5.5+ years blast and cruise pct log

[BirdieNumNum]

Clomid will make u an agitated little bitch IME it really does. I recently split with my partner because of clomid simple. Anyone who says different is wrong.

 

[nervje]

Clomid will make u an agitated little bitch IME it really does. I recently split with my partner because of clomid simple. Anyone who says different is wrong.

I am

I just came here because i need help.
Relationship is in problems and i need to man up, but how?

Dropping clomid dangers my recovery idk how to get the constant anxiety out of my head

 

[nervje]

Clomid will make u an agitated little bitch IME it really does. I recently split with my partner because of clomid simple. Anyone who says different is wrong.

Didnt she support you or u broke up?

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Clomid affects us or me in such a way where there is no filter to what I say or do. I’ve said nasty things pathetic things flashes of rage etc. You simply cannot have a woman whilst taking the drug. I suggest u explain this to her and have some space whilst your doing your recovery or it will break down.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Didnt she support you or u broke up?

She tried.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Take diazepam for the anxiety. That’s what I done recently.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

SSRI’s also help to control it , but I found after a few weeks even they could not control the wrath of clomiphene.

 

[master.on]

So finally I'm making a thread on here too.

Since I was 20 I'm blasting and cruising.
After 3.5 years, I decided to go off to check for fertility, theres an old existing thread here:

3.5 years Steroids recovery log

Well, I guess I fired the trigger too soon again, basically it was a 10 week off period, wheres first 2 weeks was testosterone clearance, then 6 weeks of serms, then 2 weeks of nothing -> bloodtest showed lh and fsh in lower range back then.
Around a week later after this threads last post I went on cycle again and have stayed since.

Not sure if now I'm having a 2 year, or 5.5 year total recovery but I guess those 10 weeks inbetween didnt do much for recovery, so lets call it 5.5 years.

On my blasts ive been mainly doing tren, I did deca once too, and my last blast of eq and test, which ended in february.
Since then Ive been tapering down my test enanthate only dose, to currently 150mg.
End of february down to 250, 3 weeks later down to 180, 4 weeks later 150mg, for 2 weeks i stay at this dose now.
Also, since 2 weeks I have added in hcg at 500ius on monday, wednesday and friday.
Testosterone shots are on monday and fridays, 75mg each (enanthate).

Im awaiting 10000iu hcg this week and would need some proper guidance.

I thought of doing the same protocol as I did in aboves 3.5 years thread, which was I think 20days of hcg at 2000 iu eod.

Although, in former thread, I did the hcg injections for 10 days ALONGSIDE my last testosterone shots, then after last test shot, rest of those 20 days hcg eod (so 10 days only hcg shots), which I was advised, was WRONG because I shouldve kept the hcg along the test shots and stop the hcg when I stop the testosterone too.
I have 300mg of test propionate left, which Im gonna use for the last 2 weeks instead of the current enanthate ester until my last test shots, so it clears out of blood even quicker.

My thought was following:
This week, continue the wednesday/friday hcg shot and 1 more injection of 75mg test enanth.
Next week, I will do ed or eod injections of test prop for a total of 150mg per week, alongside 15 days of 1500iu hcg eod.

Then I have a 2 week clearance period, and then I start my serms at
Clomid, 50mg for 4 weeks
Nolva, 20mg for 6 weeks

Nolva and Clomid i have a around 3-4 week supply from pharmacist, and then also supply from alpha pharma, back then when they used to be legit.

So Im safe on the serms.
Hcg passed the pregnancy test, this weeks hcg shall pass too as its same brand (shree venkatesh), except its this years batch so Im gonna see.
If it fails, I get legit hcg again in 2 weeks, and can drag current protocol out to 500iu for the next 2 weeks, but I guess its g2g when it arrives tomorrow or thursday.

Anything I should do different with my pct protocol?
Should I cruise longer and do hcg longer?

Im in no hurry to get off basically, so I could do hcg therapy longer if needed, but I want it to be over with, and would do said approach if its enough.

Did you get estradiol bloodwork?
HCG can well skyrocket E2 even while T remains quite low.
High E2 can hinder recovery, and cause a lot of problems so you'd better keep track of it.

Stay off SERMs
They can cause nasty side effects if used long term, and they won't do much for recovery. At least not as much as HCG can.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Sorry master on. But telling him to stay if serms is wrong. He should have taken loads of hcg and then serms, like me. I think I’m all good now.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Ofcourse control e2 as I’ve had loads of problems with that.

 

[nervje]

Sorry master on. But telling him to stay if serms is wrong. He should have taken loads of hcg and then serms, like me. I think I’m all good now.

Well i only had 6 weeks of hcg before i started the serms.. Will see in 2 months if it turned out good. Guess time plays the most factor and how I live my life.
I wanna stay active and all that shit to not turn into a depressive slob.
Tbh i dont think ive had high test levels naturally, unfortunately i didnt get them tested before gear but i can say, that my father and brother both dont look like they have high test levels lol.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Correct mate time is the key, as you’ve probably read, I’ve taken hcg for years prior to clomid. All the best let us know how you get on.

 

[nervje]

So ive been having this really low libido again and i got estrogen tested.


Estrogen is at 11, from range 11-42 pg/ml

Would this be ok at this stage?
Would also explain the low libido, i guess?

 

[BirdieNumNum]

From what I have learnt, there are so many different aspects that control libido mate. But yeah, maybe.

 

[nervje]

Just found out my nolva is dosed at 10mg per pill, so ive been doing 10mg a day until now, along the 50mg clomid

How bad is it, or isnt it too bad?
Going to double obviously until protocol is finished

 

[nervje]

It feels awful, 10 more days of serms.

The headfuckery/anxiety is big.
I look like shit, put on a bit of fat and lost lot of size.
I look like i never did steroids, at 5'8 im currently 202 lbs.
Strength sucks too, but i still try to train and eat clean

 

[jackhammer85]

Hi how are you doing now ?

 

[nervje]

Hi how are you doing now ?

Well the anxiety comes and goes, ive got 7 more days of clomid and nolva.

Erections are fully there because I do cialis 10mg ED, but libido is low so i dont get horny when i see hot chicks, but i get hard when i need/want to have sex with my girlfriend.

Other than that, alot of joint/tendon aches, i guess its due to the low estrogen possibly, and i hope it resolves ones recovered.
I cant remember feeling like this when i was still training natty (painwise).

But i feel fine and was also in a good mood the past 2 days. Hope it stays like that, i csnt wait for serms to end, because then its just a matter of a few weeks until i hopefully regain some normal body functions again.

 

[jackhammer85]

Gj!

 

[nervje]

Tomorrow is the last day of taking a clomid tablet and im excited as fuck!

Its been 4 weeks now that i take serms, shall i continue to take nolva for 2 more weeks or shall i quit the nolva too? (since most pct protocols consist of clomid 4 weeks, nolva 6 weeks)?