Steroid Profile Anavar

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@Bill Roberts: "Anavar has often been called a weak steroid. Part of the reason for this is that use of a Class I steroid alone never is maximally effective. The other cause is that bodybuilders and authors in the field sometimes make unfortunate and unreasonable comparisons when judging anabolic steroids." […]

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[Human_backhoe]

My absolute favorite. Also the only oral that does not effect my markers (20 to 40 MG ED 4-6 weeks). Cosmetically, works great for me too. Dry look on a cut, better nutrient partioning for bulking.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

My absolute favorite. Also the only oral that does not effect my markers (20 to 40 MG ED 4-6 weeks). Cosmetically, works great for me too. Dry look on a cut, better nutrient partioning for bulking.

Also a great compound for a solid strength boost to hit a PR.
Even by itself, on TRT... it's enough to push you into a solid PR ... obviously if Diet and training is on point.

Love the Varx not to be underestimated.
(Pumps are wicked too)

 

[jJjburton]

Also a great compound for a solid strength boost to hit a PR.
Even by itself, on TRT... it's enough to push you into a solid PR ... obviously if Diet and training is on point.

Love the Varx not to be underestimated.
(Pumps are wicked too)

Extremely underestimated, when i first tried it i was impressed. I was confused because of everyone saying it is a “weak” AAS. But it really did exactly what is needed for a steroid. Gives great pumps and a good energy boost. Only oral i ever ran for the full 5-6 weeks, feeling good the whole time. Orals usually make me lethargic, and I need to cut it short after jusr 2-3 weeks. Not this one.

The pumps were insane.

 

[RustyNail]

Nice! Liking these reviews as it’s what I landed on to try for my next cycle. Just a nice Test base with Anavar start and possible finish.
What kind of dosages has everyone ran?

 

[Human_backhoe]

Nice! Liking these reviews as it’s what I landed on to try for my next cycle. Just a nice Test base with Anavar start and possible finish.
What kind of dosages has everyone ran?

Leave the orals for the end. For a lot of people it fucks up their lipids. You can't recover your lipid profile when blasting testosterone.

I am personally very happy with 20mg am 20mg pm

 

[Btcowboy]

Was going to run drol for meet prep but needed a drier compound so picked up Var will save drol for something else.

 

[Theworm]

Just be careful, when I use it my hdl goes from 47 to 17 and my ldl goes from 100 to 180. Scary shit when in your 40s, plus that was only after week 4 (50 mg daily).

 

[Millard]

Just be careful, when I use it my hdl goes from 47 to 17 and my ldl goes from 100 to 180. Scary shit when in your 40s, plus that was only after week 4 (50 mg daily).

Wow. That's a huge change!

There was major study that examined anavar as a weight loss treatment in hiv that is cited for oxandrolone's effects on lipoproteins. it observed decreases / increases in HDL / LDL in the 30-50% range:

20mg daily for 12 weeks

HDL decreased 30%
LDL increased 15%

40mg daily for 12 weeks

HDL decreased 33%
LDL increased 27%

80mg daily for 12 weeks

HDL decreased 50%
LDL increased 31%



Grunfeld C, Kotler DP, Dobs A, Glesby M, Bhasin S. Oxandrolone in the treatment of HIV-associated weight loss in men: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study. J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr. 2006 Mar;41(3):304-14. doi: 10.1097/01.qai.0000197546.56131.40. PMID: 16540931.

Abstract
Objective: To evaluate the efficacy and safety of oxandrolone in promoting body weight and body cell mass (BCM) gain in HIV-associated weight loss.

Methods: Randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial. Two hundred sixty-two HIV-infected men with documented 10% to 20% weight loss or body mass index < or =20 kg/m were randomized to placebo or to 20, 40, or 80 mg of oxandrolone daily. After 12 weeks, subjects were allowed to receive open-label oxandrolone at a dose of 20 mg for another 12 weeks.

Results: Body weight increased in all groups, including the group receiving placebo, during the double-blind phase (1.1 +/- 2.7, 1.8 +/- 3.9, 2.8 +/- 3.3, and 2.3 +/- 2.9 kg in placebo and 20-, 40-, and 80-mg oxandrolone groups, respectively; all P < 0.014 vs. baseline). BCM increased from baseline in all groups (0.45 +/- 1.7, 0.91 +/- 2.2, 1.5 +/- 2.5, and 1.8 +/- 1.8 kg in placebo and 20-, 40-, and 80-mg oxandrolone groups, respectively). At 12 weeks, only the gain in weight at the 40-mg dose of oxandrolone and the gain in BCM at the 40- and 80-mg doses of oxandrolone were greater than those in the placebo group, however. Oxandrolone treatment was associated with significant suppression of sex hormone-binding globulin, luteinizing hormone, follicle-stimulating hormone, and total and free testosterone levels. Treatment was generally well tolerated but accompanied by significant increases in transaminases and low-density lipoprotein as well as decreases in high-density lipoprotein.

Conclusion: Oxandrolone administration is effective in promoting dose-dependent gains in body weight and BCM in HIV-infected men with weight loss.

 

[Theworm]

Wow. That's a huge change!

There was major study that examined anavar as a weight loss treatment in hiv that is cited for oxandrolone's effects on lipoproteins. it observed decreases / increases in HDL / LDL in the 30-50% range:

20mg daily for 12 weeks

HDL decreased 30%
LDL increased 15%

40mg daily for 12 weeks

HDL decreased 33%
LDL increased 27%

80mg daily for 12 weeks

HDL decreased 50%
LDL increased 31%

View attachment 142907

Grunfeld C, Kotler DP, Dobs A, Glesby M, Bhasin S. Oxandrolone in the treatment of HIV-associated weight loss in men: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study. J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr. 2006 Mar;41(3):304-14. doi: 10.1097/01.qai.0000197546.56131.40. PMID: 16540931.

Abstract
Objective: To evaluate the efficacy and safety of oxandrolone in promoting body weight and body cell mass (BCM) gain in HIV-associated weight loss.

Methods: Randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial. Two hundred sixty-two HIV-infected men with documented 10% to 20% weight loss or body mass index < or =20 kg/m were randomized to placebo or to 20, 40, or 80 mg of oxandrolone daily. After 12 weeks, subjects were allowed to receive open-label oxandrolone at a dose of 20 mg for another 12 weeks.

Results: Body weight increased in all groups, including the group receiving placebo, during the double-blind phase (1.1 +/- 2.7, 1.8 +/- 3.9, 2.8 +/- 3.3, and 2.3 +/- 2.9 kg in placebo and 20-, 40-, and 80-mg oxandrolone groups, respectively; all P < 0.014 vs. baseline). BCM increased from baseline in all groups (0.45 +/- 1.7, 0.91 +/- 2.2, 1.5 +/- 2.5, and 1.8 +/- 1.8 kg in placebo and 20-, 40-, and 80-mg oxandrolone groups, respectively). At 12 weeks, only the gain in weight at the 40-mg dose of oxandrolone and the gain in BCM at the 40- and 80-mg doses of oxandrolone were greater than those in the placebo group, however. Oxandrolone treatment was associated with significant suppression of sex hormone-binding globulin, luteinizing hormone, follicle-stimulating hormone, and total and free testosterone levels. Treatment was generally well tolerated but accompanied by significant increases in transaminases and low-density lipoprotein as well as decreases in high-density lipoprotein.

Conclusion: Oxandrolone administration is effective in promoting dose-dependent gains in body weight and BCM in HIV-infected men with weight loss.

Yes and that study was oxandrolone solo, I ran it with test, AI, and I usually add deca which all lower hdl and raise ldl in addition to the oxandrolone.

Wish that study looked at blood pressure, seems like orals for me usually raise it more than injectibles.

 

[Millard]

Yes and that study was oxandrolone solo, I ran it with test, AI, and I usually add deca which all lower hdl and raise ldl in addition to the oxandrolone.

Wish that study looked at blood pressure, seems like orals for me usually raise it more than injectibles.

What were the dosages of test and deca? Arimidex too?

 

[Theworm]

What were the dosages of test and deca? Arimidex too?

400 test C, 400 deca and 0.5 arimidex EOD
All from a us pharmacy, even the ox

 

[Millard]

400 test C, 400 deca and 0.5 arimidex EOD
All from a us pharmacy, even the ox

I think most would consider it a moderate cycle, and not particularly aggressive. It would be nice to know the relative contribution of each compound on lipid alterations. But that's always the uncertainty with real-world use...

 

[Theworm]

I think most would consider it a moderate cycle, and not particularly aggressive. It would be nice to know the relative contribution of each compound on lipid alterations. But that's always the uncertainty with real-world use...

I’ve run test and deca by itself and my hdl was maybe 30 and ldl 130, so the oxandrolone in my case made a big difference.
Good news is that even though the oxandrolone made my hdl drop to 17, one month after stopping is was 42. It’s a quick rebound. My ldl dropped from 180 to around 115 one month after

 

[LittleD90]

Wow. That's a huge change!

There was major study that examined anavar as a weight loss treatment in hiv that is cited for oxandrolone's effects on lipoproteins. it observed decreases / increases in HDL / LDL in the 30-50% range:

20mg daily for 12 weeks

HDL decreased 30%
LDL increased 15%

40mg daily for 12 weeks

HDL decreased 33%
LDL increased 27%

80mg daily for 12 weeks

HDL decreased 50%
LDL increased 31%

View attachment 142907

Grunfeld C, Kotler DP, Dobs A, Glesby M, Bhasin S. Oxandrolone in the treatment of HIV-associated weight loss in men: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study. J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr. 2006 Mar;41(3):304-14. doi: 10.1097/01.qai.0000197546.56131.40. PMID: 16540931.

Abstract
Objective: To evaluate the efficacy and safety of oxandrolone in promoting body weight and body cell mass (BCM) gain in HIV-associated weight loss.

Methods: Randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial. Two hundred sixty-two HIV-infected men with documented 10% to 20% weight loss or body mass index < or =20 kg/m were randomized to placebo or to 20, 40, or 80 mg of oxandrolone daily. After 12 weeks, subjects were allowed to receive open-label oxandrolone at a dose of 20 mg for another 12 weeks.

Results: Body weight increased in all groups, including the group receiving placebo, during the double-blind phase (1.1 +/- 2.7, 1.8 +/- 3.9, 2.8 +/- 3.3, and 2.3 +/- 2.9 kg in placebo and 20-, 40-, and 80-mg oxandrolone groups, respectively; all P < 0.014 vs. baseline). BCM increased from baseline in all groups (0.45 +/- 1.7, 0.91 +/- 2.2, 1.5 +/- 2.5, and 1.8 +/- 1.8 kg in placebo and 20-, 40-, and 80-mg oxandrolone groups, respectively). At 12 weeks, only the gain in weight at the 40-mg dose of oxandrolone and the gain in BCM at the 40- and 80-mg doses of oxandrolone were greater than those in the placebo group, however. Oxandrolone treatment was associated with significant suppression of sex hormone-binding globulin, luteinizing hormone, follicle-stimulating hormone, and total and free testosterone levels. Treatment was generally well tolerated but accompanied by significant increases in transaminases and low-density lipoprotein as well as decreases in high-density lipoprotein.

Conclusion: Oxandrolone administration is effective in promoting dose-dependent gains in body weight and BCM in HIV-infected men with weight loss.

Wait, so anavar lowers lipoprotein (a)?
this I need to know... cause fuck me mine needs to be lowered

 

[Bumpygooch]

Love to run it, but, at 47, my HDL was crushed by masteron, and I’m now on rosuvastatin as well, so, anavar seems to be a no go.

 

[Human_backhoe]

Love to run it, but, at 47, my HDL was crushed by masteron, and I’m now on rosuvastatin as well, so, anavar seems to be a no go.

So odd. It doesn't change mine hardly at all.

Mast npp test anavar. Hdl didn't move ldl went up a touch but nothing to bother remembering.

Edit I had to drop the cycle at week 6 due to injury

 

[Ss99]

Aside from the effect it has on lipids this is the safest and most versatile steroid in my opinion, and also it’s also my favourite. Too bad it can’t be run long-term unless you want to play Russian roulette with your cardiovascular health, even though you could argue that this is the case with using any PED.

Studied extensively, low toxicity, no mental side-effects, very effective for increasing strength and an awesome muscle builder. I just have to mindful of extreme shin pumps on it if I’m using 30+mg without also supplementing with taurine, blood pressure, and higher doses do make me feel that my estrogen is low (without affecting serum estradiol).

 

[Bumpygooch]

So odd. It doesn't change mine hardly at all.

Mast npp test anavar. Hdl didn't move ldl went up a touch but nothing to bother remembering.

Edit I had to drop the cycle at week 6 due to injury

I ran anavar for 3 weeks post shoulder op for the collagen synthesis, never ran bloods, so, I’m unsure of it’s affect on my HDL. But, with a 15 after maybe 200mg/week masteron, I don’t think anavar is prudent for me, or orals in general, for that matter.

 

[LittleD90]

Aside from the effect it has on lipids this is the safest and most versatile steroid in my opinion, and also it’s also my favourite. Too bad it can’t be run long-term unless you want to play Russian roulette with your cardiovascular health, even though you could argue that this is the case with using any PED.

Studied extensively, low toxicity, no mental side-effects, very effective for increasing strength and an awesome muscle builder. I just have to mindful of extreme shin pumps on it if I’m using 30+mg without also supplementing with taurine, blood pressure, and higher doses do make me feel that my estrogen is low (without affecting serum estradiol).

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