2,4-DiNitroPhenol [DNP]

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HOW TO NOT FUCK UP DNP:

Since some guys have been playing around and disrespecting DNP and then griping to the forums about the painful results, we need to make this VERY specific and VERY correct so that people won't keep jumping for DNP out of curiosity, or without the willpower they need to operate this respondibly. So here are my experienced guidelines to using it the RIGHT way.

FIRST GUIDLINE: Dosing. Use ONLY 200mg a day for the first four days. I don't care that you don't "feel" anything yet and you wanna bump it up. DNP accumulates in the body, and not "feeling" something means NOTHING. It's there, and it's working (the effect on metabolism begins within two hours of the first dose!). Four days will let you test your tolerance: do you have an allergy? Does it give you a rash? etc.
Only after those four days do you bump it up, by 200mg a day. The average dose is 400-600/day, and more than that gets a little severe. A full gram is the highest dose I've heard anyone use. I've used that much, and it's hell. I like to stay around 600 a day, which is HOT but safe and effective. Take caps even hours apart through the day, ending about 4-5 PM.

SECOND GUIDLINE...How to eat on DNP. This is purely personal experience, because some guys like to carb-deplete *before* using DNP (then eat carbs as usual while on), and other guys like a low-carb approach throughout. Both are fine. Using DNP is the only time that fructose is a desireable cutting carb, because it keeps the liver replentished. That reduces lethargy and spares muscle.
Be aware that eating high-carb foods WILL increase the heat sensation within an hour, and last about 2 hours. That means don't eat carbs before bed unless you want those night sweats to be even WORSE.
Personally, I ate whatever the hell I wanted! IHOP, chinese, fajitas...Yes, I burned hot, but I still lost 1.5 pounds every 2 days. Keep protein HIGH for muscles' sake, and try it yourself.

Foods I suggest including:
Blueberry yogurt. Blueberries are excellent antioxidants, and yogurt cultures help with digestive function, gas, and stool consistency (disgustingly soft stools are common during DNP).
Oregano-based foods. Oregano is perhaps one of the most potent antioxidants around,a nd one spoonful counts as a vegetable serving. See this article
Pineapple - I've found that pineapple helps alleviate those "DNP Blues". The fructose helps, and pineapple enzymes aid in protein digestion.
V8 - one 12-ounce can supplies six servings of veggies, concentrated as an excellent source of antioxidants, lycopene, and recovery of electrolytes.
Oatmeal - high-fiber foods are necessary. You'll find out why around, oh, day 5 or so. Trust me.


THIRD GUIDELINE...Supplements and DNP. I suggest:
ECA - DNP is not a stimulant. To keep energy high and aid in fat loss, use an ECA. Some advisors suggest that regular ephedrine is preferable to norephedrine because of the more direct "hit" of energy.
Prohormones - perfectly fine on DNP. I used 1-AD just to help keep strength and muscle up, and it worked fine. No problems here. You won't GROW muscle on DNP, but it'll help with strength and protection.
Obvious stuff - multivitamin, ZMA, etc.
Biotest PowerDrive - No, I'm not pimping Biotest. But PowerDrive is an excellent pre-workout mixture that actually works. Plus it's low-carb (only 15 calories total), so it won't cause carb-heat in the middle of your workout.

Antioxidants - I'm giving my own personal list, and why I use them:
Alpha Lipoic Acid - aids in fat management and blood sugar, and an excellent antioxidant.
Grape seed extract
Syntrax Radox
Green Tea
Inositol - mood enhancement, antioxidant, and muscle support. 1 gram/3x day
Ellagic acid - protects cell DNA/RNA from damage by free radicals, and may even atack cancerous cells. 400mg/twice a day
Fruit antioxidants - beyond-a-century's powder of high-potency natural fruit anti's. 1 gram, 2-3x day.
Trimethylglyceine - antioxidant, helps move fat and blood lipids into the liver and out of the body. 500mg, 2x day.
Vitamins E and C

Supplements NOT to use:
Any medications that suppress energy. No allergy meds, antidepressants, muscle relaxers, or beta blockers. DNP will have you low as it is; don't worsen your body's energy by taking something that suppresses you further.

DRUGS - Sheesh, you'd think I wouldn't have to mention this, but two idiots in particular (right here on this forum) recently affirmed that some people still just don't get it. NO alcohol (not even "moderate"), NO ecstasy, NO GHB, etc. If you don't have the willpower to forego these habits, DNP is not for you.

Syntrax Swole - a personal discovery. I tried Swole while on DNP...once. Two hours of hell, feeling inside-out.

FOURTH GUIDELINE...working out on DNP. Keep lifting short, 30-40 minutes. DNP works very well, causing your body to use 150% or more the calories per action you'd normally use. That means DON'T try to repeat your usual workouts. Drop to moderate weights, 8-12 reps, not to failure, and with plenty of walking rest between sets. You are NOT going to grow muscle on DNP, so don't use your usual heavy routine. Since DNP can cause light-headedness and heat dizzyness, you have my permission to skip squats in favor of leg presses this time.

Cardio is a controversial one. My advice - do NOT do cardio on high doses of DNP (600mg or more). It's dangerous and counterproductive. Below that amount, some cardio is fine, but keep it to 20 minutes and not at full-gallop. Remember, DNP will drain water from your quickly, causing you to leech out minerals, vitamins, and salts. Don't overdo it.

During exercise, consume at least 1 liter of water per 30 minutes of work, whether you're thirsty or not. DNP is evil in the way it blunts thirst, while at the same time doing the cruel trick of bloating your body with water WHILE dehydrating you from water in your organs. MAKE yourself drink. Always folllow DNP exercise with antioxidants, carbs, and this is a good time to use your multivitamin.

Don't feel embarrassed about poor workouts. Just this morjning I did a workout with a whopping nine sets (wimp!) before calling it quits. Listen to your body, and let it tell you when enough's enough; don't guage workouts by what you *usually* can do otherwise.

Here's my research. This is AMAZING! Not only has not a single test found it to be carcinogenic, but test after tyest after test find that DNP actually ATTACKS cancer cells, and helps anti-cancer medications work better, and helps anti-leukemia medications work without destroying cell DNA, and suppresses tumor growth by 20-50%. The summaries are all right here, friends. Karma me up!

DNP is Ames negative, and does not promote tumors. See for yourself at http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/

2,4-Dinitrophenol | Technology Transfer Network Air Toxics Web site | US EPA reports on health risks. While there have not been human studies, animal studies found no cancers caused by DNP administration. It is considered a toxin because it causes nausea, sweating, and weight loss.

Cyberiron.com reports on halth risks from external exposue. In other words, don?t get it in your eyes, or on your skin if you?re allergic. Pretty elementary stuff.

http://www.ebec2000.com/abstracts/056.htm This animal study documents a 64% increase in metabolism. "These findings confirm that DNP effectively increases metabolic rate..." Duh.

Biosource A PDF file about an antidote to DNP.

http://www.boehringer-ingelheim.es/...glesa/cap13.htm finds that DNP did not activate liver enzymes (MAT) associated with liver damage

"Comparative study of toxicity of 4-nitrophenol and 2,4-dinitrophenol in newborn and young rats." Koizumi M, Yamamoto Y, Ito Y, Takano M, Enami T, Kamata E, Hasegawa R. Division of Risk Assessment, National Institute of Health Sciences, 1-18-1 Kamiyoga, Setagaya-ku, Tokyo 158-8501, Japan. This study found that DNP can induce death in overdosed amounts, but that up to that point no toxicity was evident, nor were there any abnormalities in physical development.

"Phenol toxicity and conjugation in human colonic epithelial cells." Pedersen G, Brynskov J, Saermark T. Dept of Medical Gastroenterology, Herlev University Hospital, Copenhagen, Denmark.. This study found that DNP has a toxic effect on cells of the colon, with "toxic" defined in two ways: first, it interfered with metabolism (this we know?it?s the intended effect of DNP users!) and second, it interfered with bowel inflammation (not a health risk. This is caused by osmotic effect, with the worst results being softened stools and gas).

"Mechanisms of bacterial resistance to macrolide antibiotics." Nakajima Y. Division of Microbiology, Hokkaido College of Pharmacy, 7-1 Katsuraoka-cho, Otaru, Hokkaido 047-0264, Japan. This study found that antibiotic-resistant bacteria could be thwarted with DNP. "the extent of the accumulated drug in a resistant cell increases as much as that in a susceptible cell in the presence of an uncoupling agent such as?2,4-dinitrophenol (DNP)."

"Absence of Crabtree effect in human melanoma cells adapted to growth at low pH: reversal by respiratory inhibitors." Burd R, Wachsberger PR, Biaglow JE, Wahl ML, Lee I, Leeper DB. Departments of Radiation Oncology, Kimmel Cancer Center, Thomas Jefferson University, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19107, USA. Check this out?DNP actually helps make melanoma tumors easier to attack by increasing ratio of oxygen consumption to lactic acid production, while glycolysis remains the same. "Therefore, tumor acute acidification and oxygenation can be achieved by exposure?"


"New insights in the cellular processing of platinum antitumor compounds, using fluorophore-labeled platinum complexes and digital fluorescence microscopy."
Molenaar C, Teuben JM, Heetebrij RJ, Tanke HJ, Reedijk J. Department of Molecular Cell Biology, Leiden University Medical Centre, The Netherlands. DNP is used as a control in tests of antitumor cells because it does NOT bind to cell DNA, nor promote tumors, yet its staining abilities enable tracking of the uptake of antitumor drugs.

Specific inhibition of breast cancer cells by antisense poly-DNP-oligoribonucleotides and targeted apoptosis." Ru K, Taub ML, Wang JH. Department of Biochemistry, State University of New York, Buffalo 14260-3000, USA Are you ready for this? DNP actually INHIBITS (!!!) breast cancers! Yes, not only does it NOT promote cancers, it?s being recognized as a cancer-fighter/blocker. "Two membrane-permeable and RNase-resistant antisense poly-2'-O-(2,4-dinitrophenyl)-oligoribonucleotides (poly-DNP-RNAs) have been synthesized as inhibitors of human breast cancer?fluorescence assay indicates that the targeted antisense inhibition by poly-DNP-RNAs leads to apoptosis of SK-Br-3 cells but does not affect nontumorigenic MCF-10A cells. The control poly-DNP-RNAs with random or sense nucleotide sequence are completely inactive." Plain English? DNP can be synthesized as an anti-cancer compound, because tests show that it blocks mutagens but does NOT affect non-mutagenic (healthy) cells, and has no RNA effects on them.

"Heat shock protein induction by certain chemical stressors is correlated with their cytotoxicity, lipophilicity and protein-denaturing capacity." Neuhaus-Steinmetz U, Rensing L. Institute of Cell Biology, Biochemistry and Biotechnology, NW II University of Bremen, Germany. The thermic effect of DNP induces protein synthesis (heat shock protein, or HSP, synthesis). In fact, it?s quite GOOD at it: "ASA, DNP and CCCP induced HSP at lower concentrations than substances with a similar lipophilicity?"

"Comparative effects of the metabolic inhibitors 2,4-dinitrophenol and iodoacetate on mouse neuroblastoma cells in vitro." Andres MI, Repetto G, Sanz P, Repetto M.
National Institute of Toxicology, Seville, Spain. In this study, DNP?s observed effect was an increase in metabolism (duh!), while the other toxins compared to it had harmful in vitro effects but no increase in metabolism.

"Inhibition of uncoupled respiration in tumor cells. A possible role of mitochondrial Ca2+ efflux." Gabai VL.Medical Radiology Research Center, Russian Academy of Medical Sciences, Obninsk. DNP not only does not cause tumors, but it inhibited their respiration by 20-25% compared to controls.

"Amsacrine-induced lesions in DNA and their modulation by novobiocin and 2,4-dinitrophenol." Shibuya ML, Buddenbaum WE, Don AL, Utsumi H, Suciu D, Kosaka T, Elkind MM. Department of Radiology and Radiation Biology, Colorado State University, Fort Collins 80523. In this study, researchers found that DNP abrogates?or disrupts?cytotoxicity in hamsters (using cancerous cells). They expected to find that DNP would interfere with anticancer treatments, but instead found that DNP increased their effects. They state, though, that they cannot claim a proven effect of DNP on anticancer treatments yet, although they do agree that treatment with DNP actually enhanced the effects of the DNA regenerative therapy of anticancer chemotherapy.

"Induction of endonucleolytic DNA cleavage in human acute myelogenous leukemia cells by etoposide, camptothecin, and other cytotoxic anticancer drugs: a cautionary note." Kaufmann SH. Oncology Center, Johns Hopkins Hospital, Baltimore, Maryland 21205. The authors warn that certain anti-leukemia drugs resulted in "extensive DNA degradation." BUT (good ol? DNP to the rescue!), "Preincubation with dinitrophenol abolished the effect?"

"[Dependence of the nature of the action of metabolic inhibitors on ribosomal RNA synthesis in Ehrlich ascites carcinoma cells on cell integrity]" [Article in Russian] Akhlynina TV, Buzhurina IM, Panov MA, Rozovskaia IA, Chernaia NG. DNP actually inhibits the synthesis of RNA in carcinoma cells. In other words, it helps cancerous cells commit suicide by neutering themselves. "Ribosomal RNA (rRNA) synthesis in the intact Ehrlich ascite carcinoma cells is selectively inhibited by papaverin (ED50 = 0.01 mM), 2,4-dinitrophenol (DPN; ED50 = 5 microM), and actinomycin D (ED50 = 0.1 microgram/ml)."

"Autocatabolism of surface macromolecules shed by human melanoma cells." Bystryn JC, Perlstein J. Cancer Res 1982 Jun;42(6):2232-7. This study finds that DNP helps melanoma cells die (autocatabolize) while other cells are unaffected.

http://www.geocities.com/byggdegstor/dnpforside - tons of research, including medical studies. Excerpts:

DNP does not cause liver damage: "Their analyses demonstrate, beyond a doubt, that the liver does not suffer any damage in the course of dinitro treatment." (Biological Study of Dinitro Drugs in Humans By Dr. Jacques Bell. Bell, Jacques. 1939. Etude biologique des produits dinitres chez l'homme. Medecine. 19:749-54. Translation ? 1996 Robert Ames)

Also: "Experimental studies on animals do not show toxic effects of dinitrophenol on the kidney. Anatomical-pathological examinations of animals, even those which died from a massive dose of dinitrophenol, do not reveal any important anatomical changes, except a small degree of cytolysis. Clinical documents are not abundant, but, on the whole, do not seem to demonstrate that dinitrophenol is toxic for the kidneys."

"Dinitrophenol has almost no action on the blood cholesterol. (Grant and Schube)."

"it doesn't seem that dinitrophenol at usual clinical doses is likely to harm the kidneys."

"Dinitrophenol is remarkable for its absence of effect on the cardio-vascular system...dinitrophenol is absolutely devoid of toxicity for the heart."

"Dinitrophenol does not attack cell tissue albumin and does not determine the fat loss to the expense of the muscles, contrary to thyroxine."

"dinitrophenol offers this precious advantage that the cessation of its use at the slightest appearance of signs indicating an imminence of intoxication results immediately in the arrest of those symptoms." (Professor Pouchet)."


Interestingly, one medical theory on a health ADVANTAGE of DNP is that the slight increase in thermogenic temperature simulates the fever a body induces during a viral attack. The body increases itsheat to protect organs but kill viruses, and some theorize that DNP can do the same thing, thus killing viruses in the body. In this mechanism, DNP may have an immune-enhancing effect.
 
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Toxicoepidemiology and Predictors of Death in 2,4-Dinitrophenol (DNP) Toxicity

Introduction: 2,4-Dinitrophenol (DNP) is a highly toxic industrial chemical that is sometimes misused to reduce body fat. Toxicity following ingestion of DNP has recently become more common in the United Kingdom. This research was performed to document the frequency of DNP toxicity as reported to poisons centres in the United States (US) and United Kingdom (UK) and to identify the clinical features associated with fatality.

Methods: Calls to UK and US poisons centres involving systemic exposure to DNP were extracted for the 12 calendar years 2007-2018. These were analysed using univariate and multivariate statistical techniques.

Results: There were 204 cases (n = 86, US; n = 118, UK) of systemic DNP exposure identified, of which 86% were under the age of 40 and 71% were males. Over the study period the incidence of reported DNP toxicity was higher in the United Kingdom than the United States (1.78 vs. 0.26 cases per million population) and annual case numbers have increased in both countries since 2011.

Case fatality was high and did not differ significantly between countries (US 11.6%; 95% CI: 6.4-20.1%: UK 16.9%; 95% CI: 11.3-24.7%; X2 (1) = 1.12, p = 0.29).

Univariate analysis demonstrated significant associations between risk of death and the presence of
· hypoglycaemia (OR = 17.1, 95% CI 1.7-174.3),
· hypertonia (OR = 12.9, 95% CI 3.5-47.6),
· acidosis (OR = 12.5, 95% CI 4.8-32.9),
· raised lactate (OR = 8.3, 95% CI 2.4-28.4),
· hyperpyrexia (OR = 6.5, 95% CI 2.8-15.2),
· tachycardia (OR = 6.4, 95% CI 2.5-16.4),
· agitation or confusion (OR = 6.0, 95% CI 2.6-13.7),
· hypertension (OR = 5.6, 95% CI 1.9-16.4) and
· tachypnoea/dyspnoea (OR = 2.8, 95% CI 1.2-6.1).

After backwards stepwise logistic regression, the following were retained as significant independent predictors of mortality:
· acidosis (OR = 5.4, 95% CI: 1.8 - 16.5),
· tachycardia (OR = 3.6, 95% CI: 1.2 - 11.0),
· agitation/confusion (OR = 3.4, 95% CI: 1.2 - 9.7) and
· hyperpyrexia (OR = 2.8, 95% CI: 1.0 - 7.4).

Discussion: DNP toxicity is uncommonly reported to poisons centres but has recently become more frequent in the United States and United Kingdom. Tachycardia, hyperpyrexia, acidosis, and agitation/confusion are independent risk factors for mortality and their presence should prompt rapid escalation to an intensive care environment for aggressive supportive treatment and monitoring.

Potts AJ, Bowman NJ, Seger DL, Thomas SHL. Toxicoepidemiology and predictors of death in 2,4-dinitrophenol (DNP) toxicity. Clin Toxicol (Phila). 2020 Oct 6:1-6. doi: 10.1080/15563650.2020.1826505. Epub ahead of print. PMID: 33021407. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15563650.2020.1826505?journalCode=ictx20
 
Unless the DNP I acquired was fake I honestly don’t feel that much of a threat, it’s just uncomfortable working out with the heat. Bought DnP from 2 sources 1 here underground Raw and the other on dark market pill form, preferred the dark market one because the raw source makes me wanna vomit but I don't feel like I'm going to catch on fire but then again most I've ever done was 600mg pop 3 at once before bed only yesterday.
 
That’s a bi
Unless the DNP I acquired was fake I honestly don’t feel that much of a threat, it’s just uncomfortable working out with the heat. Bought DnP from 2 sources 1 here underground Raw and the other on dark market pill form, preferred the dark market one because the raw source makes me wanna vomit but I don't feel like I'm going to catch on fire but then again most I've ever done was 600mg pop 3 at once before bed only yesterday.
Thats a bit much!
 
That’s a bi

Thats a bit much!

nahh still alive i dont feel like its that dangerous as long as u respect the dosages im 155lbish taken 600mg max but like I said it makes working out uncomfortable. if i had money i go for hgh because this fatigue is not enjoyable every morning when i get up my legs feel like jelly. 2 weeks on dnp now
 
nahh still alive i dont feel like its that dangerous as long as u respect the dosages im 155lbish taken 600mg max but like I said it makes working out uncomfortable. if i had money i go for hgh because this fatigue is not enjoyable every morning when i get up my legs feel like jelly. 2 weeks on dnp now

600mg daily for 2 weeks? That’s a lot for your weight. Just be careful please. I’ve personally done 3 day cycles 800mg/600mg/400mg and 2 day cycles 1000mg/800mg but I cannot handle 600mg daily for even 1 week! Never mind 2 weeks I’d die. Most was 200mg for 2 weeks and that was it. Btw I weigh 200 at 5’8 at the time of these experiments. I don’t do dnp anymore but they were fun in 2017...btw I had more results from my 2 day/3 day cycles than 2 week cycles but everyone is different. I do not recommend doing 3 day blitz style cycles.
 
600mg daily for 2 weeks? That’s a lot for your weight. Just be careful please. I’ve personally done 3 day cycles 800mg/600mg/400mg and 2 day cycles 1000mg/800mg but I cannot handle 600mg daily for even 1 week! Never mind 2 weeks I’d die. Most was 200mg for 2 weeks and that was it. Btw I weigh 200 at 5’8 at the time of these experiments. I don’t do dnp anymore but they were fun in 2017...btw I had more results from my 2 day/3 day cycles than 2 week cycles but everyone is different. I do not recommend doing 3 day blitz style cycles.
im done now taking a break too much fatigue and got some hgh
 
2,4 Dinitrophenol: It's Not Just For Men

Background: 2,4 dinitrophenol (DNP) is an organic compound which causes thermogenesis resulting in fat burning and weight loss. Although not licensed for human consumption, the globalised access to and information about this compound on the internet has prompted a renewed interest in DNP making it readily available to purchase online.

Studies into user experiences remain scarce and much of the previous literature has focused on DNP use in male dominated bodybuilding communities. While online accounts of female DNP use are plentiful, this group are under researched.

Method: Ten online forums containing female discussion of DNP were identified and 440 threads subjected to a thematic analysis. Semi structured interviews were conducted with four forum moderators (all men) and one woman who reported use of DNP.

Results: The findings highlighted diverse motivations for why women use DNP as well as differences in experiences, dosing regimens, willingness to take risks and adverse effects. Many women reported using online forums to seek advice and trusted the information they received.

However, much of the discussion and protocols for use online is perpetuated by and geared towards men, with DNP seen as a 'hard core' drug that is not suitable for women. Female DNP use was frequently stigmatised because the potential risks were seen to be at odds with women's roles as mothers and caregivers. Women who used DNP were often ignored, ridiculed or seen as novice users, while men were viewed as the DNP experts.

Conclusion: This study provides an overview of female experiences of DNP use. There is a growing body of evidence as to the harms associated with this compound and there are no guaranteed 'safe' regimens that can be advocated for any potential user.

Users equate deaths or ill harms from DNP with incorrect dosing or insufficient knowledge of the impact of the drug on the body. This leads women to incorrectly assume that if they are not suffering ill effects they are using DNP safely.

Of key concern from this study is that within a vacuum of harm reduction advice, women are reported to be accepting DNP advice circulating in male-dominated forums and adopting the protocols of male bodybuilders with potentially fatal consequences. Furthermore, women using DNP are doing so without any 'real world' support, gender sensitive treatment pathways or interventions in place.

Germain DJ, Leavey DC, Van Hout PMC, McVeigh PJ. 2,4 dinitrophenol: It's not just for men. Int J Drug Policy. 2020 Oct 16:102987. doi: 10.1016/j.drugpo.2020.102987. Epub ahead of print. PMID: 33077346. 2,4 dinitrophenol: It's not just for men
 
Anyone know if DNP degrades? I have some from 2017,
dinitro. Ive only ever done 3 pills once and I felt like I was legit dying, just took 3pills and ya i was sweating hella but not the omg i am gonna die feeling so im wondering if the 200mg is now like 130mg or 150mg. Gonna do another day at 3 pills and see what happens, I did 7 or so days at 2 pills. current weight is 245.
 
Anyone know if DNP degrades? I have some from 2017,
dinitro. Ive only ever done 3 pills once and I felt like I was legit dying, just took 3pills and ya i was sweating hella but not the omg i am gonna die feeling so im wondering if the 200mg is now like 130mg or 150mg. Gonna do another day at 3 pills and see what happens, I did 7 or so days at 2 pills. current weight is 245.

Tomorrow will be worse. The day after will be worse yet.

A suggestion: start with one pill.
 
Notes for anyone : 73kg, 177cm

After meal crystals 200mg e20hrs for the first three days, e16hrs day four and I am now on day ten. Going to hit e12hrs very soon. Plan to end the cycle before day 21.

What I'd consider VITAL on cycle is
1.) omeperazole on standby (when you increase dosage frequency, baad stomach acids)
2.) psyllium husk + orange juice (very good fibre)
3.) rehydra salts + water
4.) black coffee

The C, E, molasses and fish oil i'm doing sparingly e3d for liver/kidneys sake.
 
Just finished a 500mg 11 day cycle. Was brutal trying to do Jiu-jitsu while on DNP, basically impossible.
Wife did 200mg a year ago and had to go to the after hours hospital for hives, she had an allergic reaction to it. $4,000 later she now knows DNP is not for her.
 
Just finished a 500mg 11 day cycle. Was brutal trying to do Jiu-jitsu while on DNP, basically impossible.
Wife did 200mg a year ago and had to go to the after hours hospital for hives, she had an allergic reaction to it. $4,000 later she now knows DNP is not for her.
Yikes, I'm glad she was alright. Haven't seen you on here in awhile, how's life?
 
Yikes, I'm glad she was alright. Haven't seen you on here in awhile, how's life?
Life is good, just got over Corona. I would rate it a 2/10 I thought it was a cold or allergies till the test came back positive. About half the Jiu-jitsu academy has had and recovered this year. Really mild for everyone thankfully.
Looking back on how hard DNP was at the end for me this run its because I had Corona at the end. So yea, you can be on DNP and get the rona and live.
 
I'm on 30mg of Adderall for adhd but its for legitimate purposes, I got lucky because it suppresses the shit out of my appetite on 200mg dnp and lots of energy, a killer combo I stumbled on , I'm just telling my experience, not a doctor or advising anyone to try get on a adhd med , it was minus 50 up here in northern Canada I was out doing cardio the dnp kept me warm , I heard there was a article about dnp killing off cancer cells but was removed from the internet, I would not be surprised if true the dnp burns off everything lol I' ran it for a couple weeks took a break now another 10 days , without Adderall on dnp I'm eating everything in sight , I sometimes just run 100mg dnp and it gets me totally soaked in the gym ,just drenched and its actually fat being burned i do intermittent fasting as well, love dnp it works I'm very respectful of this compound I won't run more than 250 mg , thanks for the tips I just stumbled on today
 
I ran 200mgs dnp for 12 days with tren a and test p and eca for energy and lots of fruit and at least at LEAST a gallon of ice cream every day after day 4 or so and my experience was so overwhelmingly good that i definitely recommend and i will be running again soon. Once i nail down my gh plug ill be looking for orals and then DNP 100% the fat loss was so good and i stayed lean this was ten years ago i ran it. Highly recommend. I was going to jc at the time and girls good looking ones would walk right up to me and be like "do i know you?" It was awesome. Team lean face! Dnp rocks! 200mgs all you need. With tren test and eca of course.
 
I ran 200mgs dnp for 12 days with tren a and test p and eca for energy and lots of fruit and at least at LEAST a gallon of ice cream every day after day 4 or so and my experience was so overwhelmingly good that i definitely recommend and i will be running again soon. Once i nail down my gh plug ill be looking for orals and then DNP 100% the fat loss was so good and i stayed lean this was ten years ago i ran it. Highly recommend. I was going to jc at the time and girls good looking ones would walk right up to me and be like "do i know you?" It was awesome. Team lean face! Dnp rocks! 200mgs all you need. With tren test and eca of course.
I found niacin vitamin b3 with dnp caused intense sweating in the gym ,your a courageous dude the tren alone makes me sweat lol nice stack bro
 
I was was researching "UnCouplers of Oxidative Phosphorylation" and it landed me here. I was lurking and read some interesting thoughts and information.
Let me get to the purpose of my post. I was looking at orally active, broad spectrum anthelmintics widely used in human and veterinary medicine shown to support Uncoupling of Oxidative Phosphorylation.

I am very interest in this because I am trying to resolve a Type2 Diabetes, metabolic Syndrome issue, however the most effective meds in this category have been discontinued from the market place no longer being produce by pharma.

Side Note, there where claims this group was were effective for COVID19.

That's just some background of what got me here. While researching I saw this quote "We have examined the effects of these anthelmintics on the electrical resistance of planar bimolecular lipid membranes and compared the results with those obtained with a known uncoupler, 2,4-dinitrophenol (2,4-DNP). All drugs tested markedly reduced membrane resistance at concentrations lower than 0.1 μm and were better proton conductors than 2,4-DNP by at least an order of magnitude". I had never heard of DNP.

Started a google quest and it brought me to the body building forums. It seems the anthelmintics where said to have been safe in the limited studies for uncoupling effect, DNP is alleged not so much, however, despite DNP no longer approved for acceptable use as a fat reducing agent or for human consumption seems more easily sourced than the now discontinued anthelmintic drugs.

I am considering DNP and have done a lots of research into this interesting substance. I have questions, using low dose protocol of DNP, anyone know if using a Sodium-glucose Cotransporter-2 (SGLT2) Inhibitor has any contraindications. I know there are no studies, so this would be clinical use information or experienced user. I am trying to reverse Type2 Diabetes and Fatty liver disease (FLD), also known as hepatic steatosis liver.

I have followed strict protocols using diet and herbal medicines, however its a stubborn booger I don't take this lightly and always consider risk with any chemical agent I use to cause an effect, positive or negative. If you have relevant information please help me out with this.
 
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