CaptainAll
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25mg oxy may yield some results, but 50mg is the dosage that in studies was effective for strength and muscle gains. @Type-IIx mentioned this previously a few times in fact.
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Actual hepatotoxicity of oxymetholone (anadrol)
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25mg oxy may yield some results, but 50mg is the dosage that in studies was effective for strength and muscle gains. @Type-IIx mentioned this previously a few times in fact.
And what do these cases prove? That among many seriously ill people there are several in whom the administration of very large doses of oxymetholone for years has caused some diseases
Find me proof that mg by mg of oxymetholone is more harmful
In my opinion anadrol toxicity mg per mg is similar to other popular 17AA drugs
Find me proof that mg by mg of oxymetholone is more harmful
In my opinion anadrol toxicity mg per mg is similar to other popular 17AA drugs
CaptainAll
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I do not disagree with you! But what I am trying to say is that it is unreasonable and futile to take 17aa’s for average/competitive bodybuilders. There is no reason for using these agents that are associated with a whole range of ailments. Why risk your health and chance of ending up with adenomas?
Unless you are a strength athlete and you need to take the risk.
CaptainAll
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Oxymetholone is the best compound I tried and I would run it too (no blink), but the risks and the scares around it are too menacing to disregard.
Stanozolol vs oxymetholone at 50 mg/day for 8 weeks...
Hard to bet against stanozolol as the people's champion of liver and lipid particle count destruction, no?
This dude ran the oxandrolone too long IMO...
The Diagnosis and Manifestations of Liver Injury Secondary to Off-Label Androgenic Anabolic Steroid Use
Drug-induced liver injury (DILI) presents as a broad spectrum of adverse drug reactions which can range from a mild elevation in liver enzymes to fulminant liver failure. The primary goal is to identify DILI early when the patient's liver enzymes are ...
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4 to 6 weeks max at 50 mg/day. But you are always rolling the dice.
Nah cuz you typed that Anavar, which is also 17AA, is much healthier
You are a hundred times more likely to die from a heart/stroke from steroids than from liver cancer
In probably hundred of thousands patients treated with anadrol, several cases of liver adenoma have been described, most of which were benign tumors, for example we are talking about such extremes as an 18-year-old girl from Japan who used anadrol continuously for 6 years.
You are a hundred times more likely to die from a heart/stroke from steroids than from liver cancer
In probably hundred of thousands patients treated with anadrol, several cases of liver adenoma have been described, most of which were benign tumors, for example we are talking about such extremes as an 18-year-old girl from Japan who used anadrol continuously for 6 years.
CaptainAll
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Absolutely, since 50mg Stanazolol is significantly more toxic than 50mg of Oxy, no doubt.
I did not say otherwise. All I was implying is that I am surprised people choose to take Oxymetholone at 50mg or 50mg+ despite all the evidence of its use causing health ailments. That was all.
I know, all AAS are notorious for side effects and health deterioration, but using 17aa's is insane. Test, methenolone or even Oxandrolone and HGH are far safer and risks are considerably less.
Medicine dose of winny is about 2,5-5g compared to anadrol 100mg
And 50mg anadrol is more anabolic than same dose winny
Anadrol seems to be extremely toxic only to fetuses, but this is only a hypothesis
CaptainAll
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Absolutely, and it is not warranted you will even get any benign adenoma or rupture taking 100mg of Oxy for 8 weeks (as Kevin Levrone did) during his career. But why take this risk at all?
The safety of anavar is just bro science, its very bad for lipids and I havent seen no evidence that it is less harmful to organs than anadrol
Kevin Levrone got cancer by 8 weeeks anadrol? :>
Clinical indication yes. My point and yours is let's put these all on a level mg to mg basis and watch those livers squirm.
I tried stanzolol at 12.5 mg/day (pharma) and it was impressive. Did not stick around. Never tried oxymetholone (no legal option).
50 mg/day of oxandrolone does not have appropriate anabolic / risk benefit for my genes. Murders the lipid particle counts (look much worse than simple lipid panel).
CaptainAll
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God bless no. And many other bodybuilders did not too.
I always wondered how 70s and 80s bodybuilders took handfuls of 17aa oral steroids and none accept Mihalik and Muntzer have died of liver failure, liver adenoma or other bile/liver related issues.
CaptainAll
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In all fairness, I wish I could let it go and just take Anadrol. I have x15 packs of Turkish Anapolon laying there (bought in Istanbul)
Type-IIx
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That's not a hypothesis, that's a sneakily halfwitted comment masquerading as a rational though.
Type-IIx
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Anadrol is my favorite 17AA. I like it best at 25 mg (when combined with another 17AA) to 50 mg (either combined, or as the solo 17AA) myself. Risk/reward balancing. More people than not can handle it at 150 mg not to mind 100 mg but it's not necessary.
CaptainAll
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Do you generally think that running 50mg for 6-8 weeks is safe for someone who is healthy, not drinking alcohol or taking any other medicines but some testosterone with Hgh?
I am a fan of Oxymetholone, but the scare of hepatic issues is a definite factor affecting the stay away from it.
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