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temptation and striving for more.... but health should be the main goal in life

added a little bit of tren to yesterday's injection, maybe 20mg or so tren ace with my trt test dosage.... test alone leaves me a little soft in the abs and my girlfriend mentions it often when it happens (when we started dating I was on tren, masteron, arimidex also and extremely lean with paper thin skin on my 6 pack, with test only it is impossible to keep that super dry ripped look (even though I still have an ok 6 pack in my opinion, just not magazine cover ripped so I kind of spoiled my girl by starting out that way)
 
She is spoiled. I've been done with the 15mg ED of Tren A for a week now and sexual function is back to normal as well as sleep. However, I am considering trying again in a few weeks after my doctor appointment and still do the 15mg ED with a TRT dose of Test instead of 375mg EW. Does the low dose of Tren affect your sleep?

Kind of want to figure out how to address the sides before going back on. Just being on it for three days I could tell the Tren was going to have a positive effect on my body composition. Maybe there is nothing I can do to minimize the sides.
 
my sleep is so erratic and I've been used to that for years I don't know how to answer that, I sometimes only get a few hours sleep a day, and often get up multiple times during it, at most I really probably only get 6 hours on a good day with multiple interruptions. I feel as though the test and tren make me more able to handle the lack of sleep, although I do get very drowsy at times and drink a lot of coffee.

The cabergoline has me really nodding off almost narcoleptic when I take it, which is another reason I avoid that drug.
 
I've already noticed the thermogenic effect of the 20mg I injected yesterday, I think that is what makes it so good at body recomposition, upping the dose just a bit more and sweat starts to pour from me and my bed sheets are often soaking. At the 20mg dose it isn't that bad, but my sexual function really gets erratic, I'm going to need to perform sexually the rest of the week so that will be it for the tren for the next while, I have a feeling I won't be very good in bed today with the girlfriend, good thing I am good at oral but unfortunately she says the orgasm from penis feels so much better that I am always under the pressure of being able to perform when she wants it.

The stress of having a hot young girlfriend, life was simpler when I was single and could really mess up my hormones and only have myself to answer to, lol.
 
Gotcha about the sleep. Mine hasn't always been the best either. That is a lot of pressure I am sure. I have a wife approaching 40 and it's possible I could tell her I am going be out of commission for a bit and she might be ok with that since frequency has been markedly increased since TRT. I am hoping 3 days was not enough to assess the sides and that the sexual dysfunction would have subsided, but it sounds like that will not be the case. Like you, low libido and sexual dysfunction effects me psychologically. I have some Mast I have yet to pin, so I may try that after my appointment.
 
well showing me the unexpected and unpredictability still, I was expecting poor libido and function as I took a break from the cialis and viagra and pt141 and added the tren, but either there is still an attainable sweet spot in dosage and timing, or maybe it's always going to be a moving target, libido good and spontaneous strong erection this morning. For reference, last injection was 2 days ago 20mg tren ace 85mg test cyp. Been a couple weeks since a single dose of caber also .
 
foreveryoung said:
well showing me the unexpected and unpredictability still, I was expecting poor libido and function as I took a break from the cialis and viagra and pt141 and added the tren, but either there is still an attainable sweet spot in dosage and timing, or maybe it's always going to be a moving target, libido good and spontaneous strong erection this morning. For reference, last injection was 2 days ago 20mg tren ace 85mg test cyp. Been a couple weeks since a single dose of caber also .
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Very interested in your experiment here, thanks for sharing.

I have been contemplating the very thing, cialis/viagra and tren to add to my TRT. Dosages and timing to maintian performance are my concerns as they appear to be with you. Thanks again, you are filling in some blanks for me.

Mac
 
I'd really like to get a maintainable protocol that would give good libido or at the very least good erection function every day without the need for cialis or pt141, I feel close to that with a low dose of tren and moderate dose of test, but could still be a lot better. seems if I drop the tren then libido suffers but erection quality when I use the cialis/viagra and/or pt141 is better... if tren dose gets higher libido increases but function decreases. Testosterone same thing, if dose gets higher then problems increase.


I don't like the sides of the cialis viagra and pt141 and other than sex, feel healthiest when I avoid those. It's a tricky juggling act trying to keep the girlfriend happy and weighing in my own wanting to feel ok all day.

had a really bad night on the pt141 the other day, too sick feeling to even have sex, guess the timing with eating dinner wasn't good but felt so bad all night long
 
^^^^^ I hear you brother, I hope this isnt one of those "have our cake and eat it too" stituations. I have to admit it is fun to experiment. Developing the knowledge to correct course when things get sideways is the ride we are on.

I have some tren on the way, so will beginning my walk on this path soon.
 
I've been watching true blood with the girlfriend lately, lots of guys looking tren/ai shredded on that show with their shirts off, so that adds a bit of the body dysmorphia to the equation, I know I can look the same as they do but there is a cost of the side effects.... I know I still look good now but at the moment I'm a step or two away from the magazine cover shredded abs look that the guys on that show all have in their shirt-off scenes, I was ripped up like that last year, all it takes for me is more tren and a little bit of ai, unfortunately the trade off of looking that ripped up leaves me with really fucked up sexual function, terrible catch 22

it's a tough call and more pressure added to my life, I am tempted though, I might try to get close to that look though by cutting testosterone down and upping the tren, and still avoid the AI (although the combination of tren and arimidex is a real powerful way to look very good), I expect that this will still mess me up with sides and function though if I go that route
 
feeling pretty good lately, libido too stirong at times and distracting, been avoiding the pt141 and actually getting ok function with viagra, orgasms are powerful
 
I don't mean to be offensive, but if your girlfriend would think less of you for having a nice six pack vs an ultra ripped eight pack, is she really the kind of girl you want?
 
TheronB said:
I don't mean to be offensive, but if your girlfriend would think less of you for having a nice six pack vs an ultra ripped eight pack, is she really the kind of girl you want?
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it's not really like that, she loves me to death, but there is still always a desire to be the hottest you can be to your lover, she still calls me sexy all the time and wants me to take off my shirt
 
Do you even know she'd prefer the shredded look. I mean most girls I've known have preferred the ripped and moderately bulky look with a tiny bit of fat to the totally shredded and chiseled to hell look.

Either way, it sounds to me as an observer that it isn't worth it. Lifelong maintenance surely is preferable.
 
She mentioned that she liked it when my abs were chiseled, how she loved to run her fingernails on them, she does prefer the shredded look ... Check out some true blood episodes (hugely popular series with women) and you'll see the ideal male physique in women's minds, they like the ripped not too big verging on skinny look
 
I've been bringing testosterone dose down, have had it at higher trt dosages for a while but recently been ramping it down with seemingly good results, probably going to try and see what about a 100 to 125 mg per week dosage might work out.... keeping tren dosage relatively low as well
 
One interesting thing I've noticed consistently when I've ran tren as part of my trt at lower doses is pre-cum volume increased from being negligible when on testosterone only, I wonder what the mechanism of that could be
 
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