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[Brewly]

Brewly, I’m one of the ones that doesn’t think your idea is too awful and for sure has some uses though it may not fit the ideals of meso.. however I think that in trying to answer every question and cover all bases, you’re over reaching a little bit, like not being able to write a review to a vendor for a product that you just bought but can’t can’t review till you’ve bought another product from a separate vendor just doesn’t make any sense though I do see that the intent is to cover misuse and review fraud I think you’ll have to find other ways of doing that.

Totally agree! No reason to solve a problem that doesn't exist yet. Just laying out our plan of attack if the threat in question does become a problem.

special treatment mby? or like i said its a new account...

"ching chong fuck" boom banned for a week

Banned for merely reciting an ancient Chinese proverb? Damn.

 

[Cashton]

Totally agree! No reason to solve a problem that doesn't exist yet. Just laying out our plan of attack if the threat in question does become a problem.



Banned for merely reciting an ancient Chinese proverb? Damn.

Appreciate the reply, but I think that your plan of attack needs some work.

 

[Obscured78]

I prefer emailing order to source; him giving btc address; me send funds; me get order in a week or so. No middle man. No nonsense. Has always worked. If not broke, why fix it. And don’t say it’s not about fixing it, it’s about improving it. This is not an improvement. I’m sick of seeing this thread. Can we all agree to let it die?

 

[Brewly]

I prefer emailing order to source; him giving btc address; me send funds; me get order in a week or so. No middle man. No nonsense. Has always worked. If not broke, why fix it. And don’t say it’s not about fixing it, it’s about improving it. This is not an improvement. I’m sick of seeing this thread. Can we all agree to let it die?

Fair enough, nothing wrong with that. And, certainly if the idea doesn't gain interest, the thread will naturally fade away.

If you look around today, quite a few sources already sell on their own websites.

Why not have an accessible, one stop shop that's securely hosted, protects customer funds, and serves as a place to post reviews that can't be edited/deleted by sources since they don't run the site?

As far as forums & emails. That's involving 2 different parties to make orders and reviews happen + those email providers comply with government requests.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Fair enough, nothing wrong with that. And, certainly if the idea doesn't gain interest, the thread will naturally fade away.

If you look around today, quite a few sources already sell on their own websites.

Why not have an accessible, one stop shop that's securely hosted, protects customer funds, and serves as a place to post reviews that can't be edited/deleted by sources since they don't run the site?

As far as forums & emails. That's involving 2 different parties to make orders and reviews happen + those email providers comply with government requests.

Well the threads not going to die if you keep bumping it Brewly.

those email providers comply with government requests [emoji849]

Can you give me ONE instance of an individual that got busted using ProtonMail to order a couple of vials? Let’s not go and make up mythical problems where there are none to sell our dumb services. We’re not dealing in bushels of coke or AKs and RPGs or Russian women in shipping containers.

And um, we kinda already have a forum where reviews aren’t edited/deleted by the sources.

The only thing you offer is the convenience and ability to order from two or more unknown, unvetted sources in one Bitcoin transaction. That’s it.

As far as getting funding back, I already laid out the type of scenario we experienced here. Floaters found in vials, and in some instances affecting vials that were bought over a 6 month period. You indicated that it would be difficult to hold funds for that length of time. So the only protection for funds that you offer is that of an exit scam. Wow. Network fee plus Brewly 5% fee (which I know gets charged to the source but let’s see, who do you think is ultimately paying that? Us.)

Get some reviews on your site so we know a little bit more about your unvetted vendors and come back to bump your thread in 4 months. We’re ok not being on the cutting edge revolutionary future wave of drug-dealing.

 

[Brewly]

Well the threads not going to die if you keep bumping it Brewly.

those email providers comply with government requests [emoji849]

Can you give me ONE instance of an individual that got busted using ProtonMail to order a couple of vials? Let’s not go and make up mythical problems where there are none to sell our dumb services. We’re not dealing in bushels of coke or AKs and RPGs or Russian women in shipping containers.

And um, we kinda already have a forum where reviews aren’t edited/deleted by the sources.

The only thing you offer is the convenience and ability to order from two or more unknown, unvetted sources in one Bitcoin transaction. That’s it.

As far as getting funding back, I already laid out the type of scenario we experienced here. Floaters found in vials, and in some instances affecting vials that were bought over a 6 month period. You indicated that it would be difficult to hold funds for that length of time. So the only protection for funds that you offer is that of an exit scam. Wow. Network fee plus Brewly 5% fee (which I know gets charged to the source but let’s see, who do you think is ultimately paying that? Us.)

Get some reviews on your site so we know a little bit more about your unvetted vendors and come back to bump your thread in 4 months. We’re ok not being on the cutting edge revolutionary future wave of drug-dealing.

Well you have my word that I will not post in this thread if I'm not replying to someone or announcing some big site update.

With regards to your point about Protonmail, there's been a lot of discussion in this thread about LE attention and safety of data. So that's why I bring up the points about Protonmail complying with government requests. Frankly, I agree with you. I don't think the threat is as large as some people see it. Regardless, we encrypt shipping information and auto-delete it upon the order being shipped out.

To the point about funds, you could retroactively get your funds back unless the vendor vanished. In the case of an exit scam like you have described previously, it would suck, but I'm sure we could either cover it out of pocket or have a vendor earn good will by offering to cover/provide reduced pricing for affected customers.

Anyone that visits our site sees big name, vetted vendors as the first thing they see. Buy from them until you're otherwise comfortable with buying from others, same as Meso. We'll be rolling out the labs page update this week. Every vendor's storefront will have a convenient and organized section displaying all labs just one click away from their products.

I will be posting when that is up, and I look forward to your feedback on it.

 

[shackleford]

So meso is a community that works together to keep eachother safe. especially when it comes to unknown sources, or even well known sources when there is an issue. Its the public nature of the forum that keeps accountability. Your website promotes a messenger type service, which can certainly have its place, but its not the same. And im not sure if each of your sources will have a thread in your forum for customer to communicate. Being limited to one on one communication isnt a benefit. Its almost seems like a divide and conquer tactic for the sources, and takes away from our strength in numbers.

Brewly, I'm only making an observation here, not demanding a solution.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Anyone that visits our site sees big name, vetted vendors as the first thing they see. Buy from them until you're otherwise comfortable with buying from others, same as Meso.

The same ones that they can order directly from HERE or on SST and save network fees and pay less per vial. Why go to your site for these “big guys”?

 

[Brewly]

So meso is a community that works together to keep eachother safe. especially when it comes to unknown sources, or even well known sources when there is an issue. Its the public nature of the forum that keeps accountability. Your website promotes a messenger type service, which can certainly have its place, but its not the same. And im not sure if each of your sources will have a thread in your forum for customer to communicate. Being limited to one on one communication isnt a benefit. Its almost seems like a divide and conquer tactic for the sources, and takes away from our strength in numbers.

Brewly, I'm only making an observation here, not demanding a solution.

No worries! It's my duty to find a solution.

Surely we can agree that things get a little disorganized on a forum, right? You often have to search through many pages to locate pastebins, reviews, labs, etc. And, you don't have to search far on Meso to find reviews left by noobie accounts (hell in this own thread even).

There's nothing wrong with being a noobie, but it does sometimes beg the question, is this a real customer? How can you know if they really ordered or not? That's not an issue on a marketplace cause we know if you ordered, and you can't leave a review unless you have ordered.

I think there is value in a more organized and objective system, don't you? A system that directly holds vendors accountable by affecting their ranking/visibility, funds, and access to the site (if they are suspended due to severe misuse of platform).

The same ones that they can order directly from HERE or on SST and save network fees and pay less per vial. Why go to your site for these “big guys”?

Same prices per vial for 90% of our vendors, as we've been over.

 

[shackleford]

No worries! It's my duty to find a solution.

Surely we can agree that things get a little disorganized on a forum, right? You often have to search through many pages to locate pastebins, reviews, labs, etc. And, you don't have to search far on Meso to find reviews left by noobie accounts (hell in this own thread even).

There's nothing wrong with being a noobie, but it does sometimes beg the question, is this a real customer? How can you know if they really ordered or not? That's not an issue on a marketplace cause we know if you ordered, and you can't leave a review unless you have ordered.

I think there is value in a more organized and objective system, don't you? A system that directly holds vendors accountable by affecting their ranking/visibility, funds, and access to the site (if they are suspended due to severe misuse of platform).



Same prices per vial for 90% of our vendors, as we've been over.

You literally didnt address my concern at all.

again.

 

[Brewly]

You literally didnt address my concern at all.

again.

My mistake, let me try again. I thought the core of your concern was keeping members safe and keeping vendors accountable.

With regards to public communication, there's public reviews, a forum, and other forums. It's not like using Brewly means you can't also use another forum if you so please. But like I said we have our own forum + reviews are public.

My apologies, again if I mistook your comment.

 

[shackleford]

My mistake, let me try again. I thought the core of your concern was keeping members safe and keeping vendors accountable.

With regards to public communication, there's public reviews, a forum, and other forums. It's not like using Brewly means you can't also use another forum if you so please. But like I said we have our own forum + reviews are public.

My apologies, again if I mistook your comment.

my concern is the loss of cohesiveness among site users.

Reading comprehension, you should try it.

 

[shackleford]

i'm trying not to be a dick but i cant tell if youre fuckin with me or really just that dense...

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Same prices per vial for 90% of our vendors, as we've been over.

I don’t care about Dragon, he’s part owner so of course his prices will be the same.

I also don’t know what the small-time unvetted labs charged before your site or if they were even in business.

I’m looking at Colonial and I’m looking at PharmaHGH both are cheaper on SST.

That’s two out of your top 6.

PLUS. Nobody else charges your bullshit network fees.

Oh and the Bitcoin market is REAL hot right now so don’t think you’re fooling anyone on how you’re making your money right now! Fucking A, holding your vendors coins for December made you guys 56% more.[emoji1787] God bless you for being able to do that!

Are you going to piss and moan and charge additional fees when Bitcoin drops?

 

[Brewly]

I don’t care about Dragon, he’s part owner so of course his prices will be the same.

I also don’t know what the small-time unvetted labs charged before your site or if they were even in business.

I’m looking at Colonial and I’m looking at PharmaHGH both are cheaper on SST.

That’s two out of your top 6.

PLUS. Nobody else charges your bullshit network fees.

Oh and the Bitcoin market is REAL hot right now so don’t think you’re fooling anyone on how you’re making your money right now! Fucking A, holding your vendors coins for December made you guys 56% more.[emoji1787] God bless you for being able to do that!

Are you going to piss and moan and charge additional fees when Bitcoin drops?

Taking a quick look at PharmaHGH, I can confirm that he's offering free shipping and incorporating it by slightly raising prices. We oughta add some kind of icon/indicator for free shipping to.

Instead of paying 25 + 10 (35) for Test-E
You're paying 27 for a vial of Test-E

A pretty dramatic savings.

Vendor balances are stored in BTC, not USD. If you made $100 in sales and Bitcoin rises 50%, you get $150 in payout

 

[mugzy]

I reiterate once again the site has no value without a value proposition. The site cannot work without sources.

What’s in it for the source?
How many unique visitors does your website get per day?
What keywords is your website ranking in google for?

Mind you I know the answer to these questions. There is no value in a site with no traffic. There is no value in the concept for a steroid supplier.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Taking a quick look at PharmaHGH, I can confirm that he's offering free shipping and incorporating it by slightly raising prices. We oughta add some kind of icon/indicator for free shipping to.

Instead of paying 25 + 10 (35) for Test-E
You're paying 27 for a vial of Test-E

A pretty dramatic savings.

Vendor balances are stored in BTC, not USD. If you made $100 in sales and Bitcoin rises 50%, you get $150 in payout

Ok, a dramatic savings but PharmaHGH is also offering a B4G1 sale on SST. How does your site reflect sales??

And MESO requires an Intro for vendors. SST requires an Intro for their vendors. Can you have a vendor introduction? I have no clue about some of those other labs you have.

 

[Brewly]

I reiterate once again the site has no value without a value proposition. The site cannot work without sources.

What’s in it for the source?
How many unique visitors does your website get per day?
What keywords is your website ranking in google for?

Mind you I know the answer to these questions. There is no value in a site with no traffic. There is no value in the concept for a steroid supplier.

Takes time my friend. Site is 6 weeks old. We have plenty of sources at this point. The key now is improving, polishing, and waiting. Every project has to start somewhere.

Ok, a dramatic savings but PharmaHGH is also offering a B4G1 sale on SST. How does your site reflect sales??

And MESO requires an Intro for vendors. SST requires an Intro for their vendors. Can you have a vendor introduction? I have no clue about some of those other labs you have.

We have coupon codes that vendors can create. Alternatively you could get creative and put "BOGO" in your product title if you want to do some more intricate promos. Later on we'll add better support for more complex promotions if there is a demand for it.

Currently storefronts have an about, FAQ, and soon Labs page so you can get to know a source better. I thank you for pushing this, by the way. It's the right move. Not only will we be adding the labs page, this week, but we'll make it a requirement to at least have lab/testing pics publicly available.

 

[Sp2.0]

I reiterate once again the site has no value without a value proposition. The site cannot work without sources.

What’s in it for the source?
How many unique visitors does your website get per day?
What keywords is your website ranking in google for?

Mind you I know the answer to these questions. There is no value in a site with no traffic. There is no value in the concept for a steroid supplier.

That's the whole purpose for this thread and him bumping it or him jumping into to other threads. He's only trying to direct traffic to his start up. The fact that this is even being entertained here is special in itself. Hes not a source and offers nothing to meso or its members but he's got a thread like a potential source would simply for his personal gain.

Spare me the humanitarian of the year garbage of looking out for the community.its free advertising and nothing more.

 

[Brewly]

That's the whole purpose for this thread and him bumping it or him jumping into to other threads. He's only trying to direct traffic to his start up. The fact that this is even being entertained here is special in itself. Hes not a source and offers nothing to meso or its members but he's got a thread like a potential source would simply for his personal gain.

Spare me the humanitarian of the year garbage of looking out for the community.its free advertising and nothing more.

Not free man! Check my gold banner and the titties I posted. You know hookers ain't cheap.