Cyp/Tren/Primo Cut

[Deleted member 123722]

Youre overthinking brother.If youre in a caloric deficit for a long time you simply have to accept the fact that you will lose strength and feel like a zombie after a while.As long as fat loss doesn't stagnate and you keep your muscle mass i wouldn't change anything. And you made great progress so far.

I mean, I'm not tired or sore at my next session, so I'm healing; it's probably the shorter rest periods and not doing HIT anymore. Some movements I can still do the same weights, others, not so much.

 

[Ferenor]

In my opinion on a cut you should do hit to maintain strength and so muscle

 

[Deleted member 123722]

In my opinion on a cut you should do hit to maintain strength and so muscle

That's what I did at first, and I felt I was at a plateau, so I ask my friend who just won Eastern NPCs, and he said not to increase cardio yet, but increase training volume, so I switched from HIT to three straight 3 sets, and I did see improvement.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

My current workout is this. If I do machines on the first round, the second round I switch to dumbbells or cables. So I'm not doing the same exact exercises or using the same exact equipment. If the gym is packed and I can't do what I intended to, I will make adjustments.

Everything is now getting three straight sets, reps can vary from 8-12, but typically keep it above 10, slow and controlled tempo, no explosive movements at all. The first exercises for each body part will get one extra set for a warm up. If I feel my last set wasn't good enough, or enough blood flood, I will do a drop set.

Mon: Chest/Shoulders/Tris

* Hammer Machine decline press
* Machine flies

* Machine lateral raise
* Machine rear delts

* Rope pulls downs
* Dumbbell extensions

* Cardio: PWO 30min on treadmill, incline 1 at 3mph

Tues: Back/Traps/Bis

* Assisted pull-up machine (pronated)
* T-bar rows
* Hammer machine one-arm lat pull-in (supinated)

* Hammer machine shrugs

* Cable curls
* Dumbbell hammer curl

* Cardio: PWO 30min on treadmill, incline 1 at 3mph

Weds: Legs

* Leg press
* Hack squat
* SLDL
* Extensions
* Curls
* Adductor machine

* Calves on leg press
* Seated calf machine

* Cardio: PWO 30min on bike, setting 5

Thursday: Chest/Shoulders/Tris

* Flat Dumbbell press
* Cable flies

* Lateral raises cable
* Rear deal cables

* One-arm Cable extensions
* Incline skull crushers

* Cardio: PWO 30min on treadmill, incline 1 at 3mph

Friday: Back/Traps/Bis

* Lat pull-down
* Hammer machine high-row (pronated grip)
* Hammer machine one-arm row (neutral grip)

* Barbell shrugs

* Barbell spider curls
* Barbell reverse curls

* Cardio: PWO 30min on treadmill, incline 1 at 3mph

Saturday: Legs

* Smith machine squats
* Hack squat
* SLDL
* Extensions
* Curls
* Adductor machine

* Calf raises on smith machine
* Seated calf raises

* Cardio: PWO 30min on bike, setting 5

Sunday: OFF

 

[Deleted member 123722]

@Type-IIx

Quick question for you. So I have been running 50mcg t3 ED since I started; do you think I would benefit ramping up to 75ED, or just leave it as is?

I planned on running t3 year round actually, but eventually I'm going to have to get off. I know the horror stories of total shutdown and damage are false, but at some point, after this cut, I want to restore my natural levels back, and I'm thinking that while my t3 is going to recover, to run some clen while it is doing so, a low dose of 40mcg per day only.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Last three day I've been eating more crap, when I never have cravings or anything, specifically chocolate. Today I ate a huge cheat meal; I guess my body wants a break lol. I'm listening to it, and back on the grind next week. Maybe even do a deload if I'm feeling I need to. But body hasn't changed at all regardless what I ate, so that's a good sign.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Ok, after three days of binging at night time, I woke up 227, yet I still look as lean as before.

Back on the grind this week.

You can see the GH welt on my lower stomach lol.

 

[may2021]

Ok, after three days of binging at night time, I woke up 227, yet I still look as lean as before.

Back on the grind this week.

You can see the GH welt on my lower stomach lol.

Looking good, bro

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Looking good, bro

Thanks. I keep telling myself I could certainly lose fat faster, but at the pace I'm going, I don't feel burdened at all, and this makes it sustainable for the long term.

 

[Mechanic]

Thanks. I keep telling myself I could certainly lose fat faster, but at the pace I'm going, I don't feel burdened at all, and this makes it sustainable for the long term.

You look better and better each time you post. Definitely keep this going man congrats!

 

[Djdj97]

Good progress. Im trying to bulk for the first time on tren and it sucks cant fucking gain weight at all.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Good progress. Im trying to bulk for the first time on tren and it sucks cant fucking gain weight at all.

I would switch to Deca or NPP if I were you.

 

[Djdj97]

I would switch to Deca or NPP if I were you.

I think im going to soon, i actually regret not going further with my cut so im seeing if im able to recomp a bit.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Guys, I'm floating around 222-224, but I am still changing visually. The changes are very subtle, but can be seen. Sometimes I feel that I am going TOO slow, when I should be losing 1-2lbs a week, but I'm not. Most people get shredded in like 12 weeks; I started this Feb 21 and now it is May 8th; I lost the most bulk of my fat in the beginning of this cut, but you'd think I'd still be losing at the same rate.

Part of me wants to up the T3; the other part wants to lower calories a bit or increase the cardio to 45 mins, but these changes are happening, and perhaps I'm being impatient, or I'm starting to mind-fuck myself. I'm either losing very little fat per week, like .5lbs or the tren is recomping?

Cardio has become extremely easy; the 30min LISS on treadmill or bike is a breeze; my strength is pathetic on some lifts, but the same on others. This is also due to me changing my rep tempo, using less weight, but making that weight harder. My rep tempo is like that of Nick Walker; I don't explode on any movement, it is always controlled. Despite lifting pathetic weight, I haven't lost any muscle at all however; in fact, my legs look great. I still have back fat, lower love handles, and thicker skin on my arms, yet my bicep vein is now popping out without flexing.

IDK if I should just push harder or just keep going as I am. Maybe I just some reassurance like a woman at this point lol? I did just order a shit ton of t3 and clen, and I'm thinking the drugs work their magic without altering anything else, since I like my food where it is now, and I will need that food to power my six gym sessions a week.

 

[Djdj97]

Guys, I'm floating around 222-224, but I am still changing visually. The changes are very subtle, but can be seen. Sometimes I feel that I am going TOO slow, when I should be losing 1-2lbs a week, but I'm not. Most people get shredded in like 12 weeks; I started this Feb 21 and now it is May 8th; I lost the most bulk of my fat in the beginning of this cut, but you'd think I'd still be losing at the same rate.

Part of me wants to up the T3; the other part wants to lower calories a bit or increase the cardio to 45 mins, but these changes are happening, and perhaps I'm being impatient, or I'm starting to mind-fuck myself. I'm either losing very little fat per week, like .5lbs or the tren is recomping?

Cardio has become extremely easy; the 30min LISS on treadmill or bike is a breeze; my strength is pathetic on some lifts, but the same on others. This is also due to me changing my rep tempo, using less weight, but making that weight harder. My rep tempo is like that of Nick Walker; I don't explode on any movement, it is always controlled. Despite lifting pathetic weight, I haven't lost any muscle at all however; in fact, my legs look great. I still have back fat, lower love handles, and thicker skin on my arms, yet my bicep vein is now popping out without flexing.

IDK if I should just push harder or just keep going as I am. Maybe I just some reassurance like a woman at this point lol? I did just order a shit ton of t3 and clen, and I'm thinking the drugs work their magic without altering anything else, since I like my food where it is now, and I will need that food to power my six gym sessions a week.

I think sometimes when cutting using AAS the scale is a bad way to measure progress. I cut with winstrol/var/test and sometimes my weight would be stuck for a long time but i could still see i was leaning out very well

 

[Deleted member 123722]

I think sometimes when cutting using AAS the scale is a bad way to measure progress. I cut with winstrol/var/test and sometimes my weight would be stuck for a long time but i could still see i was leaning out very well

I guess so, especially on Tren which recomps.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Holy shit did I binge last night. This is my third week binging on a Sunday; IDK what is going on, and it seems FAT is what my body wants more than anything. I woke up this morning at 229 lol, yet I look the same as I did yesterday, perhaps a bit of water.

One culprit could be skipping meals on my off days to make room for meals later on? Yesterday, I only ate two meals, rather than three, by 4pm to "save" my calories for Mother's Day dinner. I ate a good amount of calories there, plus desert, which by the way made me drowsy. After I got home a few hours later, it got hungry and starting eating everything in sight.

IDK why my body is doing this? My diet is not boring, nor am I in a very crazy deep deficit, so this doesn't make sense. Unless my deficit is much larger than I think, but I don't think it is. I eat 2700 calories a day (Maintenance is around 3100), 30 mins of cardio is about 200 cals, and a workout can range from maybe 100-200 cals a day? So I'm assuming i"m in a ~700 deficit, nothing insane enough to cause these binges. But last night I had four buttered rolls, which made me think it wants more fat; the second I eat a Tostito, which is just fat, salt, and corn, it turns into a crack binge, where I have to stop before I eat the whole bag. But it can't be salt, because I put pink salt on every meal; it can't be carbs because I'm still eating over 250 carbs a day.

Maybe it's time for a diet break, or perhaps I need to up the fats?

Any thoughts?


After binge...like thousands of calories over.

 

[Ryu82]

Might be time for a deload week if you have not had any down time yet.

Keep training but back off to 3 or 4 “light” sessions really working the stretch and bring your calories up to maintenance for the week. Focus on getting rest.

The scale will go up some. But then get back to it the following week.

See if that does it.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Might be time for a deload week if you have not had any down time yet.

Keep training but back off to 3 or 4 “light” sessions really working the stretch and bring your calories up to maintenance for the week. Focus on getting rest.

The scale will go up some. But then get back to it the following week.

See if that does it.

I wonder if I can achieve similar if I just cut cardio for the week, rather than the workout, like a cardio deload?

 

[Deleted member 123722]

I'm gonna skip cardio for this entire week, which only equates to around ~1800 calories not burned.