temptation and striving for more.... but health should be the main goal in life

[rigs03]

She is spoiled. I've been done with the 15mg ED of Tren A for a week now and sexual function is back to normal as well as sleep. However, I am considering trying again in a few weeks after my doctor appointment and still do the 15mg ED with a TRT dose of Test instead of 375mg EW. Does the low dose of Tren affect your sleep?

Kind of want to figure out how to address the sides before going back on. Just being on it for three days I could tell the Tren was going to have a positive effect on my body composition. Maybe there is nothing I can do to minimize the sides.

So you got sides to the point where you had to quit at 105mg/wk? That is crazy man.

I'm a big fan of running my tren higher than test. People can argue which way is better til the end of time, but in the end it's all about how it effects your individual body, and for me this is when the sides go away. May be worth a shot if you're still wanting to run tren but couldn't take the sides.

 

[foreveryoung]

I'm finding libido is getting stronger the lower I drop the testosterone dose, probably going to stick with about 100 mg test cypionate per week and around 70 mg of tren.... for now

libido distracting, it is so strong lately it often interferes with me getting work done, erections could be better though, they are very strong when very stimulated but not great at maintaining erection if mental and physical stimulation aren't strong .. pt141 solves that but I hate to go that route too often

 

[foreveryoung]

just as an example, yesterday my girlfriend was giving me oral, I was really turned on and dying to cum, but as I got close I actually started to lose erection where she said "it's getting soft?!?" I told her "it feels amazing, I'm close to cumming, please keep going". She did and a bit later I had a strong orgasm which was preceded by a very strong erection moments before as it built up

so that is ok with a handjob or bj, but the going soft issue kind of wrecks regular sex when it happens as she is close to cumming

 

[tmac34]

So you got sides to the point where you had to quit at 105mg/wk? That is crazy man.

I'm a big fan of running my tren higher than test. People can argue which way is better til the end of time, but in the end it's all about how it effects your individual body, and for me this is when the sides go away. May be worth a shot if you're still wanting to run tren but couldn't take the sides.

Hey Rigs -Yeah, I am going to try the tren higher than test eventually. Plan on increasing the Tren while dropping the test dose down. Currently I am at 40mg of Tren ED and everything seems fine except more difficult time sleeping and assumed sexual dysfunction. Haven't had a session with the wife in a few days to confirm, but things don't seem right so not a lot of confidence there. Last shot of Test at 375mg was nearly a week ago and plan to to drop it to 150mg. Hope is that this will help with the potential sexual dysfunction.

 

[foreveryoung]

Hey Rigs -Yeah, I am going to try the tren higher than test eventually. Plan on increasing the Tren while dropping the test dose down. Currently I am at 40mg of Tren ED and everything seems fine except more difficult time sleeping and assumed sexual dysfunction. Haven't had a session with the wife in a few days to confirm, but things don't seem right so not a lot of confidence there. Last shot of Test at 375mg was nearly a week ago and plan to to drop it to 150mg. Hope is that this will help with the potential sexual dysfunction.

good to see you joining in, hope you keep us updated here with your progress, I still haven't got this all figured out

 

[tmac34]

Had a session with the wife last night and it was a monumental success. Libido wasn't great during the day and leading up to the sex, but once she straddled me and said she wanted me to fuck her; that did it. Great erection and really engaged in the sex. Went twice last night. Took 50mg Viagra before hand, but wondering if I even needed it. Pinned 30mg of Tren this morning and plan on pinning 140mg of Test E and 400mg of Mast tomorrow. Been two weeks on the Mast and haven't noticed much. Might drop it soon.

 

[foreveryoung]

400mg of mast would give me a headache and lots of hair falling out and maybe difficulty pissing

 

[tmac34]

Probably been three weeks and I haven't noticed much. Prostate feels a bit aggravated though. Probably going to drop it.

Another night of multiple sessions with the wife last night. Libido really high and I don't think the erections could get any better. Still with 50mg Viagra though.

 

[foreveryoung]

Probably been three weeks and I haven't noticed much. Prostate feels a bit aggravated though. Probably going to drop it.

Another night of multiple sessions with the wife last night. Libido really high and I don't think the erections could get any better. Still with 50mg Viagra though.

I might try adding the masteron in again, even with the tren I'm not looking as hard in the midsection as I was

 

[tmac34]

How much Mast were you running? Did you notice it helped with libido? I started Mast E three weeks ago, so it is probably kicking in. Hard to discern if my uptick in libido is the Mast E or the Tren A I started six days ago. Now I know why people suggest adding one compound at time and being patient.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

I might try adding the masteron in again, even with the tren I'm not looking as hard in the midsection as I was

What is your protocol now FEY?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

How much Mast were you running? Did you notice it helped with libido? I started Mast E three weeks ago, so it is probably kicking in. Hard to discern if my uptick in libido is the Mast E or the Tren A I started six days ago. Now I know why people suggest adding one compound at time and being patient.

Yea, makes it hard to tell.. Where is your mast from? PM if you prefer..

 

[foreveryoung]

in the past I have thought there were times that masteron was actually hurting my libido, maybe competing for dht receptors or something, I don't really know

on another topic, did some pt141 again last night and had a big night, she had 2 strong orgasms and I had two strong orgasms, a couple of hours apart, nausea and ill feelings weren't all that bad for a change for some reason

my current protocol, no AI, no Hcg, occasional cialis, viagra often, approx 120mg test cyp per week, approx 100 mg tren ace per week, split into every 3 day injections

 

[foreveryoung]

experiment time, protocol been going quite well, some room for improvement, going to add in a little masteron again, just added 30mg to today's shot

 

[foreveryoung]

trying to optimize for libido and erections might be non-optimal for mood though, lowering test and keeping tren at a moderately low level has helped a lot with libido, but I find I am a bit more at a feeling of uneasiness and often a little grumpy... Not a temper thing though, just a persisting unsettled feeling of mood. Adding the masteron in I am expecting this feeling to get a bit worse which is what prompts my posting about it.

I am thinking there won't be a perfect solution for everything.

 

[tmac34]

I've been pinning 400mg of Mast for the last three weeks and I don't feel much of anything. Starting to wonder if it is legit. Apparently it hard to find.

My libido has cooled off in the last couple days. I am at 50mg Tren ED and my last pin on Test E was 140mg down from the previous week of 375mg. Enjoying the Tren overall except starting to get muscle cramps. No sweats or bad insomnia. Libido definitely down from a week ago though.

 

[foreveryoung]

How long are you going to stay at such high doses?

 

[tmac34]

I was planning on running the Tren for 4-6 weeks depending on sides and how I feel. Going to drop the Mast if I don't feel anything from this most recent pin of 400mg. From what I understand Mast should make your libido crazy. Had one person describe his experience as wanting to fuck every woman in sight. Not happening for me though. Going to keep the Test at 140mg EW going forward. I play in an adult basketball league and just trying to perform my best on and off the court. Life before TRT and the eventual higher doses was not good for me. 20lbs heavier and felt lethargic all the time. I tried doing it the natural way by eating better and exercising consitently for more than a year, but my TT was still around 260. Didn't realize how old I felt until the TRT regiment kicked in. Can't imagine going back.

 

[tmac34]

I'm finding libido is getting stronger the lower I drop the testosterone dose, probably going to stick with about 100 mg test cypionate per week and around 70 mg of tren.... for now

libido distracting, it is so strong lately it often interferes with me getting work done, erections could be better though, they are very strong when very stimulated but not great at maintaining erection if mental and physical stimulation aren't strong .. pt141 solves that but I hate to go that route too often

Are you using an AI? If so, what dose?

 

[foreveryoung]

Are you using an AI? If so, what dose?

No AI, no Hcg.... those are two things I avoid like the plague