trtbuilder
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MC and Axle are equal opportunity guaiacol bathers. Gotta love it.
@Axle Labs Glad you saved that "I told you so" before. Oops.
@Axle Labs Glad you saved that "I told you so" before. Oops.
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bigboy420
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nightprowler7
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poolshockguy
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Where axle at for explanation?
Thanks for doing this.
We’ve created multiple stations and separated out the brewing lines for any Guaiacol-containing compounds to prevent any trace Guaiacol from entering other brews, (pics a few pages back - we did this right away even when someone mentioned the smell.. it was just smarter to do this regardless if the test came back positive or negative)
We also added a 3rd vacuum pump/bottle-top brewing station (vs. peristaltic pump) which doesn’t use lines.
(I explain this a few pages back also with pics).
Anyone with grey top Tren-A 100 batch C48, please email us for either refund / store credit / replacement (whatever you prefer)
We do apologize and are improving our process based on this!
@nightprowler7 shoot us an email for refund + testing credit / compensation or whatever you’d like.
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Chmewy
Member
Thank you. I also had the same batch so it’s nice to know
nightprowler7
Member
I feel this is a reasonable solution and I do give you credit for your professionalism throughout our initial conversation. I also feel you setting up a second brewing station before I even got the result, Is a responsible mature thing to do.
I feel this is fixable and you can bounce back easily. Meso has very high standards here and i think initially most vendors struggle at first with the high standards, high volume, and attention to details. On sst everyone would just skim right over these results and no solution would be given or offered.
I emailed you with my bitcoin address. I appreciate you keeping your word and offering to reimbursing me.
MuscleCandy
Subscriber
Just for the record: when it was brought to our attention for that batch of NPP, we never denied it contained guaiacol. I said to that customer that specific batch likely did contain it. We already brewed more and sent some out before we even knew he was getting it tested.
We didn’t need the results to admit our brewer used guaiacol. We were transparent the whole way through.
We’re glad it happened, though. We have used it as a learning lesson and it will only make us better. He won’t be using it in anything unless it’s already stated from now on.
Thank you! I agree with everything you’ve said. Without the rigorous testing there wouldn’t be enough data to see where to improve. Our main goal is to provide properly dosed, great gear and keep every customer happy.
poolshockguy
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American Muscle
New Member
I’m just curious now what products contain guaiacol. This wasn’t a cross contamination issue. It was clearly added by the brewer. Trace amounts wouldn’t saturate the oil with the smell guys are reporting. It would be better to just admit what all has it as I’m certain other testing will be performed.
mr.redpill
Member
Me at 8:58am: Literally sends dude BTC, first time order.
Meso at 9:00am: Guaiacol - comfirmed
The fuck man
This is why I haven't been on meso in since Trip crashed out
I'm selling this shit to the jr varsity football team
Meso at 9:00am: Guaiacol - comfirmed
The fuck man
This is why I haven't been on meso in since Trip crashed out
I'm selling this shit to the jr varsity football team
Relax man. I'm sure if you express your concern they'll be happy to put new batch labels on the vials...
Coffezilla
Member
Telegram labs are more reliable than fuckin meso at this point
Coffezilla
Member
Straight from the hip
No definitely not purposefully added. Guaiacol is not needed in Tren-A 100. It was due to Guaiacol remnants in the peristaltic pump pipes. It’s something even if there is a trace, it’ll be picked up.
I’m not sure what the point of adding Guaiacol on purpose in TrenA 100 is.. It holds easily with BB.
-New batch of Tren-A 100 (brewed in our new line) has been sent off for testing.
-Our only email is support@AXLELABS.net
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-Our only email is support@AXLELABS.net
-Bulk discount code for 10% off on orders >=$500 is BULK.
nightprowler7
Member
Axle reimbursed me for the guaiacol test, shipping, and the tren. I feel I've been made whole in this situation, and he kept his word on testing reimbursement. I appreciate that because so few people follow their word these days.
I can see this source potentially testing more than other sources and being very successful because of that.
Ordinarily, I'd be very upset about this situation, but I was out no money and he offered a solution to this not happening again.
I can see this source potentially testing more than other sources and being very successful because of that.
Ordinarily, I'd be very upset about this situation, but I was out no money and he offered a solution to this not happening again.
Sector
Member
Same he's replacing the tren for me and has made me whole, even though he didn't have to. The customer service has been very good, and the new setup will go a long way in preventing these kinds of issues in the future. Its a learning curve, and there does seem to be improvements being made. The constant testing is always good to see too.
I'm still sticking with axle
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