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Best ways to avoid Tren tanking my cardio?

Silentlemon1011 said:
That's probably the main reason I'll be trying Tren on my next run.

Some guys just react well to it and dont have issues.
I want to see ...
A) How I react
B) What all the hype Is about.

My wife also gets to make the call if I stop cycle or not lol.

If I start turning into a savage rapist, yeah, I'll shut it down lol
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Likewise on everything posted. I took sdrol and test p up to 700mg/ weekly for a month with no tudca (retard move, I know) and got no sides. Not even back pumps, acne or anything. So I kinda think I got off easy when it comes to sides for this kind of stuff, but every compound is different.
 
bambam333 said:
Cardarine and bronkaid help me but for the reasons above I rarely mess with tren anymore I just don’t have the energy to ride out a cycle I rather enjoy the cycle and feel good
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Damn, I forgot about Bronkaid. It definitely helped with my cardio. My breathing was very improved overall.
 
Have any of you tried Meldonium? It was the drug Anna Kournikova got popped for awhile back.

Broderick Chavez mentioned it before and you can actually get it on Amazon. Judging by certain baselines I have for cardio performance it’s allowed my heart bpm to drop at certain zones while my body weight increases.

It’s dirt cheap and easy to get ahold of so you might want to check it out.
 
slyfox115 said:
Have any of you tried Meldonium? It was the drug Anna Kournikova got popped for awhile back.

Broderick Chavez mentioned it before and you can actually get it on Amazon. Judging by certain baselines I have for cardio performance it’s allowed my heart bpm to drop at certain zones while my body weight increases.

It’s dirt cheap and easy to get ahold of so you might want to check it out.
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sounds interesting. Have you ever used it before I tried looking it up it seems to all come from Russia
 
bambam333 said:
Cardarine and bronkaid help me but for the reasons above I rarely mess with tren anymore I just don’t have the energy to ride out a cycle I rather enjoy the cycle and feel good
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This. GW makes a world of difference for me. If I ever run tren again I'll definitely be running GW with it
 
BigBaldBeardGuy said:
Don’t use it. There’s a lot of hype about Tren but the risk/reward really isn’t worth it unless you make your money on your physique. The side effects outweigh the benefits. Primary side effect being what it does to your bloodwork. Tren is not healthy at all.

Primo, DHB, EQ, NPP w/masteron, low test w/anavar or really any combination of those will achieve roughly the same results with a lot less unhealthy side effects.
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THIS!!!
 
slyfox115 said:
Have any of you tried Meldonium? It was the drug Anna Kournikova got popped for awhile back.

Broderick Chavez mentioned it before and you can actually get it on Amazon. Judging by certain baselines I have for cardio performance it’s allowed my heart bpm to drop at certain zones while my body weight increases.

It’s dirt cheap and easy to get ahold of so you might want to check it out.
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Shit. Ive never heard of that. After looking into it a little it looks like pro tennis players use it, and WADA has it banned, so it definitely works (despite them claiming there's "no evidence" to suggest it is a performance enhancer??? wtf) anyways, I'm definitely going to be looking into getting my hands on this.
 
slyfox115 said:
Have any of you tried Meldonium? It was the drug Anna Kournikova got popped for awhile back.

Broderick Chavez mentioned it before and you can actually get it on Amazon. Judging by certain baselines I have for cardio performance it’s allowed my heart bpm to drop at certain zones while my body weight increases.

It’s dirt cheap and easy to get ahold of so you might want to check it out.
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So you make steady cardio gains while carrying a higher body weight than normal? People seem to say it makes you lighter on your feet or makes you feel like you weigh less, which, if true would make sense why a tennis player would use it. What's your experience?
 
bambam333 said:
sounds interesting. Have you ever used it before I tried looking it up it seems to all come from Russia
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I found this from an article from Medical News Today:

"Meldonium is a fatty acid oxidation inhibitor, and it is now principally used for heart conditions, such as angina, heart attack, heart failure, and others. The medication works by altering pathways for carnitine, a nutrient involved in fat metabolism."

"According to the designer of the drug, Ivar Kalvins, chair of the scientific board of the Latvian Institute of Organic Synthesis, meldonium was created to increase the capacity of the body to carry oxygen.

Prior to the use of meldonium for cardiac health issues, the company shipped large quantities of the drug to Soviet troops in Afghanistan between 1979 and 1989.

Due to the mountainous terrain of Afghanistan, Soviet soldiers would take meldonium to increase their endurance in the oxygen-reduced air while carrying large backpacks."

A study in 2005 found that meldonium, in combination with an angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitor called lisinopril, improved exercise capability and peripheral circulation for individuals with chronic heart failure.

A Chinese study group tested meldonium for its efficacy in treating acute ischemic stroke, finding it to be as effective as cinepazide, a vasodilator that people in China commonly use to treat stroke.

In some countries, people use meldonium to treat problems with circulation in the brain. Some people report that the drug elevates mood and improves motor symptoms, dizziness, and nausea.

A study published in Drug Testing and Analysis in December 2015 summarized the following about meldonium:

“[It] demonstrates an increase in endurance performance of athletes, improved rehabilitation after exercise, protection against stress, and enhanced activations of central nervous system (CNS) functions.”

MyCruisIsYourBlast said:
So you make steady cardio gains while carrying a higher body weight than normal? People seem to say it makes you lighter on your feet or makes you feel like you weigh less, which, if true would make sense why a tennis player would use it. What's your experience?
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I don't necessarily feel lighter on my feet but it doesn't seem like I am getting any heavier (which I am). The biggest thing for me is being able to have a lower heart rate at a given cardio zone. Like for instance.....I can run for 1.5 hours @ 215lb around a 10:00/min per mile pace and stay at 130 - 140 bpm. Well with a couple weeks of Meldonium I am around 225lb and my heart rate at that zone is consistently in at 120-125bpm.

I noticed I am able to recover faster between sets in my higher volume weight training too but I can't say if it's directly the meldonium or the increased capacity I am getting from my cardio training.

Either way I agree with you though, if athletes were being banned for it and WADA has taken notice chances are there is an actual affect of the drug.
 
When I took Tren it didn't mess with my cardio too terribly. I also took cardarine with it. Also was at 50 mg eod
 
Silentlemon1011 said:
Yeah
If Cardio tanks when I do my first Tren run... I'll just cut the Tren out.

Simple
Not worth the sides
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That being said @MisterSuperGod
I am taking precautions

Cardarine
Low dose Albuterol (The cycle will be a cut)
Epithalon for sleep (In terms of plaque buildup, it seems to literally be the "AntiTren"
Low dose Test (125mg) to prevent estrogenic reaction
High dose B complex for kidneys

Hopefully this will all counteract the effects.

But if I even catch a whiff of cardio sides, or if I start jerking off to tranny porn... I'm fucking done lol.

Also avoiding Caber or Prami usage.
I really think it's a fucking awful idea to fuck with Dopamine receptors and I'm willing to bet that they can cause larger long term issues than the Tren does is a healthy Male.
Especially long term sexual dysfunction.

Sure, I'll have some pharma Caber on hand, but I wint be dosing it.
And realistically if my Prolactin is spiking hard, the sides will most likely have made me end the run before Caber is required.
 
Silentlemon1011 said:
That being said @MisterSuperGod
I am taking precautions

Cardarine
Low dose Albuterol (The cycle will be a cut)
Epithalon for sleep (In terms of plaque buildup, it seems to literally be the "AntiTren"
Low dose Test (125mg) to prevent estrogenic reaction
High dose B complex for kidneys

Hopefully this will all counteract the effects.

But if I even catch a whiff of cardio sides, or if I start jerking off to tranny porn... I'm fucking done lol.

Also avoiding Caber or Prami usage.
I really think it's a fucking awful idea to fuck with Dopamine receptors and I'm willing to bet that they can cause larger long term issues than the Tren does is a healthy Male.
Especially long term sexual dysfunction.

Sure, I'll have some pharma Caber on hand, but I wint be dosing it.
And realistically if my Prolactin is spiking hard, the sides will most likely have made me end the run before Caber is required.
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how is P5P for prolactin control?
 
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