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[Trifive]

My thoughts exactly. Surely his base line produces a higher igf than 1iu would give him.

That’s why it’s important to know your base. Last I checked my base was 250ish. I ran 4iu for 6 months and thought of dropping down to 2iu and cruising but knowing that 2iu would only put me around what I naturally produce I decided to just come off for the time being.

my base before ibutamoren was 70. Ibutamoren only got me to 140.

the GH I was injecting before Opti made me feel like absolute shit on only 2iu’s. My body didn’t like it at all. So I would like to stay low and allow my body to adjust and then increase. If I feel like shit what’s the point??

 

[B Ware]

my base before ibutamoren was 70. Ibutamoren only got me to 140.

the GH I was injecting before Opti made me feel like absolute shit on only 2iu’s. My body didn’t like it at all. So I would like to stay low and allow my body to adjust and then increase. If I feel like shit what’s the point??

When you say it made you feel like shit, what were your symptoms? Sorry, other than the usual sides such as cts and water retention I’ve never heard of anyone feeling like shit off gh. Are you saying the water retention brought on symptoms that had you feeling bad?

 

[Trifive]

When you say it made you feel like shit, what were your symptoms? Sorry, other than the usual sides such as cts and water retention I’ve never heard of anyone feeling like shit off gh. Are you saying the water retention brought on symptoms that had you feeling bad?

The absolute worst sleepiness I've ever experienced along with nausea. Zero energy like literally taking 3 naps a day. After I stopped taking it it took about 4 days for me to feel better. I want the good results of GH!! But if it knocks me on my ass and I feel sick, there's no point.

While 25mg of Ibutamoren doubled my IGF to 140, I have zero sides with that stuff. No hunger, lethargy, etc.

 

[JP1979]

my base before ibutamoren was 70. Ibutamoren only got me to 140.

the GH I was injecting before Opti made me feel like absolute shit on only 2iu’s. My body didn’t like it at all. So I would like to stay low and allow my body to adjust and then increase. If I feel like shit what’s the point??

I wouldn’t stay at 1 for more than 1 week. You are essentially wasting it if you go longer than that. 1 for a week and bump to 2

 

[Trifive]

I wouldn’t stay at 1 for more than 1 week. You are essentially wasting it if you go longer than that. 1 for a week and bump to 2

That’s what I did last round with the other GH brand.

 

[JP1979]

That’s what I did last round with the other GH brand.

Ok, so if you follow the same protocol you will know if it’s the gH, the dose, or just you.

 

[B Ware]

The absolute worst sleepiness I've ever experienced along with nausea. Zero energy like literally taking 3 naps a day. After I stopped taking it it took about 4 days for me to feel better. I want the good results of GH!! But if it knocks me on my ass and I feel sick, there's no point.

While 25mg of Ibutamoren doubled my IGF to 140, I have zero sides with that stuff. No hunger, lethargy, etc.

Gotcha... Hopefully Optis treat you better. Everyone responds a bit different but rule of thumb is per every 1iu it should in most cases equal 100 igf-1. If your base was 70 than running 1iu isn’t doing much at all and who’s to say that 1iu is even giving you a higher score than 70? Only bloods could tell you. I feel 1iu is a complete waste. Your just putting unnecessary stress on your liver and pancreas to create igf1 and insulin for a number your body is already producing naturally.

As JP said, go to 2 or it’s a waste. If you find that hgh isn’t for you than I will buy your kits at 50% off

 

[JP1979]

The absolute worst sleepiness I've ever experienced along with nausea. Zero energy like literally taking 3 naps a day. After I stopped taking it it took about 4 days for me to feel better. I want the good results of GH!! But if it knocks me on my ass and I feel sick, there's no point.

While 25mg of Ibutamoren doubled my IGF to 140, I have zero sides with that stuff. No hunger, lethargy, etc.

Did you get your IGF tested on the other brand?

 

[Leksis]

How pricey r those igf-1 tests? Thinking its time for me to start HGH.... next year i will celebrate my 40... so i guess its about time !

 

[JP1979]

You can get full labs on PrivateMD for 155 before code that includes IGF.

It ends up being around 130 for a full set of labs. I do them every 6 weeks

 

[B Ware]

How pricey r those igf-1 tests? Thinking its time for me to start HGH.... next year i will celebrate my 40... so i guess its about time !

70 - 75 bucks for just the Igf-1 test from Privatemdlabs or Labsmd. Best to do a full panel but if your wanting just Igf-1 at least add Thyroid profile with TSH

 

[mtt]

0 dimmer from what I understand makes all the difference.

I'm on 3rd day and I seem to feel a bit more optimistic about life lol. my stress levels are a constant 8/10 with having family members with mental health issues. FWIW.

I hear about "dimer" all the time. What exactly is this and what is it effects?

 

[kdq99]

@opti running any XMas or New Years specials?

 

[T&H]

@opti running any XMas or New Years specials?

He's considering one but will post if he definitely decides to. You just missed out on a great sale weeks ago.

 

[kdq99]

He's considering one but will post if he definitely decides to. You just missed out on a great sale weeks ago.

Yeah I saw. Thanks for the update.

 

[Trifive]

Gotcha... Hopefully Optis treat you better. Everyone responds a bit different but rule of thumb is per every 1iu it should in most cases equal 100 igf-1. If your base was 70 than running 1iu isn’t doing much at all and who’s to say that 1iu is even giving you a higher score than 70? Only bloods could tell you. I feel 1iu is a complete waste. Your just putting unnecessary stress on your liver and pancreas to create igf1 and insulin for a number your body is already producing naturally.

As JP said, go to 2 or it’s a waste. If you find that hgh isn’t for you than I will buy your kits at 50% off

I've read that where they say every 1iu is equal to 100 IGF level. Is that from 0 or from a person's base? Meaning if I add 1iu to a base of 70, it'll take me to around 170, or that it'll just take me to 100 total?

 

[B Ware]

I've read that where they say every 1iu is equal to 100 IGF level. Is that from 0 or from a person's base? Meaning if I add 1iu to a base of 70, it'll take me to around 170, or that it'll just take me to 100 total?

It would take you to 100. Just as 4iu took me to 400.

 

[Leksis]

You can get full labs on PrivateMD for 155 before code that includes IGF.

It ends up being around 130 for a full set of labs. I do them every 6 weeks

70 - 75 bucks for just the Igf-1 test from Privatemdlabs or Labsmd. Best to do a full panel but if your wanting just Igf-1 at least add Thyroid profile with TSH

Thank u all for ur info guys! I gotta check on it

 

[JP1979]

It would take you to 100. Just as 4iu took me to 400.

This.

Remember you have to replace the natty your shutting off.

If your natty test level was 1000, adding 200mg a week isn’t going to take you to 2000.... you’d most likely still be 1000.

 

[TNotch347]

I thought gh production didn’t shut off, especially if your only doing one a day in the am. At night I can see it interrupting if you take it to late before you sleep you may not get your natural “dump”. Do we know for sure it does? This was always my impression.