Beware of Dylan Gemelli and certain associates/FRAUD

I don't know about Dylan. But the following UGL's that are mentioned at evo, robolics, BWL are legit...I've tried both and did labs during and at the end of cycles and the numbers were impressive. I only bring this up because someone mentioned these to UGL's in the beginning of this topic.
 
I don't know about Dylan. But the following UGL's that are mentioned at evo, robolics, BWL are legit...I've tried both and did labs during and at the end of cycles and the numbers were impressive. I only bring this up because someone mentioned these to UGL's in the beginning of this topic.

They must be "legit" if you're willing to waste your very first Meso post just to spread the good word. :rolleyes:
 
Like I said someone mentioned those labs earlier in the topic that's why I posted. Just sharing my experience can't speak for anyone else.
 
Like I said someone mentioned those labs earlier in the topic that's why I posted. Just sharing my experience can't speak for anyone else.

That's fine and they might have been legit when you used them but things change quickly in the ugl market. Experience has shown the overwhelming number of new posters who come to Meso using terms like 'legit' to describe a particular source tend to be compensated by the source. Doing that here is considered very bad form.
 
My apologies then. Bad choice of words. Let's just say their products seemed to work for me based on labs done during and after the cycle. Don't want to disrespect or offend anyone. Thanks.
 
I don't know about Dylan. But the following UGL's that are mentioned at evo, robolics, BWL are legit...I've tried both and did labs during and at the end of cycles and the numbers were impressive. I only bring this up because someone mentioned these to UGL's in the beginning of this topic.

Not to stir the pot. But what gets me is this thread is old. So you had to come here, search for this thread, then add your input. But youre not shilling.
 
i searched Robolics and this thread came up and I chimed in after someone asked on this thread if Robolics and BWL were righteous. No big deal. Just wanted to share my experience. No reason to be so judge mental. Doesn't matter to me if anyone uses those labs or not. Someone asked about them.
 
This thread has been so enlightening. Thank you all. You have effectively reached at least one person with your information and potentially preserved my health.

My story begins as I think I'd reached a natural plateau. Seeking an alternative to AAS I selected SARMS after I too was drawn in by the YouTube videos with seemingly good information. I fancy myself not a complete idiot so I followed up on this information by reading the EVO site which provided simplistic explainations for complicated things. That was the first alarm. I'm a complete noob but I'm leery of things that oversimplify complex physical and chemical reactions. There's a reason these things take years to learn; if it was so easy a cave man could do it everyone would.

I digress. My primary concern was not getting shut down and in one video Dylan states this is of great importance too. He urges that anyone completing a 12 week S4 cycle complete a mini pct of HCGGenerate (by N2BM) or Unleashed. I look at the date of the YouTube video and it's a couple of months ago. So I go off to read about whether S4 and S4 only is suppressive. I see mixed opinions. One forum has tons of people that think it's not suppressive at all and don't do a PCT. Others state by its very mechanism alone it's suppressive and a PCT needs to be done to risk not getting completely shut down. So I was confused and didn't know the truth. Each side seemed valid.

So I emailed Dylan to confirm information. The email bounced back. Had I gotten the email wrong? His name @ N2BM. But he wasn't with N2BM anymore or at least wasn't supporting and advertising their products anymore. Where did this leave me for a PCT. I went back to EVO website and info on him was sparse. In all his articles he is advertising SARM1 as the product to buy in your interested category. I search EVO videos (on YT) and he didn't appear as much. It was like he'd disassociated himself with them as well. So I search his name in YouTube and I get a video where he comments that contacting him by email had become to difficult to answer everyones question we should all join and comment on his new forum, Adrenline Rush.

So I go there. There I see several boards where people ask questions about cycles and PCT. Many of the ones I read were people who commented they'd bought SARMS1 SARMS and in his response Dylan would say they were a shit product. He's recommend Pure Essence as having the highest quality SARMS he'd seen. Before posting I went to Pure Essence and saw S4 with a with a description and a label next to it that said "Dylan Gemelli Recommended". This was the final alarm. I pieced together the guy has probably been with N2BM had a falling out, been with EVO had a falling out, and finally had enough "rep" to go at it alone with Adrenline Rush with sponsorship from Pure Essence.

Then I read the 12 pages of this post and it all made sense. So now I'm sitting in my living room wondering if I need to take a PCT (not knowing what that includes now - something something clomid) after taking ONLY TWO DAYS of Pure Essence S4. You know how this tale ends. I asked Dylan (on AR) and he advised GW (from Pure Essence) and Clomid which he said Pure Essence would soon be selling as well. After all this, I think I need a second opinion doc. Board, please advise.

At the end of the day, I knew 1) SARMS are not proven like AAS but didn't know how to administer safely to prevent organ damage and 2) Vision issues are not worth the small amount of gains that might be obtained - even if temporary. In closing, I know about S4 or its effect on suppression as I did when I began and now have added questions about the quality of the Pure Essence product I bought. Seems like a $80 lesson to me. A fool and his money...
 
This thread has been so enlightening. Thank you all. You have effectively reached at least one person with your information and potentially preserved my health.

My story begins as I think I'd reached a natural plateau. Seeking an alternative to AAS I selected SARMS after I too was drawn in by the YouTube videos with seemingly good information. I fancy myself not a complete idiot so I followed up on this information by reading the EVO site which provided simplistic explainations for complicated things. That was the first alarm. I'm a complete noob but I'm leery of things that oversimplify complex physical and chemical reactions. There's a reason these things take years to learn; if it was so easy a cave man could do it everyone would.

I digress. My primary concern was not getting shut down and in one video Dylan states this is of great importance too. He urges that anyone completing a 12 week S4 cycle complete a mini pct of HCGGenerate (by N2BM) or Unleashed. I look at the date of the YouTube video and it's a couple of months ago. So I go off to read about whether S4 and S4 only is suppressive. I see mixed opinions. One forum has tons of people that think it's not suppressive at all and don't do a PCT. Others state by its very mechanism alone it's suppressive and a PCT needs to be done to risk not getting completely shut down. So I was confused and didn't know the truth. Each side seemed valid.

So I emailed Dylan to confirm information. The email bounced back. Had I gotten the email wrong? His name @ N2BM. But he wasn't with N2BM anymore or at least wasn't supporting and advertising their products anymore. Where did this leave me for a PCT. I went back to EVO website and info on him was sparse. In all his articles he is advertising SARM1 as the product to buy in your interested category. I search EVO videos (on YT) and he didn't appear as much. It was like he'd disassociated himself with them as well. So I search his name in YouTube and I get a video where he comments that contacting him by email had become to difficult to answer everyones question we should all join and comment on his new forum, Adrenline Rush.

So I go there. There I see several boards where people ask questions about cycles and PCT. Many of the ones I read were people who commented they'd bought SARMS1 SARMS and in his response Dylan would say they were a shit product. He's recommend Pure Essence as having the highest quality SARMS he'd seen. Before posting I went to Pure Essence and saw S4 with a with a description and a label next to it that said "Dylan Gemelli Recommended". This was the final alarm. I pieced together the guy has probably been with N2BM had a falling out, been with EVO had a falling out, and finally had enough "rep" to go at it alone with Adrenline Rush with sponsorship from Pure Essence.

Then I read the 12 pages of this post and it all made sense. So now I'm sitting in my living room wondering if I need to take a PCT (not knowing what that includes now - something something clomid) after taking ONLY TWO DAYS of Pure Essence S4. You know how this tale ends. I asked Dylan (on AR) and he advised GW (from Pure Essence) and Clomid which he said Pure Essence would soon be selling as well. After all this, I think I need a second opinion doc. Board, please advise.

At the end of the day, I knew 1) SARMS are not proven like AAS but didn't know how to administer safely to prevent organ damage and 2) Vision issues are not worth the small amount of gains that might be obtained - even if temporary. In closing, I know about S4 or its effect on suppression as I did when I began and now have added questions about the quality of the Pure Essence product I bought. Seems like a $80 lesson to me. A fool and his money...

You should be good if you've only taken it for 2 days.

Stay far away from SARMS
And Dylan... Far.
 
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