Human_backhoe
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Handle 36.....
Possibly, I don't care to speculate quite yet.
Low IQ most definitely. Look at the spelling.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Anyone else about sick to fucking death of the term "social distancing"?
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Handle 36.....
Possibly, I don't care to speculate quite yet.
Low IQ most definitely. Look at the spelling.
Misspelled names are harder to search.
As for the Church, you have a bunch of foaming at the mouth Pentecostals, perhaps the most insane of all denominations, rolling around on the floor, talking in tongues, clutching their KJV bibles......burning a church down is just taking it to the next level for these folks.
Skard
Well-known Member
I think you're right. I mean the guy is talking about covid death rates of 15-20%. WTF? Come on, man.
That is a steaming pile of horseshit. Except horseshit has some value because it grows great vegetables.
It was no one, just a hoax. I agree it did sound like him. No excuse for me not verifying it before passing it on, though.
If by rules you meant the suggestions you gave immediately following that quote, I agree completely. But if you meant those rules imposed by myriad governors around the country, I'm guessing you haven't been paying attention.
you would have to be a fool to believe that covid 19 has anything approaching 18% fatality rate. Worldometer also provides the number of serious/critical cases and this number is between 1-2% of all active cases. That means that of all the active cases between 98-99% are non life threatening. Also, I challenge anyone to take a look at Singapore’s infection to death rate. They have one of the highest infection rates in the world and their death rate is practically non-existent. Feel free to debate me on this I’m more than happy to reply.
"Outcome of total closed cases (recovery rate vs death rate)"
This should always be distinguished from "case fatality rate" and "infection fatality rate".
They are very different measures for covid-19. And they are not interchangeable.
This should always be distinguished from "case fatality rate" and "infection fatality rate".
They are very different measures for covid-19. And they are not interchangeable.
Villain
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I laughed my ass off at that clown getting pied.
Almost as if he's been reading this thread...
Lockdown saved no lives and may have cost them, Nobel Prize winner believes
Professor Michael Levitt of Stanford University predicts that the UK will be rid of Covid-19 within weeks
By Tom Morgan 23 May 2020 • 9:30pm
Lockdown caused more deaths than it saved, a Nobel laureate scientist said on Saturday, as he predicted the UK would emerge from Covid-19 within weeks.
Michael Levitt, a Stanford University professor who correctly predicted the initial trajectory of the pandemic, sent messages to Professor Neil Ferguson in March telling the influential government advisor he had over-estimated the potential death toll by "10 or 12 times".
The Imperial College professor's modelling, a major factor in the Government's apparent abandoning of a so-called herd-immunity policy, was part of an unnecessary "panic virus" which spread among global political leaders, Prof Levitt now tells the Telegraph.
Prof Levitt, a British-American-Israeli who shared the Nobel prize for chemistry in 2013 for the "development of multiscale models for complex chemical systems", has said for two months that the planet will beat coronavirus faster than most other experts predict.
"I think lockdown saved no lives," said the scientist, who added that the Government should have encouraged Britons to wear masks and adhere to other forms of social distancing.
"I think it may have cost lives. It will have saved a few road accident lives - things like that - but social damage - domestic abuse, divorces, alcoholism - has been extreme. And then you have those who were not treated for other conditions."
Having assessed the initial outbreak in China and from the infected Diamond Princess cruise ship, he predicted by March 14 that the UK would lose around 50,000 lives. Prof Ferguson's modelling that same week estimated up to 500,000 deaths without social distancing measures.
"I think that the real virus was the panic virus," Prof Levitt told the Telegraph. "For reasons that were not clear to me, I think the leaders panicked and the people panicked and I think there was a huge lack of discussion."
The 73-year-old has no background as an epidemiologist, but he assessed the outbreak in China and prepared a paper based on his own calculations. Most countries, he predicted, would suffer a Covid-19 death rate worth around an extra month in excess deaths over the calendar year.
"In Europe, I don't think that anything actually stopped the virus other than some kind of burnout," he added. "There's a huge number of people who are asymptomatic so I would seriously imagine that by the time lockdown was finally introduced in the UK the virus was already widely spread. They could have just stayed open like Sweden by that stage and nothing would have happened."
Professor Levitt has now analysed the data from 78 nations with more than 50 reported cases of coronavirus. His investigations proved the virus was never going to achieve the type of exponential growth that the researchers at Imperial were predicting at the same time.
"There is no doubt that you can stop an epidemic with lockdown but it's a very blunt and very medieval weapon and the epidemic could have been stopped just as effectively with other sensible measures (such as masks and other forms of social distancing)," he added.
"It turns out numbers are played out very consistently when you look at all the places that have been badly hit, particularly in Europe. The token number of deaths before things stop is about one month of natural deaths, which is something like one in a thousand."
Based on his estimates, Britain was due to suffer around 50,000 deaths in totals. "A lot of things went wrong but I think the main thing is that we just needed to think and discuss things a little bit," he added. "I was told on numerous occasions 'you are not an epidemiologist, shut up'. I don't really care. I was just looking at the numbers. I was looking at the cruise ship, looking at Wuhan. The same number held for these places."
The virus "has saturated", he believes, across Europe. "I think the lockdown will cause much more damage than the deaths saved," he added. "When I saw the briefing (from Prof Ferguson) I was shocked. I had a run-in with him when I actually saw that Ferguson's death rate was a year's worth - doubling the normal death rate. I saw that and said immediately that's completely wrong. I think Ferguson over-estimated 10 or 12 times. We should have seen from China that a virus never grows exponentially. From the very first case you see, exponential growth actually slows down very dramatically.
"The problem with epidemiologists is that they feel their job is to frighten people into lockdown, social distancing. So you say 'there's going to be a million deaths' and when there are only 25,000 you say 'it's good you listened to my advice'. This happened with Ebola and bird flu. It's just part of the madness."
Prof Levitt says the global evidence shows the virus fades in dry heat and in much of the western world "there seems to be some kind of immunity". "The main worry I would have would be in China," he said when asked about the prospect of a second outbreak. "I am 73 and I feel very young," he added. "I don't care about the risk at all. As you get old the risk of dying from disease is so high that this is the time to buy a motorcycle, go skiing!"
"The problem with epidemiologists is that they feel their job is to frighten people into lockdown, social distancing. So you say 'there's going to be a million deaths' and when there are only 25,000 you say 'it's good you listened to my advice'. This happened with Ebola and bird flu. It's just part of the madness."
Lockdown saved no lives and may have cost them, Nobel Prize winner believes
Professor Michael Levitt of Stanford University predicts that the UK will be rid of Covid-19 within weeks
By Tom Morgan 23 May 2020 • 9:30pm
Lockdown caused more deaths than it saved, a Nobel laureate scientist said on Saturday, as he predicted the UK would emerge from Covid-19 within weeks.
Michael Levitt, a Stanford University professor who correctly predicted the initial trajectory of the pandemic, sent messages to Professor Neil Ferguson in March telling the influential government advisor he had over-estimated the potential death toll by "10 or 12 times".
The Imperial College professor's modelling, a major factor in the Government's apparent abandoning of a so-called herd-immunity policy, was part of an unnecessary "panic virus" which spread among global political leaders, Prof Levitt now tells the Telegraph.
Prof Levitt, a British-American-Israeli who shared the Nobel prize for chemistry in 2013 for the "development of multiscale models for complex chemical systems", has said for two months that the planet will beat coronavirus faster than most other experts predict.
"I think lockdown saved no lives," said the scientist, who added that the Government should have encouraged Britons to wear masks and adhere to other forms of social distancing.
"I think it may have cost lives. It will have saved a few road accident lives - things like that - but social damage - domestic abuse, divorces, alcoholism - has been extreme. And then you have those who were not treated for other conditions."
Having assessed the initial outbreak in China and from the infected Diamond Princess cruise ship, he predicted by March 14 that the UK would lose around 50,000 lives. Prof Ferguson's modelling that same week estimated up to 500,000 deaths without social distancing measures.
"I think that the real virus was the panic virus," Prof Levitt told the Telegraph. "For reasons that were not clear to me, I think the leaders panicked and the people panicked and I think there was a huge lack of discussion."
The 73-year-old has no background as an epidemiologist, but he assessed the outbreak in China and prepared a paper based on his own calculations. Most countries, he predicted, would suffer a Covid-19 death rate worth around an extra month in excess deaths over the calendar year.
"In Europe, I don't think that anything actually stopped the virus other than some kind of burnout," he added. "There's a huge number of people who are asymptomatic so I would seriously imagine that by the time lockdown was finally introduced in the UK the virus was already widely spread. They could have just stayed open like Sweden by that stage and nothing would have happened."
Professor Levitt has now analysed the data from 78 nations with more than 50 reported cases of coronavirus. His investigations proved the virus was never going to achieve the type of exponential growth that the researchers at Imperial were predicting at the same time.
"There is no doubt that you can stop an epidemic with lockdown but it's a very blunt and very medieval weapon and the epidemic could have been stopped just as effectively with other sensible measures (such as masks and other forms of social distancing)," he added.
"It turns out numbers are played out very consistently when you look at all the places that have been badly hit, particularly in Europe. The token number of deaths before things stop is about one month of natural deaths, which is something like one in a thousand."
Based on his estimates, Britain was due to suffer around 50,000 deaths in totals. "A lot of things went wrong but I think the main thing is that we just needed to think and discuss things a little bit," he added. "I was told on numerous occasions 'you are not an epidemiologist, shut up'. I don't really care. I was just looking at the numbers. I was looking at the cruise ship, looking at Wuhan. The same number held for these places."
The virus "has saturated", he believes, across Europe. "I think the lockdown will cause much more damage than the deaths saved," he added. "When I saw the briefing (from Prof Ferguson) I was shocked. I had a run-in with him when I actually saw that Ferguson's death rate was a year's worth - doubling the normal death rate. I saw that and said immediately that's completely wrong. I think Ferguson over-estimated 10 or 12 times. We should have seen from China that a virus never grows exponentially. From the very first case you see, exponential growth actually slows down very dramatically.
"The problem with epidemiologists is that they feel their job is to frighten people into lockdown, social distancing. So you say 'there's going to be a million deaths' and when there are only 25,000 you say 'it's good you listened to my advice'. This happened with Ebola and bird flu. It's just part of the madness."
Prof Levitt says the global evidence shows the virus fades in dry heat and in much of the western world "there seems to be some kind of immunity". "The main worry I would have would be in China," he said when asked about the prospect of a second outbreak. "I am 73 and I feel very young," he added. "I don't care about the risk at all. As you get old the risk of dying from disease is so high that this is the time to buy a motorcycle, go skiing!"
Villain
Member
Belgian health minister (oxymoron much?) gets the same treatment Bill Gates got.
juicy122
Member
just a quick question i have an appointment tom at a hospital something not corona related. Is it safe to go there or will i be at a higher risk of catching this shit?
hfo369
New Member
You’ll likely be diagnosed with covid 19 wether you have it or not.. it’s all about pumping up the fake numbers so they can continue to push their global agenda
juicy122
Member
loool i swear lmao better not do that to me. If they wanna test me instead of temp check i will literally say no and forget about this appointment till later.
The author makes some valid points as many have questioned the benefit of a US lockdown from the beginning but hindsight is always 20/20 when hospitals are overrun and patients are dropping like flies.
Yet the benefit of a lockdown during a PANDEMIC rather than an EPIDEMIC has a dubious record as a means of effective mitigation.
A more practical approach is warranted. One in which we cease appeasing the sensationalistic media beast -- who are feeding competing epidemiologists (a new "expert" is interviewed every day) in need of data to prove their model can predict HUMAN BEHAVIOR more reliably than anyone else.
Pending the arrival of a vaccine there ARE ways to limit the spread and/or mortality of this disease. It starts with social distancing, PPE, isolating folk at greatest risk of mortality, and those with established COVID-19 or RESPIRATORY symptoms etc.
JIM
Unfortunately he fails to mention how a "huge number of asymptomatic people" are quantified in the UK or elsewhere.
And consequently the broad brush opinions of this author and those like him will be ignored in the absence of prospective evidence.
jim
And consequently the broad brush opinions of this author and those like him will be ignored in the absence of prospective evidence.
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It funny that governments were happy to shut down life as we know it based on the sound evidence that 200k Brits and 2 million Americans were going to die.
My understanding is he made estimates based on cruise ships using the number of infected with and without symptoms. Then determined the number of asymptomatic people in different countries based on the number of known infections with symptoms and the ratio from the cruise ships.
Another expert apparently following this thread..
‘Nothing can justify this destruction of people’s lives’
Yoram Lass, former director of Israel’s Health Ministry, on the hysteria around Covid-19.
spiked
22nd May 2020
Countries across the world have been in lockdown for months in response to the coronavirus pandemic. The costs of the policy are enormous – in terms of life, liberty and the economy. But is it worth it to save lives? Yoram Lass was once the director-general of Israel’s Ministry of Health. Lass is a staunch critic of the lockdown policy adopted in his native Israel and around the world. He has described our response to Covid-19 as a form of hysteria. spiked caught up with him to find out more.
spiked: You have described the global response to coronavirus as hysteria. Can you explain that?
Yoram Lass: It is the first epidemic in history which is accompanied by another epidemic – the virus of the social networks. These new media have brainwashed entire populations. What you get is fear and anxiety, and an inability to look at real data. And therefore you have all the ingredients for monstrous hysteria.
It is what is known in science as positive feedback or a snowball effect. The government is afraid of its constituents. Therefore, it implements draconian measures. The constituents look at the draconian measures and become even more hysterical. They feed each other and the snowball becomes larger and larger until you reach irrational territory. This is nothing more than a flu epidemic if you care to look at the numbers and the data, but people who are in a state of anxiety are blind. If I were making the decisions, I would try to give people the real numbers. And I would never destroy my country.
spiked: What do the numbers tell us, in your view?
Lass: Mortality due to coronavirus is a fake number. Most people are not dying from coronavirus. Those recording deaths simply change the label. If patients died from leukaemia, from metastatic cancer, from cardiovascular disease or from dementia, they put coronavirus. Also, the number of infected people is fake, because it depends on the number of tests. The more tests you do the more infected people you get.
The only real number is the total number of deaths – all causes of death, not just coronavirus. If you look at those numbers, you will see that every winter we get what is called an excess death rate. That is, during the winter more people die compared to the average, due to regular, seasonal flu epidemics, which nobody cares about. If you look at the coronavirus wave on a graph, you will see that it looks like a spike. Coronavirus comes very fast, but it also goes away very fast. The influenza wave is shallow as it takes three months to pass, but coronavirus takes one month. If you count the number of people who die in terms of excess mortality – which is the area under the curve – you will see that during the coronavirus season, we have had an excess mortality which is about 15 per cent larger than the epidemic of regular flu in 2017.
Compared to that rise, the draconian measures are of biblical proportions. Hundreds of millions of people are suffering. In developing countries many will die from starvation. In developed countries many will die from unemployment. Unemployment is mortality. More people will die from the measures than from the virus. And the people who die from the measures are the breadwinners. They are younger. Among the people who die from coronavirus, the median age is often higher than the life expectancy of the population. What has been done is not proportionate. But people are afraid. People are brainwashed. They do not listen to the data. And that includes governments.
spiked: Do the lockdowns have any positive effect on people’s safety?
Lass: Any reasonable expert – that is, anyone but Professor Ferguson from Imperial College who would have locked down everybody when we had swine flu – will tell you that lockdown cannot change the final number of infected people. It can only change the rate of infection. And people argue that by changing the rate of infection and ‘flattening the curve’, we prevented the collapse of hospitals. I have shown you the costs of lockdown, but this was the argument in favour of it. But look at Sweden. No lockdown and no collapse of hospitals. The argument for the lockdown collapses.
spiked: Why have some countries suffered so much more than others from Covid-19?
Lass: For example, you can compare Italy to Israel. In the Middle East, this virus is not really working. There are two reasons. One is that there is a very young population, and the other is that the climate is different. In the latitude of 50 degrees, which is Europe, and 40, which is the north-eastern United States, the virus is much more viable. Italy has the oldest population in the world apart from Japan. Italians are also are heavy smokers and very social people – they keep hugging and kissing. If you look at the numbers, in 2017, 25,000 Italians died from flu complications. Now you have around 30,000 dying from coronavirus. So it is a comparable number. You should not ruin a country for comparable numbers.
spiked: What has it been like in Israel?
Lass: In Israel, we have two layers of fear. The hysteria is similar to the rest of the world. However, we have a prime minister who has been resuscitated by coronavirus by adding another layer of fear. I do not think there is any other prime minister who has spoken about coronavirus in terms of the medieval Black Death, the Holocaust and the end of humanity in this way. Did Boris Johnson mention the Black Death? I do not think so. That is the special situation in Israel.
spiked: How does coronavirus compare to past pandemics?
Lass: If you look at the 1950s, we had the Asian flu. In the 1960s, there was the Hong Kong flu. These were worse than this pandemic. Also, look at the story of swine flu in 2009, which began exactly the same as coronavirus. A new virus originated in Mexico. There was no vaccine so it was very frightening. It spread all over the world. It infected one billion people. A quarter of a million people died. But there was no lockdown, no Ferguson, nothing – people were far more interested in the economic crisis that hit a year before in 2008. They did not have time to give attention to this nonsense.
spiked: Will the pandemic be over soon?
Lass: The virus, like the influenza virus, is saying farewell to western Europe for sure. The same in the Middle East. In the United States, we do not know yet, so we should talk in a month from now. But nothing can justify this destruction of people’s lives. It is unbelievable.
Yoram Lass was talking to Fraser Myers.
‘Nothing can justify this destruction of people’s lives’
Yoram Lass, former director of Israel’s Health Ministry, on the hysteria around Covid-19.
spiked
22nd May 2020
Countries across the world have been in lockdown for months in response to the coronavirus pandemic. The costs of the policy are enormous – in terms of life, liberty and the economy. But is it worth it to save lives? Yoram Lass was once the director-general of Israel’s Ministry of Health. Lass is a staunch critic of the lockdown policy adopted in his native Israel and around the world. He has described our response to Covid-19 as a form of hysteria. spiked caught up with him to find out more.
spiked: You have described the global response to coronavirus as hysteria. Can you explain that?
Yoram Lass: It is the first epidemic in history which is accompanied by another epidemic – the virus of the social networks. These new media have brainwashed entire populations. What you get is fear and anxiety, and an inability to look at real data. And therefore you have all the ingredients for monstrous hysteria.
It is what is known in science as positive feedback or a snowball effect. The government is afraid of its constituents. Therefore, it implements draconian measures. The constituents look at the draconian measures and become even more hysterical. They feed each other and the snowball becomes larger and larger until you reach irrational territory. This is nothing more than a flu epidemic if you care to look at the numbers and the data, but people who are in a state of anxiety are blind. If I were making the decisions, I would try to give people the real numbers. And I would never destroy my country.
spiked: What do the numbers tell us, in your view?
Lass: Mortality due to coronavirus is a fake number. Most people are not dying from coronavirus. Those recording deaths simply change the label. If patients died from leukaemia, from metastatic cancer, from cardiovascular disease or from dementia, they put coronavirus. Also, the number of infected people is fake, because it depends on the number of tests. The more tests you do the more infected people you get.
The only real number is the total number of deaths – all causes of death, not just coronavirus. If you look at those numbers, you will see that every winter we get what is called an excess death rate. That is, during the winter more people die compared to the average, due to regular, seasonal flu epidemics, which nobody cares about. If you look at the coronavirus wave on a graph, you will see that it looks like a spike. Coronavirus comes very fast, but it also goes away very fast. The influenza wave is shallow as it takes three months to pass, but coronavirus takes one month. If you count the number of people who die in terms of excess mortality – which is the area under the curve – you will see that during the coronavirus season, we have had an excess mortality which is about 15 per cent larger than the epidemic of regular flu in 2017.
Compared to that rise, the draconian measures are of biblical proportions. Hundreds of millions of people are suffering. In developing countries many will die from starvation. In developed countries many will die from unemployment. Unemployment is mortality. More people will die from the measures than from the virus. And the people who die from the measures are the breadwinners. They are younger. Among the people who die from coronavirus, the median age is often higher than the life expectancy of the population. What has been done is not proportionate. But people are afraid. People are brainwashed. They do not listen to the data. And that includes governments.
spiked: Do the lockdowns have any positive effect on people’s safety?
Lass: Any reasonable expert – that is, anyone but Professor Ferguson from Imperial College who would have locked down everybody when we had swine flu – will tell you that lockdown cannot change the final number of infected people. It can only change the rate of infection. And people argue that by changing the rate of infection and ‘flattening the curve’, we prevented the collapse of hospitals. I have shown you the costs of lockdown, but this was the argument in favour of it. But look at Sweden. No lockdown and no collapse of hospitals. The argument for the lockdown collapses.
spiked: Why have some countries suffered so much more than others from Covid-19?
Lass: For example, you can compare Italy to Israel. In the Middle East, this virus is not really working. There are two reasons. One is that there is a very young population, and the other is that the climate is different. In the latitude of 50 degrees, which is Europe, and 40, which is the north-eastern United States, the virus is much more viable. Italy has the oldest population in the world apart from Japan. Italians are also are heavy smokers and very social people – they keep hugging and kissing. If you look at the numbers, in 2017, 25,000 Italians died from flu complications. Now you have around 30,000 dying from coronavirus. So it is a comparable number. You should not ruin a country for comparable numbers.
spiked: What has it been like in Israel?
Lass: In Israel, we have two layers of fear. The hysteria is similar to the rest of the world. However, we have a prime minister who has been resuscitated by coronavirus by adding another layer of fear. I do not think there is any other prime minister who has spoken about coronavirus in terms of the medieval Black Death, the Holocaust and the end of humanity in this way. Did Boris Johnson mention the Black Death? I do not think so. That is the special situation in Israel.
spiked: How does coronavirus compare to past pandemics?
Lass: If you look at the 1950s, we had the Asian flu. In the 1960s, there was the Hong Kong flu. These were worse than this pandemic. Also, look at the story of swine flu in 2009, which began exactly the same as coronavirus. A new virus originated in Mexico. There was no vaccine so it was very frightening. It spread all over the world. It infected one billion people. A quarter of a million people died. But there was no lockdown, no Ferguson, nothing – people were far more interested in the economic crisis that hit a year before in 2008. They did not have time to give attention to this nonsense.
spiked: Will the pandemic be over soon?
Lass: The virus, like the influenza virus, is saying farewell to western Europe for sure. The same in the Middle East. In the United States, we do not know yet, so we should talk in a month from now. But nothing can justify this destruction of people’s lives. It is unbelievable.
Yoram Lass was talking to Fraser Myers.
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CDC quietly releases the numbers on SARS-COV2.
Where’s the coverage, media??
Press releases appear to only matter when they can cause a frenzy.
Just to update:
* Ro = 2.5. I’ve had this graphic for over a month. Why did it take so long for the CDC to release this same information to the public?? And why do so, so covertly?
* NOTHING to indicate it lives or spreads from surfaces (testing now completed via lab)
* NOTHING to indicate any transfer opportunities from an Asymptomatic Carrier
* NOTHING to indicate that you can be re-infected (testing now completed on the prior suspected reinfections showed the tests hit positive on dead virus because the tests couldn't distinguish live from dead at that time)
* The new death rate is .26% (0.0026). This includes people who died in hospices from existing disease, traumas and other causes of deaths who cultured positive post mortem or didn't culture at all but lives with someone who did.
As reference, the flu is 0.1-0.3%
Ro and SCFR by age and new links in this CDC page. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavir…/…/hcp/planning-scenarios.html
Explains what you’re looking at on the CDC page
https://www.conservativereview.com/…/horowitz-cdc-confirms…/
Further corroborates.
Facts about Covid-19
Surfaces
https://www.foxnews.com/…/cdc-now-says-coronavirus-does-not…
Asymptomatic carriers
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32405162/…
“...there has been no documented asymptomatic transmission.”
https://www.who.int/…/situa…/20200402-sitrep-73-covid-19.pdf
Reinfections
https://www.sciencenews.org/…/coronavirus-covid19-reinfecti…
Are you angry yet? We destroyed the economy over this. We tore apart friends and families over this. We attacked our fellow AMERICANS over this. THEY MANIPULATED OUR EMOTIONS over this.
For what? To make money. For a “treatment” with a cost of $1000 per dose that showed a measly 3.6% drop in fatality rate, and a reduction in ICU from 15 to a “whopping” 11 days as a standard of care (remdesivir)? Despite ample data that another cheaper treatment at 60¢ per dose that works when given early and paired with zinc. Have you seen one hydroxychloroquine study that was done where they gave it at the onset of symptoms and paired it with zinc? No. You saw one where they gave it as a last ditch Hail Mary when it was already too late for antivirals to work, and no mention of zinc.
https://aapsonline.org/a-tale-of-two-drugs-money-vs-medica…/
Why? Nothing could interfere with the $750 BILLION they stand to gain from the vaccine for the entire planet.
Profits over science. Profits over LIVES and livelihoods!!
And to chip away at our freedoms.
Time to get angry at the SOURCE. And not each other. STAND TOGETHER and FIGHT for our constitutional LIBERTIES before it’s TOO LATE.
Let me be clear. The media (most of them) are the problem. But the SOURCE is the pharmaceutical interests that fund them, and threaten them, control them. The puppet masters need to be stopped.
Where’s the coverage, media??
Press releases appear to only matter when they can cause a frenzy.
Just to update:
* Ro = 2.5. I’ve had this graphic for over a month. Why did it take so long for the CDC to release this same information to the public?? And why do so, so covertly?
* NOTHING to indicate it lives or spreads from surfaces (testing now completed via lab)
* NOTHING to indicate any transfer opportunities from an Asymptomatic Carrier
* NOTHING to indicate that you can be re-infected (testing now completed on the prior suspected reinfections showed the tests hit positive on dead virus because the tests couldn't distinguish live from dead at that time)
* The new death rate is .26% (0.0026). This includes people who died in hospices from existing disease, traumas and other causes of deaths who cultured positive post mortem or didn't culture at all but lives with someone who did.
As reference, the flu is 0.1-0.3%
Ro and SCFR by age and new links in this CDC page. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavir…/…/hcp/planning-scenarios.html
Explains what you’re looking at on the CDC page
https://www.conservativereview.com/…/horowitz-cdc-confirms…/
Further corroborates.
Facts about Covid-19
Surfaces
https://www.foxnews.com/…/cdc-now-says-coronavirus-does-not…
Asymptomatic carriers
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32405162/…
“...there has been no documented asymptomatic transmission.”
https://www.who.int/…/situa…/20200402-sitrep-73-covid-19.pdf
Reinfections
https://www.sciencenews.org/…/coronavirus-covid19-reinfecti…
Are you angry yet? We destroyed the economy over this. We tore apart friends and families over this. We attacked our fellow AMERICANS over this. THEY MANIPULATED OUR EMOTIONS over this.
For what? To make money. For a “treatment” with a cost of $1000 per dose that showed a measly 3.6% drop in fatality rate, and a reduction in ICU from 15 to a “whopping” 11 days as a standard of care (remdesivir)? Despite ample data that another cheaper treatment at 60¢ per dose that works when given early and paired with zinc. Have you seen one hydroxychloroquine study that was done where they gave it at the onset of symptoms and paired it with zinc? No. You saw one where they gave it as a last ditch Hail Mary when it was already too late for antivirals to work, and no mention of zinc.
https://aapsonline.org/a-tale-of-two-drugs-money-vs-medica…/
Why? Nothing could interfere with the $750 BILLION they stand to gain from the vaccine for the entire planet.
Profits over science. Profits over LIVES and livelihoods!!
And to chip away at our freedoms.
Time to get angry at the SOURCE. And not each other. STAND TOGETHER and FIGHT for our constitutional LIBERTIES before it’s TOO LATE.
Let me be clear. The media (most of them) are the problem. But the SOURCE is the pharmaceutical interests that fund them, and threaten them, control them. The puppet masters need to be stopped.
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