2,4-DiNitroPhenol [DNP]

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HOW TO NOT FUCK UP DNP:

Since some guys have been playing around and disrespecting DNP and then griping to the forums about the painful results, we need to make this VERY specific and VERY correct so that people won't keep jumping for DNP out of curiosity, or without the willpower they need to operate this respondibly. So here are my experienced guidelines to using it the RIGHT way.

FIRST GUIDLINE: Dosing. Use ONLY 200mg a day for the first four days. I don't care that you don't "feel" anything yet and you wanna bump it up. DNP accumulates in the body, and not "feeling" something means NOTHING. It's there, and it's working (the effect on metabolism begins within two hours of the first dose!). Four days will let you test your tolerance: do you have an allergy? Does it give you a rash? etc.
Only after those four days do you bump it up, by 200mg a day. The average dose is 400-600/day, and more than that gets a little severe. A full gram is the highest dose I've heard anyone use. I've used that much, and it's hell. I like to stay around 600 a day, which is HOT but safe and effective. Take caps even hours apart through the day, ending about 4-5 PM.

SECOND GUIDLINE...How to eat on DNP. This is purely personal experience, because some guys like to carb-deplete *before* using DNP (then eat carbs as usual while on), and other guys like a low-carb approach throughout. Both are fine. Using DNP is the only time that fructose is a desireable cutting carb, because it keeps the liver replentished. That reduces lethargy and spares muscle.
Be aware that eating high-carb foods WILL increase the heat sensation within an hour, and last about 2 hours. That means don't eat carbs before bed unless you want those night sweats to be even WORSE.
Personally, I ate whatever the hell I wanted! IHOP, chinese, fajitas...Yes, I burned hot, but I still lost 1.5 pounds every 2 days. Keep protein HIGH for muscles' sake, and try it yourself.

Foods I suggest including:
Blueberry yogurt. Blueberries are excellent antioxidants, and yogurt cultures help with digestive function, gas, and stool consistency (disgustingly soft stools are common during DNP).
Oregano-based foods. Oregano is perhaps one of the most potent antioxidants around,a nd one spoonful counts as a vegetable serving. See this article
Pineapple - I've found that pineapple helps alleviate those "DNP Blues". The fructose helps, and pineapple enzymes aid in protein digestion.
V8 - one 12-ounce can supplies six servings of veggies, concentrated as an excellent source of antioxidants, lycopene, and recovery of electrolytes.
Oatmeal - high-fiber foods are necessary. You'll find out why around, oh, day 5 or so. Trust me.


THIRD GUIDELINE...Supplements and DNP. I suggest:
ECA - DNP is not a stimulant. To keep energy high and aid in fat loss, use an ECA. Some advisors suggest that regular ephedrine is preferable to norephedrine because of the more direct "hit" of energy.
Prohormones - perfectly fine on DNP. I used 1-AD just to help keep strength and muscle up, and it worked fine. No problems here. You won't GROW muscle on DNP, but it'll help with strength and protection.
Obvious stuff - multivitamin, ZMA, etc.
Biotest PowerDrive - No, I'm not pimping Biotest. But PowerDrive is an excellent pre-workout mixture that actually works. Plus it's low-carb (only 15 calories total), so it won't cause carb-heat in the middle of your workout.

Antioxidants - I'm giving my own personal list, and why I use them:
Alpha Lipoic Acid - aids in fat management and blood sugar, and an excellent antioxidant.
Grape seed extract
Syntrax Radox
Green Tea
Inositol - mood enhancement, antioxidant, and muscle support. 1 gram/3x day
Ellagic acid - protects cell DNA/RNA from damage by free radicals, and may even atack cancerous cells. 400mg/twice a day
Fruit antioxidants - beyond-a-century's powder of high-potency natural fruit anti's. 1 gram, 2-3x day.
Trimethylglyceine - antioxidant, helps move fat and blood lipids into the liver and out of the body. 500mg, 2x day.
Vitamins E and C

Supplements NOT to use:
Any medications that suppress energy. No allergy meds, antidepressants, muscle relaxers, or beta blockers. DNP will have you low as it is; don't worsen your body's energy by taking something that suppresses you further.

DRUGS - Sheesh, you'd think I wouldn't have to mention this, but two idiots in particular (right here on this forum) recently affirmed that some people still just don't get it. NO alcohol (not even "moderate"), NO ecstasy, NO GHB, etc. If you don't have the willpower to forego these habits, DNP is not for you.

Syntrax Swole - a personal discovery. I tried Swole while on DNP...once. Two hours of hell, feeling inside-out.

FOURTH GUIDELINE...working out on DNP. Keep lifting short, 30-40 minutes. DNP works very well, causing your body to use 150% or more the calories per action you'd normally use. That means DON'T try to repeat your usual workouts. Drop to moderate weights, 8-12 reps, not to failure, and with plenty of walking rest between sets. You are NOT going to grow muscle on DNP, so don't use your usual heavy routine. Since DNP can cause light-headedness and heat dizzyness, you have my permission to skip squats in favor of leg presses this time.

Cardio is a controversial one. My advice - do NOT do cardio on high doses of DNP (600mg or more). It's dangerous and counterproductive. Below that amount, some cardio is fine, but keep it to 20 minutes and not at full-gallop. Remember, DNP will drain water from your quickly, causing you to leech out minerals, vitamins, and salts. Don't overdo it.

During exercise, consume at least 1 liter of water per 30 minutes of work, whether you're thirsty or not. DNP is evil in the way it blunts thirst, while at the same time doing the cruel trick of bloating your body with water WHILE dehydrating you from water in your organs. MAKE yourself drink. Always folllow DNP exercise with antioxidants, carbs, and this is a good time to use your multivitamin.

Don't feel embarrassed about poor workouts. Just this morjning I did a workout with a whopping nine sets (wimp!) before calling it quits. Listen to your body, and let it tell you when enough's enough; don't guage workouts by what you *usually* can do otherwise.

Here's my research. This is AMAZING! Not only has not a single test found it to be carcinogenic, but test after tyest after test find that DNP actually ATTACKS cancer cells, and helps anti-cancer medications work better, and helps anti-leukemia medications work without destroying cell DNA, and suppresses tumor growth by 20-50%. The summaries are all right here, friends. Karma me up!

DNP is Ames negative, and does not promote tumors. See for yourself at http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/

http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/hlthef/dinitrop.html (2,4-Dinitrophenol | Technology Transfer Network Air Toxics Web site | US EPA) reports on health risks. While there have not been human studies, animal studies found no cancers caused by DNP administration. It is considered a toxin because it causes nausea, sweating, and weight loss.

Cyberiron.com reports on halth risks from external exposue. In other words, don?t get it in your eyes, or on your skin if you?re allergic. Pretty elementary stuff.

http://www.ebec2000.com/abstracts/056.htm This animal study documents a 64% increase in metabolism. "These findings confirm that DNP effectively increases metabolic rate..." Duh.

Biosource A PDF file about an antidote to DNP.

http://www.boehringer-ingelheim.es/...glesa/cap13.htm finds that DNP did not activate liver enzymes (MAT) associated with liver damage

"Comparative study of toxicity of 4-nitrophenol and 2,4-dinitrophenol in newborn and young rats." Koizumi M, Yamamoto Y, Ito Y, Takano M, Enami T, Kamata E, Hasegawa R. Division of Risk Assessment, National Institute of Health Sciences, 1-18-1 Kamiyoga, Setagaya-ku, Tokyo 158-8501, Japan. This study found that DNP can induce death in overdosed amounts, but that up to that point no toxicity was evident, nor were there any abnormalities in physical development.

"Phenol toxicity and conjugation in human colonic epithelial cells." Pedersen G, Brynskov J, Saermark T. Dept of Medical Gastroenterology, Herlev University Hospital, Copenhagen, Denmark.. This study found that DNP has a toxic effect on cells of the colon, with "toxic" defined in two ways: first, it interfered with metabolism (this we know?it?s the intended effect of DNP users!) and second, it interfered with bowel inflammation (not a health risk. This is caused by osmotic effect, with the worst results being softened stools and gas).

"Mechanisms of bacterial resistance to macrolide antibiotics." Nakajima Y. Division of Microbiology, Hokkaido College of Pharmacy, 7-1 Katsuraoka-cho, Otaru, Hokkaido 047-0264, Japan. This study found that antibiotic-resistant bacteria could be thwarted with DNP. "the extent of the accumulated drug in a resistant cell increases as much as that in a susceptible cell in the presence of an uncoupling agent such as?2,4-dinitrophenol (DNP)."

"Absence of Crabtree effect in human melanoma cells adapted to growth at low pH: reversal by respiratory inhibitors." Burd R, Wachsberger PR, Biaglow JE, Wahl ML, Lee I, Leeper DB. Departments of Radiation Oncology, Kimmel Cancer Center, Thomas Jefferson University, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19107, USA. Check this out?DNP actually helps make melanoma tumors easier to attack by increasing ratio of oxygen consumption to lactic acid production, while glycolysis remains the same. "Therefore, tumor acute acidification and oxygenation can be achieved by exposure?"


"New insights in the cellular processing of platinum antitumor compounds, using fluorophore-labeled platinum complexes and digital fluorescence microscopy."
Molenaar C, Teuben JM, Heetebrij RJ, Tanke HJ, Reedijk J. Department of Molecular Cell Biology, Leiden University Medical Centre, The Netherlands. DNP is used as a control in tests of antitumor cells because it does NOT bind to cell DNA, nor promote tumors, yet its staining abilities enable tracking of the uptake of antitumor drugs.

Specific inhibition of breast cancer cells by antisense poly-DNP-oligoribonucleotides and targeted apoptosis." Ru K, Taub ML, Wang JH. Department of Biochemistry, State University of New York, Buffalo 14260-3000, USA Are you ready for this? DNP actually INHIBITS (!!!) breast cancers! Yes, not only does it NOT promote cancers, it?s being recognized as a cancer-fighter/blocker. "Two membrane-permeable and RNase-resistant antisense poly-2'-O-(2,4-dinitrophenyl)-oligoribonucleotides (poly-DNP-RNAs) have been synthesized as inhibitors of human breast cancer?fluorescence assay indicates that the targeted antisense inhibition by poly-DNP-RNAs leads to apoptosis of SK-Br-3 cells but does not affect nontumorigenic MCF-10A cells. The control poly-DNP-RNAs with random or sense nucleotide sequence are completely inactive." Plain English? DNP can be synthesized as an anti-cancer compound, because tests show that it blocks mutagens but does NOT affect non-mutagenic (healthy) cells, and has no RNA effects on them.

"Heat shock protein induction by certain chemical stressors is correlated with their cytotoxicity, lipophilicity and protein-denaturing capacity." Neuhaus-Steinmetz U, Rensing L. Institute of Cell Biology, Biochemistry and Biotechnology, NW II University of Bremen, Germany. The thermic effect of DNP induces protein synthesis (heat shock protein, or HSP, synthesis). In fact, it?s quite GOOD at it: "ASA, DNP and CCCP induced HSP at lower concentrations than substances with a similar lipophilicity?"

"Comparative effects of the metabolic inhibitors 2,4-dinitrophenol and iodoacetate on mouse neuroblastoma cells in vitro." Andres MI, Repetto G, Sanz P, Repetto M.
National Institute of Toxicology, Seville, Spain. In this study, DNP?s observed effect was an increase in metabolism (duh!), while the other toxins compared to it had harmful in vitro effects but no increase in metabolism.

"Inhibition of uncoupled respiration in tumor cells. A possible role of mitochondrial Ca2+ efflux." Gabai VL.Medical Radiology Research Center, Russian Academy of Medical Sciences, Obninsk. DNP not only does not cause tumors, but it inhibited their respiration by 20-25% compared to controls.

"Amsacrine-induced lesions in DNA and their modulation by novobiocin and 2,4-dinitrophenol." Shibuya ML, Buddenbaum WE, Don AL, Utsumi H, Suciu D, Kosaka T, Elkind MM. Department of Radiology and Radiation Biology, Colorado State University, Fort Collins 80523. In this study, researchers found that DNP abrogates?or disrupts?cytotoxicity in hamsters (using cancerous cells). They expected to find that DNP would interfere with anticancer treatments, but instead found that DNP increased their effects. They state, though, that they cannot claim a proven effect of DNP on anticancer treatments yet, although they do agree that treatment with DNP actually enhanced the effects of the DNA regenerative therapy of anticancer chemotherapy.

"Induction of endonucleolytic DNA cleavage in human acute myelogenous leukemia cells by etoposide, camptothecin, and other cytotoxic anticancer drugs: a cautionary note." Kaufmann SH. Oncology Center, Johns Hopkins Hospital, Baltimore, Maryland 21205. The authors warn that certain anti-leukemia drugs resulted in "extensive DNA degradation." BUT (good ol? DNP to the rescue!), "Preincubation with dinitrophenol abolished the effect?"

"[Dependence of the nature of the action of metabolic inhibitors on ribosomal RNA synthesis in Ehrlich ascites carcinoma cells on cell integrity]" [Article in Russian] Akhlynina TV, Buzhurina IM, Panov MA, Rozovskaia IA, Chernaia NG. DNP actually inhibits the synthesis of RNA in carcinoma cells. In other words, it helps cancerous cells commit suicide by neutering themselves. "Ribosomal RNA (rRNA) synthesis in the intact Ehrlich ascite carcinoma cells is selectively inhibited by papaverin (ED50 = 0.01 mM), 2,4-dinitrophenol (DPN; ED50 = 5 microM), and actinomycin D (ED50 = 0.1 microgram/ml)."

"Autocatabolism of surface macromolecules shed by human melanoma cells." Bystryn JC, Perlstein J. Cancer Res 1982 Jun;42(6):2232-7. This study finds that DNP helps melanoma cells die (autocatabolize) while other cells are unaffected.

http://www.geocities.com/byggdegstor/dnpforside - tons of research, including medical studies. Excerpts:

DNP does not cause liver damage: "Their analyses demonstrate, beyond a doubt, that the liver does not suffer any damage in the course of dinitro treatment." (Biological Study of Dinitro Drugs in Humans By Dr. Jacques Bell. Bell, Jacques. 1939. Etude biologique des produits dinitres chez l'homme. Medecine. 19:749-54. Translation ? 1996 Robert Ames)

Also: "Experimental studies on animals do not show toxic effects of dinitrophenol on the kidney. Anatomical-pathological examinations of animals, even those which died from a massive dose of dinitrophenol, do not reveal any important anatomical changes, except a small degree of cytolysis. Clinical documents are not abundant, but, on the whole, do not seem to demonstrate that dinitrophenol is toxic for the kidneys."

"Dinitrophenol has almost no action on the blood cholesterol. (Grant and Schube)."

"it doesn't seem that dinitrophenol at usual clinical doses is likely to harm the kidneys."

"Dinitrophenol is remarkable for its absence of effect on the cardio-vascular system...dinitrophenol is absolutely devoid of toxicity for the heart."

"Dinitrophenol does not attack cell tissue albumin and does not determine the fat loss to the expense of the muscles, contrary to thyroxine."

"dinitrophenol offers this precious advantage that the cessation of its use at the slightest appearance of signs indicating an imminence of intoxication results immediately in the arrest of those symptoms." (Professor Pouchet)."


Interestingly, one medical theory on a health ADVANTAGE of DNP is that the slight increase in thermogenic temperature simulates the fever a body induces during a viral attack. The body increases itsheat to protect organs but kill viruses, and some theorize that DNP can do the same thing, thus killing viruses in the body. In this mechanism, DNP may have an immune-enhancing effect.
 
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As requested, please find attached an Excel worksheet that is a starter for monitoring dnp levels within the body based on dosing at any point throughout the day. To use:

(1) in the date column, put in the date and time when you are taking a cap of dnp
(2) in the corresponding dose column, put in the appropriate amount of dnp POWDER in the cap that you just ingested in step 1

(3) the spreadsheet should monitor / calculate your dnp level at any point in the future. To estimate at some point beyond your last dose, just input the date and time you wish information on, put the next dose at zero, and you should see the dnp level within your body at that time.

Note that this spreadsheet has not been filled out through eternity. I should do pretty well for tracking ~20 doses, after that, you will need to extend the spreadsheet to permit more inputs, AND you must continue to build the calculation cells out to the right. Simply follow the trend already in place and you should be fine. For any requesting assistance, let me know. Unfortunately, I had to shorten the workbook considerably to allow it to fit into meso's attachment regulations. by email I should be able to provide the entire file, and to check others files as necessary.

Hope this helps ... and remember, there is NO substitute for common sense. a model in the hands of someone who doesn't understand the model is DANGEROUS. please make sure you understand the calculations before relying fully upon the model for information.

Best regards,
just one of many neighborhood geeks


Been lookin for this excel spreadsheet for a while now... going to run my 4th DNP cycle
 
can i be enlightened pleez? Whos p? been looking for a legit dnp source for time now, used alins which made me sweat at 1gram (i think underdosed) and diddnt even work that well....
 
uhmmm one gram??
you might want to double check that one..only veterans should even contemplate going in that high of a range.
If this is indeed the case, however, you are severely getting ripped off.....or you are actually a robot.

use your search button bro.
 
it is not a drug, it is an industrial chemical.
;)
DNP is a drug. We could get into a semantic argument over what a "marked physiological effect" is, but let's forego that. Just be aware that DNP has been called a "drug" in the original research, by the American Medical Association, by the FDA, by doctors, by newspapers, by the EPA, by courts, by modern scholars, by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and by many others, I'm sure. It's a drug.
 
What would happen if, I am on diet wich constain 1500 kcal intake, a day, and on 600mg dnp cycle a day? Is it better to go down with calories, or up to maybe 2500 with same dose of DNP. 1500kcal intake, mostly from proteins have done me good things on reducing fat on a normal diet with morning cardio, and light weight trenning... Only side effects for now on my dnp cycle is sweeting, and no good sleep because of night sweet. 1-2nd day was 200mg dnp, 3-4 400mg dnp, 5-6-7-8 and nine would be at 600mg dose... Now I am on 6 day, and sweeting is horrible, using EC stick to it, and drinking a lot of watter, with c and e vitamin intake, and 1800 kcal intake, a day.. Any help for this horrible sweet to get a sleep for a night, beside lowing my dnp dose?
 
What would happen if, I am on diet wich constain 1500 kcal intake, a day, and on 600mg dnp cycle a day? Is it better to go down with calories, or up to maybe 2500 with same dose of DNP. 1500kcal intake, mostly from proteins have done me good things on reducing fat on a normal diet with morning cardio, and light weight trenning... Only side effects for now on my dnp cycle is sweeting, and no good sleep because of night sweet. 1-2nd day was 200mg dnp, 3-4 400mg dnp, 5-6-7-8 and nine would be at 600mg dose... Now I am on 6 day, and sweeting is horrible, using EC stick to it, and drinking a lot of watter, with c and e vitamin intake, and 1800 kcal intake, a day.. Any help for this horrible sweet to get a sleep for a night, beside lowing my dnp dose?

dose up slowly, 100 or 200mg bump every 5 days.. Don't go over 600...it has a pretty long half life so at 600 at a week you tend to have a pretty high concentration of the substance in you..i haven't had blood work to determine this but you can FEEL it. I would consume whatever your calories need to be for you to lose weight regularly.. meaning if you maintain at 3000 eat 2500 to drop some lbs slowly, eat that on dnp and drop faster and safely. I felt fine so I worked out.. Let it build up for 5 days before you bump up.. you should only be really hot the day after your first bump up and the last two days of the dose should feel comfortable..

short on time, but let me know if you understand..
 
Hey all, new to this board. Here's my story:

I took 2 cycles about 2 years ago. Basically, about 400mg/day, with protein, multivitamins, vitamins C, E, and I think B12 supplemental, calcium pyruvate. Had good results the first time, lost about 12 pounds in 10 days. The second one wasn't so effective. I was stupid and drank about 2 beers per day most days that I was on. Didn't lose much weight at all, probably because my liver was preoccupied metabolizing the alcohol instead of fat. Thankfully, I didn't dehydrate or anything.

Anyhow, now I'm ready to take a few more cycles, in a more responsible manner. However, when I took DNP before, my girlfriend got it through a friend of hers. I've been doing my research online trying to find a source, but all I find is a few shady-looking websites that I don't trust. I'm not looking for anyone to outright GIVE me a source, but could someone just tell me whether there actually IS or ISN'T an online store that sells it? I just don't want to be wasting my time chasing flies.

Also, does anyone have any input about side effects when taken with recreational marijuana use? I wouldn't assume there'd be any, since marijuana primarily affects the CNS. Thanks!
 
Hey all, new to this board. Here's my story:

I took 2 cycles about 2 years ago. Basically, about 400mg/day, with protein, multivitamins, vitamins C, E, and I think B12 supplemental, calcium pyruvate. Had good results the first time, lost about 12 pounds in 10 days. The second one wasn't so effective. I was stupid and drank about 2 beers per day most days that I was on. Didn't lose much weight at all, probably because my liver was preoccupied metabolizing the alcohol instead of fat. Thankfully, I didn't dehydrate or anything.

Anyhow, now I'm ready to take a few more cycles, in a more responsible manner. However, when I took DNP before, my girlfriend got it through a friend of hers. I've been doing my research online trying to find a source, but all I find is a few shady-looking websites that I don't trust. I'm not looking for anyone to outright GIVE me a source, but could someone just tell me whether there actually IS or ISN'T an online store that sells it? I just don't want to be wasting my time chasing flies.

Also, does anyone have any input about side effects when taken with recreational marijuana use? I wouldn't assume there'd be any, since marijuana primarily affects the CNS. Thanks!

It also affects the respiratory system. You will feel it, especially if you smoke heavy before bed and take a dose of DNP - the shallow breathing is very apparent. DNP doesn't fuck with your cardio so no worries there, mj will increase bp then drop it..

You sure you need DNP? Maybe no pot, beer, and the crappy diet that comes along with recreational drug use would be enough to get you on track?? Then nobody needs to walk around town for you asking for DNP..
 
My diet has been solid, actually. I take in about 1600-1800 calories/day, and based on my BMR I burn about 3000. Beer is casual (1-2 after work, maybe more on the weekends), and marijuana is a one-hitter every other day. I can ditch the beer completely if I start DNP (it was harder before, I was in college, everyone around me was drinking heavily at the time).

The reason I'd like to run a few cycles now is because I just took on an 8 to 5 job and grad studies right after work. I still like to get active on the weekends, but unfortunately my obligations REALLY don't allow for much workout time during the week, unless I limit myself to 5 hours of sleep every night, which isn't healthy either.
 
I had another question as well involving multivitamins. I'm not an expert on body chemistry, but I would think it's OK to take 2 or 3 multivitamins a day during a cycle, in addition to the rest of your supplements. But then again, it seems like everything causes cancer these days if you take too much of it. So I guess my question is: is it possible to take TOO MANY vitamins and minerals?
 
Also, does anyone have any input about side effects when taken with recreational marijuana use? I wouldn't assume there'd be any, since marijuana primarily affects the CNS. Thanks!

i'd also like to know about this as well, except not recreational. i'm talking 3-4 hits at the MOST. does marijuana have any negative effects while on DNP? yes my diet is on point, no beer, no other drugs, and i am not dosing DNP that high (200mg/day) just wanted to know because although i can avoid it, a lot of my friends do smoke and its the summer so we'll probably be chilling and hanging out a lot, so i just wanted to know if some marijuana could be a bad interaction? i have no problem avoiding it, but if there is no problem with it i'd like to know.
 
How long do people typically wait between cycles? I was on DNP for 2 weeks (5 days at 200 mg, 10 days at 300 mg) and finished 6 pounds lighter after the bloat disappeared. That's very impressive, considering I'm a small woman and my metabolism is pathetic on its own. I was planning on taking 4 weeks off before starting again, but now I'm thinking I might just take 2 weeks off. Is that too soon to start a new cycle?
 
How long do people typically wait between cycles? I was on DNP for 2 weeks (5 days at 200 mg, 10 days at 300 mg) and finished 6 pounds lighter after the bloat disappeared. That's very impressive, considering I'm a small woman and my metabolism is pathetic on its own. I was planning on taking 4 weeks off before starting again, but now I'm thinking I might just take 2 weeks off. Is that too soon to start a new cycle?
There's no period of time you need to wait between cycles.

You might discontinue use every few weeks for a psychological break or maybe as part of an anabolic phase in which you focus on building muscle, like with the UD2.0. Whatever the reason, you can start back up on the DNP as soon as you want to. I like to take two week breaks between cycles to focus on building muscle. I carb load, refill glycogen, and increase my weights and the volume of training in the gym. Another reason I'd see someone waiting longer than a few days is if he wanted to ration his DNP, resuming use only after his sensitivity to it had been reestablished. In his extensive 1937 research, Simkins said "Tolerance to the drug is established rapidly, so that to produce a consistent loss of weight the dosage must gradually be raised. On the other hand, the acquired tolerance is rapidly lost if the drug is discontinued for as short a period as two weeks. The dinitrophenol may then be resumed at a lower dosage level with its original effect on the patient. It is remarkable how sensitive many patients are to a slight increase in the dosage." So you can wait two weeks if you want to increase your sensitivity to the DNP. But considering it doesn't take much DNP to overcome any tolerance, you can start a new cycle whenever you want. There's no amount of time you need to wait between cycles.

Hope that helps,
Conciliator
 
There's no period of time you need to wait between cycles.

You might discontinue use every few weeks for a psychological break or maybe as part of an anabolic phase in which you focus on building muscle, like with the UD2.0. Whatever the reason, you can start back up on the DNP as soon as you want to. I like to take two week breaks between cycles to focus on building muscle. I carb load, refill glycogen, and increase my weights and the volume of training in the gym. Another reason I'd see someone waiting longer than a few days is if he wanted to ration his DNP, resuming use only after his sensitivity to it had been reestablished. In his extensive 1937 research, Simkins said "Tolerance to the drug is established rapidly, so that to produce a consistent loss of weight the dosage must gradually be raised. On the other hand, the acquired tolerance is rapidly lost if the drug is discontinued for as short a period as two weeks. The dinitrophenol may then be resumed at a lower dosage level with its original effect on the patient. It is remarkable how sensitive many patients are to a slight increase in the dosage." So you can wait two weeks if you want to increase your sensitivity to the DNP. But considering it doesn't take much DNP to overcome any tolerance, you can start a new cycle whenever you want. There's no amount of time you need to wait between cycles.

Hope that helps,
Conciliator

How do you feel about running 4 weeks of DNP the last 4 weeks of my cycle? The cycle is 400mg Tren a week and 500mg Cyp a week...
 
How do you feel about running 4 weeks of DNP the last 4 weeks of my cycle? The cycle is 400mg Tren a week and 500mg Cyp a week...
I think that's fine. Just not during PCT. Either run the DNP while on cycle, or after you've recovered. Personally, I like to save my AAS for bulks, then run PCT at maintenance calories (or slightly over maintenance), and then run DNP/clen/etc while dieting.
 
What do you think about blitz cycles on dnp?

I am now lost 6lb on 3 day cycle at 1000mg a day, sideeffects was only hard sweeting, and nothing else. Now I am at 3rd day, I have takken 1000mg and I cant sleep, its my 3rd cycle, and I never run this high dose but its seems that I am tolerating this stuff pretty fine. I cant take long cycles on small doses because of my work, where I am constantly in move, so this is only way that I can take DNP.

3. or 4 days max, now I am a little a bit of scared because its my last day, 3rd of blitz cycle, and I must tomorow go to job it will be 12 hours after my last dose when I must show on the job.

I read that dnp half life is 36 hour is that means, that side effects like sweeting last all 36 hours after last dose, or is it mean that its less efective when time goes ?

I took 1000mg on friday, 1000mg on saturday, and 1000mg on sunday (today), I hope that sweeting will be less then now tomorow when I must go to the job, pls say yes... :D

Sorry on bad English...
 
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