this @Type-IIx