Bionic Labs - U.S.

[BionicLabs]

Well sir,

You should have probably done a bit more reading in the threads of those who have became successful here.

Paying for testing is an investment in your own business, not unlike advertising. You've been in business for almost a year and offer credit for testing, correct?

Has none of your customers taken you up on it?

I'll go ahead and throw you a bone. I would offer a solid credit of at least $300-400 per blind test for the first few customers, maybe 5, to send out blind tests and post them in your thread.

Talk is cheap. This sort of investment in your business is how to do well at meso. You need to have testing and having customers post up tests is going to be your best ROI. Maybe after the first 5, lower the testing credit to $200-300. Most guys won't test because of the slight risk involved and the cost isn't cheap, but a few might if you make it worth their time.

You're welcome, bud.

You are very polite sir. We do appreciate your insight.

 

[Test_Subject]

You are very polite sir. We do appreciate your insight.

“… but we won’t actually do what you suggested.”

Not having raw testing done at the bare minimum reeks of “good enough” mentality. How do you exist as a lab for an entire year and not once get your raws tested?

What happens when your EQ raws come in at 82% and you only accounted for a 10% impurity? You’re flying by the seat of your pants. Without knowing the purity of your raw materials you can’t make accurately dosed final products except by pure dumb luck.

 

[BionicLabs]

“… but we won’t actually do what you suggested.”

Not having raw testing done at the bare minimum reeks of “good enough” mentality. How do you exist as a lab for an entire year and not once get your raws tested?

What happens when your EQ raws come in at 82% and you only accounted for a 10% impurity? You’re flying by the seat of your pants. Without knowing the purity of your raw materials you can’t make accurately dosed final products except by pure dumb luck.

You are making assumptions. We do not make assumptions here. You don’t exist for an entire year without having your raws tested. My point exactly thank you.

 

[Test_Subject]

You are making assumptions. We do not make assumptions here. You don’t exist for an entire year without having your raws tested. My point exactly thank you.

So post up the results.

The phrase “put up or shut up” comes to mind.

 

[Freakmidd]

i don’t think I insulted anyone brother. Just responded in a way that you call insulting. My point is post count has shit to do with credibility. I have a personal meso account as well and my post count is very low but been on meso for many years. I’m not a poster I’m a reader. That shouldn’t mean I’m not credible. That’s my only point I didn’t think it was insulting nor was I trying to be insulting.

All those "years" of reading here and you somehow missed every source intro?

Testing is the very first thing that EVERY source is asked to provide, and is the most important piece to any (successful) source's introduction.

 

[Freakmidd]

You are making assumptions. We do not make assumptions here. You don’t exist for an entire year without having your raws tested. My point exactly thank you.

You're making the "assumption" that anyone actually believes you've been around for "an entire year".

After all you have not been here.

So post up the results.

The phrase “put up or shut up” comes to mind.

You really should post those test results.. If you actually have any..

 

[BionicLabs]

You're making the "assumption" that anyone actually believes you've been around for "an entire year".

After all you have not been here.



You really should post those test results.. If you actually have any..

Im not making any assumptions or trying trying to convince anyone of anything. I know that we’ve been around a while now , you may not know that but I do and again , I’m not trying to convince you or anyone else. Thank you.

 

[Gbro]

Im not making any assumptions or trying trying to convince anyone of anything. I know that we’ve been around a while now , you may not know that but I do and again , I’m not trying to convince you or anyone else. Thank you.

You're not trying to convince us that your gear is tested? That's good, because you definitely weren't convincing anyone.

 

[Obscured78]

Since you were asked multiple times and still haven’t answered I assume you do not test your raws or finished product. You lose a ton more business by not doing that than the money you save not doing testing.

 

[BionicLabs]

We do test our raws and finished oils. I do not however use Jano and having documentation does not work the same where I have them tested. I have them tested in the United States. We will be happy to give store credit to anyone that wants to send to have tested. Double store credit for whatever it costs you to have tested, and double your money back in a refund if the results are less than perfect. Would any UGL really go through the expenses of building a lab , buying raws , all other ingredients , vials , labels , caps , laminar flow hood , autoclave , magnetic stirrer/hotplate , etc etc etc and risk putting out crap and wasting all of their money over a simple $200-$300 test ? I’m sure there are labs that have done this and they probably do not get away with it. But I don’t believe there are many labs that wouldn’t test their raws, if they don’t they’re exposed and they’re idiots . We’re working on getting what you all asked for, not the testing , but the results/documentation. If anyone wants to send our stuff off great - it won’t be a waste of your money or time and you will be compensated.

 

[kinistone]

Strong 7,048th post. Not everyone has time to sit on a steroid forum to leave 7,048 posts. How credible are you for having 7,048 posts when this is the kinda comments you leave “Strong first post ...”. I can make that same post 7,038 more times and I’ll be credible. Thanks.

You will tuck your tail between your legs and run out of here. Anyone want to bet on when it will be?

 

[B Ware]

What a shit show. The biggest requirement of sourcing here is testing. This guy insinuated that he was just having trouble uploading them even though he had no trouble with his gear pics. Now it turns out he was lying and stalling like we’d forget or something. Fuck off with your bioshit

 

[skinnyprimate]

Self inflicted wounds...

Just post your lab tests and this whole conversation changes...or you can keep ignoring our requests and pound sand and sell your snake oil somewhere else.

 

[skinnyprimate]

We do test our raws and finished oils. I do not however use Jano and having documentation does not work the same where I have them tested. I have them tested in the United States. We will be happy to give store credit to anyone that wants to send to have tested. Double store credit for whatever it costs you to have tested, and double your money back in a refund if the results are less than perfect. Would any UGL really go through the expenses of building a lab , buying raws , all other ingredients , vials , labels , caps , laminar flow hood , autoclave , magnetic stirrer/hotplate , etc etc etc and risk putting out crap and wasting all of their money over a simple $200-$300 test ? I’m sure there are labs that have done this and they probably do not get away with it. But I don’t believe there are many labs that wouldn’t test their raws, if they don’t they’re exposed and they’re idiots . We’re working on getting what you all asked for, not the testing , but the results/documentation. If anyone wants to send our stuff off great - it won’t be a waste of your money or time and you will be compensated.

Can't provide proof you have actually tested your products. Gotcha.

I guess it would be too much to ask for a picture of said lab equipment you "have". Nevermind. I will just take you for your word.

 

[MindlessWork]

You will tuck your tail between your legs and run out of here. Anyone want to bet on when it will be?

I would bet NOW.

 

[BionicLabs]

Can't provide proof you have actually tested your products. Gotcha.

I guess it would be too much to ask for a picture of said lab equipment you "have". Nevermind. I will just take you for your word.

i did not say I can not provide proof. I said I’m working on it. And for the lab sure I will post some pictures and I think you all will be pleasantly surprised. But I am sure the demands won’t stop there. What’s gonna be next - send free shit to all of you.

I do not live at the same location as the lab as someone thought earlier. I work , bottle cap and label 100 bottles at a time. And I don’t go to where the lab is located unless I have to which is a 45 min drive. When I go there I will be glad to take pictures. I will make time ASAP

 

[BionicLabs]

I would bet NOW.

Not gonna happen. Y’all don’t know what I know about Bionic Labs. You will soon enough just relax.

 

[BionicLabs]

What is it that you guys want in the pic of the lab ? A piece of crumbled up paper that says meso or what? I don’t recall

 

[trl01]

im Biointerested

 

[skinnyprimate]

i did not say I can not provide proof. I said I’m working on it. And for the lab sure I will post some pictures and I think you all will be pleasantly surprised. But I am sure the demands won’t stop there. What’s gonna be next - send free shit to all of you.

I do not live at the same location as the lab as someone thought earlier. I work , bottle cap and label 100 bottles at a time. And I don’t go to where the lab is located unless I have to which is a 45 min drive. When I go there I will be glad to take pictures. I will make time ASAP

Free gear is a no-no. No one should ever ask for that. Or to give you a review in exchange for gear.

We are simple but demanding. We want to see proof of lab testing, blind testing credit offered to members and proof you aren't making your product in a bathtub.

Honestly, I don't think that's too much to ask for.