just want to put this out there. I still can't seem to start a new thread. I have been through all the features on the site and can't find the new thread option. I have been bulking for about three months now pretty hard. I don't want to add a lot more fat on top of current bf. If I still go for best lean bulk, with minimum surplus calories, what product is best for maximizing muscle gains while minimizing fat gains? I know oft3, clen, GH, and GW516. Based on your experiences, which would best modify my metabolism to allow me to reach this goal? Or if you know another thread, please point.
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when you say macros are used for calories, what exactly are you talking about.
the primary fuel for aerobic activity, which is the vast majority of your life, is fat. the primary fuel for anaerobic activity, is glycogen.
Sworder
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Lol he doesn't know how macros work let alone calories. Don't ask him those tough questions
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Tell that to DocD, he says dietary fat is stored as fat and that's it lol.
You keep showing your reading comprehension is on par with that of a 3year old. Notice where in my quote I say "dietary fat". Dietary fat is not used as energy. Stored fat is another topic. So congratulations on once again being Meso's most confused poster and the poster child for keeping kids in school
Difference between dietary fat and stored fat but one cannot expect a newbie to comprehend the difference
Let's not forget that insulin is an appetite suppressant, as Mr Dogma so eloquently put it protein can cause insulin secretion so if one wants to minimize insulin they'd also minimize protein (which is EXACTLY what body builders want to do 
), and even without insulin, HSL can act as a fat storage hormone. But no, insulin is he big bad devil
), and even without insulin, HSL can act as a fat storage hormone. But no, insulin is he big bad devil
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Lol you are straight retarded with diet info bud.It's obvious.... Pop tarts equal fat and basmati rice equals muscle
Coming from the guy who wants to know why male semen is leaking out of his ass? I'm deeply, terribly bothered
hey, docd, dietary fat is not only stored as fat. its used as energy.
Lol he doesn't know how macros work let alone calories. Don't ask him those tough questions
ok, so how do macros "work".
Stored fat is used as energy. I'm differentiating between stored fat and dietary fat.
so, dietary fat isn't used as energy?
if dietary fat only gets stored as sub-q fat, wont it eventually get used as energy?
Gojiraz
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Hope I don't come off as a dick saying this, but, I think you may need to research more on the nature of these compounds and read up on more human physio.
Clen, T3 are going to enhance lipolysis, but if you're in a calorie surplus you're not having much gene activation to initiate lipolysis to begin with. Hence it's pointless and counterproductive due to the negative effects.
To keep a bulk lean just eat at a lower surplus, foods with lower glycemic loads, higher meal frequency, exercise throughout the day.
Clen, T3 are going to enhance lipolysis, but if you're in a calorie surplus you're not having much gene activation to initiate lipolysis to begin with. Hence it's pointless and counterproductive due to the negative effects.
To keep a bulk lean just eat at a lower surplus, foods with lower glycemic loads, higher meal frequency, exercise throughout the day.
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