Slowww
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Nice! How did it go?
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Long Off-Season to Classic D Class Weight Cap
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Jtlittle88
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Went great. Don’t have checkins with Luki till next week bc of his travels but I didn’t have an off plan meal on Easter so feeling good about that.
Still just on test and gh right now I’m sure he’ll be adding eq soon or a t least I hope so lol I stocked up on it and ment
Still just on test and gh right now I’m sure he’ll be adding eq soon or a t least I hope so lol I stocked up on it and ment
Slowww
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Nice! Yeah same.
Might have to wait til after your rebound and blood work haha enjoy the process and your strength coming back bro
Slowww
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Tuesday: chest and bis, abs
Weight: 107.05
so this workout my numbers are a bit different. Did my pressing with an MP pro who has a show coming up in Korea soon. So the set up was a bit different for my incline. Strength is definitely the level where I can get work in so that was cool. I still did same workout, just warm up was different, top set on that one exercise. Was cool to lift with someone who has some intensity. Actually I’m pretty surprised because his top set was 3 then 4 to failure with assistance and a full assisted rep with the incline and he is several weeks out. Goes against what all the science nerds preach online. WORKING works, fuck all that in reserve crap
Pec fly
RAMP12 to full stack x 8
Drop 40kg x 8
Incline smith, just took the same weight as the MP guy got more reps for top set, less volume on back off. Incline was double what I would usually set.
1x8 140kg
1x10 100kg
Decline DB
2x8 40kg per hand
1x15 20kg per hand
Incline handed flies superset chest dips
1x12
1x10
1x9 18kg
Superset
2x10
1x8 100kg
Preacher curls
Ramp to 15kg per arm
Hammer curls
3x10 22.5kg
Spider curl FST7 30 s rest
4x15 25kg
3x12 25kg
Weight: 107.05
so this workout my numbers are a bit different. Did my pressing with an MP pro who has a show coming up in Korea soon. So the set up was a bit different for my incline. Strength is definitely the level where I can get work in so that was cool. I still did same workout, just warm up was different, top set on that one exercise. Was cool to lift with someone who has some intensity. Actually I’m pretty surprised because his top set was 3 then 4 to failure with assistance and a full assisted rep with the incline and he is several weeks out. Goes against what all the science nerds preach online. WORKING works, fuck all that in reserve crap
Pec fly
RAMP12 to full stack x 8
Drop 40kg x 8
Incline smith, just took the same weight as the MP guy got more reps for top set, less volume on back off. Incline was double what I would usually set.
1x8 140kg
1x10 100kg
Decline DB
2x8 40kg per hand
1x15 20kg per hand
Incline handed flies superset chest dips
1x12
1x10
1x9 18kg
Superset
2x10
1x8 100kg
Preacher curls
Ramp to 15kg per arm
Hammer curls
3x10 22.5kg
Spider curl FST7 30 s rest
4x15 25kg
3x12 25kg
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Slowww
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Thursday: legs
Weight: 107.2
Body fat seems to be falling slowly, but weight is now stalling out.
Still hitting PRs. Pushed pretty hard today… I added 20kg to my hack squat this week. I’m trying my best to keep improving until my calories drop more. Tempo wasn’t amazing though
Adductors
3x20 50kg
Horizontal Leg curl
Ramp 20 from 9kg to 30kg
Leg extensions
Run the rack in 5s 3/4 stack
Hack squat will write out my warm ups too for reference to note normal volume
Warm up
1x8 120kg
1x6 170kg
1x4 220kg
1x2 260kg
1x1 300kg, felt lighter than last week, decided to throw another set of plates instead of halfs or chips
Top
1x8 340kg
Back off/intensifier
1/2 + 1s
15 x 75kg
Hack press
RAMP 12
From 60kg to 200kg failing at 7
Abductors
2x50 30kg
Split squats
3x12 50kg
I was beat by the end of this session even though some numbers don’t look like much, the hack squat and press variation took a lot out of me. I can do a lot more on leg press but I feel much more quad specificity in the hack press, with some changes to how I use the pad it feels like the Icararian lying sled leg press which I really like and always gets crazy grinding sets to failure
Hack video
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Weight: 107.2
Body fat seems to be falling slowly, but weight is now stalling out.
Still hitting PRs. Pushed pretty hard today… I added 20kg to my hack squat this week. I’m trying my best to keep improving until my calories drop more. Tempo wasn’t amazing though
Adductors
3x20 50kg
Horizontal Leg curl
Ramp 20 from 9kg to 30kg
Leg extensions
Run the rack in 5s 3/4 stack
Hack squat will write out my warm ups too for reference to note normal volume
Warm up
1x8 120kg
1x6 170kg
1x4 220kg
1x2 260kg
1x1 300kg, felt lighter than last week, decided to throw another set of plates instead of halfs or chips
Top
1x8 340kg
Back off/intensifier
1/2 + 1s
15 x 75kg
Hack press
RAMP 12
From 60kg to 200kg failing at 7
Abductors
2x50 30kg
Split squats
3x12 50kg
I was beat by the end of this session even though some numbers don’t look like much, the hack squat and press variation took a lot out of me. I can do a lot more on leg press but I feel much more quad specificity in the hack press, with some changes to how I use the pad it feels like the Icararian lying sled leg press which I really like and always gets crazy grinding sets to failure
Hack video
View attachment FullSizeRender.MOV
Slowww
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Friday: shoulders.
Nothing really to report here, all weights either were the same or improved on smaller muscle group movements. Triceps regained some strength they lost, rear delts as well. Lateral raise variations had some extra weight on top RAMPS and while running the racks.
Now unposed at 108kg.
Stomach fat is being reduced, still have a lot to go. Oddly enough glutes have started show striations, before stomach fat is gone. I think this time I will get into condition I will feel better about moving into the last weight gain phase before preparing to compete.
Nothing really to report here, all weights either were the same or improved on smaller muscle group movements. Triceps regained some strength they lost, rear delts as well. Lateral raise variations had some extra weight on top RAMPS and while running the racks.
Now unposed at 108kg.
Stomach fat is being reduced, still have a lot to go. Oddly enough glutes have started show striations, before stomach fat is gone. I think this time I will get into condition I will feel better about moving into the last weight gain phase before preparing to compete.
Slowww
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Average of 107.5kg (gained weight) so
Diet changed, added 20mcg clen. Also added 175 tren A. On training days- lower carbs. On rest days- lower fats and carbs. No more cheat meals.
This morning woke up at 106kg after the small adjustments.
Training is going well. Last week my RDL with much stricter technique and pre fatigue/ RAMP sets is back at 200kg.
My back is still getting stronger, and my arms started to regain strength.
I overestimated my pressing strength this week though, and I tried to incline press 165kg/365lbs but only got to 4 reps and failed before lock out in 5.. I totally forgot adding 10lbs will take off 2 reps… it scales si much slower than legs. the more weight I add on movements the more it takes to add weight and I don’t think I’m going to be able to get 6+ reps at 165 this cut, so I need to just try to hold 140+ which would still be an entire 40kg more than where I ended my last cut. My pecs when isolated now are still massively stronger than in the past and are holding strength very well.
Now that I am leaner, I finally started to get work again regarding physique/advertisement stuff, will do a shoot with a company that manufactures machines in 2 weeks, and with more aggressive diet i should look leaner before doing it. This would be a first doing work for a brand that makes machines and since I like trying out different ones, it might be interesting.
Diet changed, added 20mcg clen. Also added 175 tren A. On training days- lower carbs. On rest days- lower fats and carbs. No more cheat meals.
This morning woke up at 106kg after the small adjustments.
Training is going well. Last week my RDL with much stricter technique and pre fatigue/ RAMP sets is back at 200kg.
My back is still getting stronger, and my arms started to regain strength.
I overestimated my pressing strength this week though, and I tried to incline press 165kg/365lbs but only got to 4 reps and failed before lock out in 5.. I totally forgot adding 10lbs will take off 2 reps… it scales si much slower than legs. the more weight I add on movements the more it takes to add weight and I don’t think I’m going to be able to get 6+ reps at 165 this cut, so I need to just try to hold 140+ which would still be an entire 40kg more than where I ended my last cut. My pecs when isolated now are still massively stronger than in the past and are holding strength very well.
Now that I am leaner, I finally started to get work again regarding physique/advertisement stuff, will do a shoot with a company that manufactures machines in 2 weeks, and with more aggressive diet i should look leaner before doing it. This would be a first doing work for a brand that makes machines and since I like trying out different ones, it might be interesting.
Slowww
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Weight went up after adding tren.
107.6kg
Starting to get lean enough to practice all poses and make adjustments
Side Tricep has made some improvements, already better shape than full cut, last time.
Can’t wait to be shredded. I’m still on 3.6k calories training days. 2.6k rest iirc
Now I slowly start to take off weight in big shoulder movements too. Only able to seated overhead 160kg x 6 today on the machine. I wanted 8 but for sure I don’t have as much glycogen especially after leg day with lower calories.
Leg day I can still try to add weight but I burned myself out really hard. Hack squat got to 350kg x 7 with fine tempo and control (PR), and I had to sleep as soon as I got home, after the whole session. Next day stuff felt harder for sure recovering.
107.6kg
Starting to get lean enough to practice all poses and make adjustments
Side Tricep has made some improvements, already better shape than full cut, last time.
Can’t wait to be shredded. I’m still on 3.6k calories training days. 2.6k rest iirc
Now I slowly start to take off weight in big shoulder movements too. Only able to seated overhead 160kg x 6 today on the machine. I wanted 8 but for sure I don’t have as much glycogen especially after leg day with lower calories.
Leg day I can still try to add weight but I burned myself out really hard. Hack squat got to 350kg x 7 with fine tempo and control (PR), and I had to sleep as soon as I got home, after the whole session. Next day stuff felt harder for sure recovering.
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Slowww
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105,7kg/233lbs
Front back side. Diet is very easy to follow, really no struggle at all. No Cheat meals,
Front back side. Diet is very easy to follow, really no struggle at all. No Cheat meals,
Slowww
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105.2/232lbs
Front, back, side
I think I made some decent progress, my legs and hamstrings are much clearer despite not being at the end of the cut. Same with tie ins on shoulders etc. I’m still holding fat on my lower gut, pecs, and glutes mostly.
Condition slowly improving,
Strength holding pretty decently. Still able to incline 150kg for 7, overhead machine 160kg for 9, RDL 200 for 5, hack squat 350kg for 8. Pec fly also is maintaining well, back all movements are same weight.
Front, back, side
I think I made some decent progress, my legs and hamstrings are much clearer despite not being at the end of the cut. Same with tie ins on shoulders etc. I’m still holding fat on my lower gut, pecs, and glutes mostly.
Condition slowly improving,
Strength holding pretty decently. Still able to incline 150kg for 7, overhead machine 160kg for 9, RDL 200 for 5, hack squat 350kg for 8. Pec fly also is maintaining well, back all movements are same weight.
Slowww
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Diet and cycle changing.
125 test C or E e2d
50mg tren Ace e2d
200 mast e2d
5iu gh
100mcg t4 ed morning empty stomach
exemestane 12,5 mg (1/2 tab.) e2d
HCG 125iu e3-4d
clenbuterol 40mcg every day on empty stomach
Training days
P-300 c-560 f-15
Rest days
P-200 c-200 f-65
Cardio
5x35 min bicycle (daily bike ride on work days with my daughter to school & commute)
1x35 min incline treadmill (Saturday)
Notes: I am being more cautious about lifts engaging my lower back, because if lower calories it is not recovering as quickly as before.
I didn’t expect this, so I really am using a much stricter tempo on RDLs, hip thrusts, and back day to make sure I really moderate the engagement surrounding the lumbar spine.
After my accident last year, not doing further damage on my spine is basically top priority. I 100% saw some atrophy on my left leg after the injury and I really want to avoid it since it was a painstaking process to heal and fix the imbalance.
My bodybuilding recently got much more affordable, as I took a fitness industry job on top of my day job which I fly out for once or twice a month and it fully pays for several months of gear after one working day. Nothing crazy just some video/photo
and reviewing/giving feedback about machines.
Body building is not a cheap hobby especially the food during my off season and the growth hormone, so I am glad it is now not only going to be paying for itself but also giving back more than I pay for it. I just like body building and never felt entitled to get something back from it, so I feel very thankful and blessed that I can now make some extra money just doing something I wholeheartedly enjoy and it is no longer a financial strain but a benefit.
125 test C or E e2d
50mg tren Ace e2d
200 mast e2d
5iu gh
100mcg t4 ed morning empty stomach
exemestane 12,5 mg (1/2 tab.) e2d
HCG 125iu e3-4d
clenbuterol 40mcg every day on empty stomach
Training days
P-300 c-560 f-15
Rest days
P-200 c-200 f-65
Cardio
5x35 min bicycle (daily bike ride on work days with my daughter to school & commute)
1x35 min incline treadmill (Saturday)
Notes: I am being more cautious about lifts engaging my lower back, because if lower calories it is not recovering as quickly as before.
I didn’t expect this, so I really am using a much stricter tempo on RDLs, hip thrusts, and back day to make sure I really moderate the engagement surrounding the lumbar spine.
After my accident last year, not doing further damage on my spine is basically top priority. I 100% saw some atrophy on my left leg after the injury and I really want to avoid it since it was a painstaking process to heal and fix the imbalance.
My bodybuilding recently got much more affordable, as I took a fitness industry job on top of my day job which I fly out for once or twice a month and it fully pays for several months of gear after one working day. Nothing crazy just some video/photo
and reviewing/giving feedback about machines.
Body building is not a cheap hobby especially the food during my off season and the growth hormone, so I am glad it is now not only going to be paying for itself but also giving back more than I pay for it. I just like body building and never felt entitled to get something back from it, so I feel very thankful and blessed that I can now make some extra money just doing something I wholeheartedly enjoy and it is no longer a financial strain but a benefit.
Ryu82
Member
Very cool man about the side gig.
Slowww
Member
Discussed gyno removal with my coach, and now will go in for a screening this week. Planning on having it removed in the coming month when my body fat is very low. I’ve had gyno since puberty, and I don’t like how it looks on my front double, and ab and thigh shots. Frankly I don’t want to get on stage with gyno. I don’t have a problem with it, or some kind of insecurity and I have competed in water polo, swim and Muay Thai without shirts when I was natural and had small gyno but those sports don’t judge the physique.
Just gonna get it out of the way asap since it is really distracting in the context of classic physique (lines, flow etc) and I believe it will influence the overall look presented on stage.
Just gonna get it out of the way asap since it is really distracting in the context of classic physique (lines, flow etc) and I believe it will influence the overall look presented on stage.
Ryu82
Member
Really looking forward to seeing the updates on this is your having it done over here. Something I have been considering for a long time but honestly not sure about the skillset of local surgeons.
Slowww
Member
Hopefully it goes well, cosmetic surgery is super popular in the city I live in and I found a place that specializes in gyno removal. Doing a minimally invasive surgery is pretty affordable quoted at like 6-8k with a 2-4 week recovery and no scarring. Traditional with stitches here is still available at 4k+ but after seeing the before and after pictures of post minimally invasive at the clinic I just decided to do it this way. So I will be back to training chest very fast, missing 3-4 sessions of only chest, in the last few years is really not a big deal haha.
If it goes well I can definitely share the contact for the surgeon if you’re interested
Jtlittle88
Member
I had mine removed last year. Best decision of my life
malfeasance
Member
Isn't that a lot where you live? What is the median monthly or annual income?
Slowww
Member
The median monthly income here is about 4,600 rmb -about 640Usd (amounts in first post are also RMB not USD, so it is 600-1,200 USD for the procedure. since we were talking about it locally).
So it is not very inexpensive for most locals, but generally for ex pats the wages will be much higher due to the type of work they are doing since we cannot enter the country to do unskilled labour, and they don’t have immigration, accept refugees etc. the same way the western countries do.
Ryu82
Member
Yes sir, please do. Its a pretty quick trip over that way on the high speed.
Slowww
Member
Gyno situation update: so definitely do have gyno based on scans, the glands are about 2 & 2.3 inches.
We discussed the entire procedure + recovery. My surgery will have to be modified slightly due to the fact that the nipples are unusually small. (Alpha male nipples that defy science) and cost for bilateral gyno removal. Will come out to approximately 2,000 USD (14,000RMB) to fully remove it. The doctor also said that because of the muscularity of the upper pec, where the gyno is, and my fat distribution— there will likely be a big difference in the appearance— the upper pec will look more developed than it currently does in comparison to the lower pec.
I will remove it after I am finished with this cut and no longer using trenbololone and masteron, and will be rebounding because we only a little test (around 300mg per week, and some gh), that way I can be on minimal gear, in a health phase during recovery and will not skip chest sessions when I’m really getting stronger and putting on new tissue.
So the doctor just said to book an appointment 5-7 days in advance at a minimum, which means I can wait until we’re closer to the end of the cut specifically
We discussed the entire procedure + recovery. My surgery will have to be modified slightly due to the fact that the nipples are unusually small. (Alpha male nipples that defy science) and cost for bilateral gyno removal. Will come out to approximately 2,000 USD (14,000RMB) to fully remove it. The doctor also said that because of the muscularity of the upper pec, where the gyno is, and my fat distribution— there will likely be a big difference in the appearance— the upper pec will look more developed than it currently does in comparison to the lower pec.
I will remove it after I am finished with this cut and no longer using trenbololone and masteron, and will be rebounding because we only a little test (around 300mg per week, and some gh), that way I can be on minimal gear, in a health phase during recovery and will not skip chest sessions when I’m really getting stronger and putting on new tissue.
So the doctor just said to book an appointment 5-7 days in advance at a minimum, which means I can wait until we’re closer to the end of the cut specifically
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