Bulking up blast

[Live_Evil]

Why full body? Just do DC training. Full body that intense 3x a week will fry your cns. If you’re killing yourself on the first couple body parts the rest will suffer because you won’t have the energy to train them hard enough

I know we disagree on many training principles, but there's no way he's going to fry his CNS doing that, lol. You have guys attempting PR's on the most compound lifts in existence, every day of the week, and they're the best Olympic weightlifters in the world. CNS overtraining is almost entirely mythological BS for the average lifter. It's almost impossible for your average lifter to hit the CNS harder than competitive athletes. And those same competitive athletes aren't even thinking about "intensity", nevermind thinking it's actually intense to lift like a bodybuilder and target a single muscle group at a time.

I'm sorry but curling until your biceps are dead isn't even intense. You could literally destroy your biceps and connective tissue from overtraining, and your CNS wouldn't be impacted in any manner. I doubt anyone on this forum has ever been remotely close to overtraining the CNS.

 

[rfan2020]

I mean, that will work, but if you’re shifting work around to increase the frequency it’s not really a true bro split, anymore.

IMO, the best split for a beginner is upper/lower. It allows for good frequency while also maintaining intensity. It’s also a super easy split to program.

true, more of a modified bro split. this is why I like them, you can add some frequency for parts you want to target.

I don't like U/L because hitting your entire upper in one day, if you train intensity and a decent volume, whatever you train last is going to suffer.

Hit chest, back, traps, delts, arms, you'll be going through the motions by the time you hit arms. Probably more than 20 sets per workout if you hit upper 2x a week and have adequate volume.

 

[Gbro]

...I don't like U/L because hitting your entire upper in one day, if you train intensity and a decent volume, whatever you train last is going to suffer.....

First time you said something that I agree with. I might have to start insulting @Cdave.aol !

 

[Gbro]

First time you said something that I agree with. I might have to start insulting @Cdave.aol !

When you read that outloud, imagine me whispering it in your ear with my deep sexy voice.

 

[NLM36]

I know we disagree on many training principles, but there's no way he's going to fry his CNS doing that, lol. You have guys attempting PR's on the most compound lifts in existence, every day of the week, and they're the best Olympic weightlifters in the world. CNS overtraining is almost entirely mythological BS for the average lifter. It's almost impossible for your average lifter to hit the CNS harder than competitive athletes. And those same competitive athletes aren't even thinking about "intensity", nevermind thinking it's actually intense to lift like a bodybuilder and target a single muscle group at a time.

I'm sorry but curling until your biceps are dead isn't even intense. You could literally destroy your biceps and connective tissue from overtraining, and your CNS wouldn't be impacted in any manner. I doubt anyone on this forum has ever been remotely close to overtraining the CNS.

It’s accumulative. You say a lot of nonsense. Those guys are the top tier genetic elite. Don’t compare the average or below average to them. When you get to that level it’s really just recover or fail, and more fail than recover. Did you honestly think you were somewhere in your brain making any sort of half not retarded point? I’ve wrecked myself in about 7 weeks before and was on the verge of getting rhabdo. I was destroyed. I was only doing DC training. I don’t have great recovery, never have.

 

[rfan2020]

First time you said something that I agree with. I might have to start insulting @Cdave.aol !

he can't be insulted, he already has. been established as the stupid kid who will just keep asking basic questions but will never stick a pin in himself lol.

 

[rfan2020]

I know we disagree on many training principles, but there's no way he's going to fry his CNS doing that, lol. You have guys attempting PR's on the most compound lifts in existence, every day of the week, and they're the best Olympic weightlifters in the world. CNS overtraining is almost entirely mythological BS for the average lifter. It's almost impossible for your average lifter to hit the CNS harder than competitive athletes. And those same competitive athletes aren't even thinking about "intensity", nevermind thinking it's actually intense to lift like a bodybuilder and target a single muscle group at a time.

I'm sorry but curling until your biceps are dead isn't even intense. You could literally destroy your biceps and connective tissue from overtraining, and your CNS wouldn't be impacted in any manner. I doubt anyone on this forum has ever been remotely close to overtraining the CNS.

I do not agree. these top level athletes have top genetics, and then don't work 40 hours per week. their life is their training, they get weekly massages, recovery protocols, they can eat amounts of food that make gym bro walk around 15 percent with muffin top and stay lean.

 

[rfan2020]

It’s accumulative. You say a lot of nonsense. Those guys are the top tier genetic elite. Don’t compare the average or below average to them. When you get to that level it’s really just recover or fail, and more fail than recover. Did you honestly think you were somewhere in your brain making any sort of half not retarded point? I’ve wrecked myself in about 7 weeks before and was on the verge of getting rhabdo. I was destroyed. I was only doing DC training. I don’t have great recovery, never have.

if this is true you have poor recovery yes, you are not some super human who just strains so much harder than anyone. and with all the DC worship, do you think he is the ideal physique that most strive to be?

anyone can lift heavy and eat their way up the scale. Maybe DC training works because he urges guys to eat copious amounts of food for years. he was one who praises Boston Lloyd who just massed and massed and now has a gut like his pimp palumbo

 

[Cdave.aol]

Here we go...

 

[Gbro]

Here we go...

Sorry I dragged you into it.

 

[rfan2020]

Here we go...

can I diet on 500 calories or 100 calories? does tren give Side effects to people already experiencing emotional distress?

 

[Cdave.aol]

can I diet on 500 calories or 100 calories? does tren give Side effects to people already experiencing emotional distress?

Why would you diet on 100 calories?

 

[Ironman580]

Bro split - shim split - just hit they gym man - split my ass with this shit already

 

[Ironman580]

Shmo split

 

[NLM36]

if this is true you have poor recovery yes, you are not some super human who just strains so much harder than anyone. and with all the DC worship, do you think he is the ideal physique that most strive to be?

anyone can lift heavy and eat their way up the scale. Maybe DC training works because he urges guys to eat copious amounts of food for years. he was one who praises Boston Lloyd who just massed and massed and now has a gut like his pimp palumbo

I never claimed to superhuman. I’ve said several times I believe I have subpar genetics. I think my recovery is shit. Now, I do train very hard. There’s a reason i haven’t had a training partner in years. I push the weight until it doesn’t move, with decent form. I’ll stand by the fact that I’ll get more out of 1 set than most people get out of 20. Don’t twist my words. I know what I look like, where I started and what I’ve obtained. I would bury you in the gym buddy.
i agree anyone can progressively eat and lift their way up to being big.
Dante never praised Boston. Boston is the opposite of what Dante has always preached, so stop that shit. Boston never trained hard, he preached all drugs. You just pull shit out of your ass, make nonsense blanket statements and create narratives and hypothetical situations in your head and run with them.
Congrats I responded to your troll ass again. Keep up the fake backstory and clear bullshit that you spout that you have no first hand knowledge with.

 

[rfan2020]

I never claimed to superhuman. I’ve said several times I believe I have subpar genetics. I think my recovery is shit. Now, I do train very hard. There’s a reason i haven’t had a training partner in years. I push the weight until it doesn’t move, with decent form. I’ll stand by the fact that I’ll get more out of 1 set than most people get out of 20. Don’t twist my words. I know what I look like, where I started and what I’ve obtained. I would bury you in the gym buddy.
i agree anyone can progressively eat and lift their way up to being big.
Dante never praised Boston. Boston is the opposite of what Dante has always preached, so stop that shit. Boston never trained hard, he preached all drugs. You just pull shit out of your ass, make nonsense blanket statements and create narratives and hypothetical situations in your head and run with them.
Congrats I responded to your troll ass again. Keep up the fake backstory and clear bullshit that you spout that you have no first hand knowledge with.

yawn, the extra at the end just shows your insecurity

now back to training, yes DC did start a post one time praising Boston at one point for just bulking up to 300lbs when I guess originally people made fun of him. it was something of the sorts 'this is how you do it, don't worry about being pretty, mass up like this guy"

my opinion, DC training works at putting on weight because he also advocates pushing the scale

now with that said,,I was bored and researched it and my opinion, with the RP at 20 breaths, the feeder sets, its not as low volume as I had thought and the frequency is decent. the DC rest pause set if someone is taking 20 breaths, thats almost like 3 sets, so 6 hard intense sets over 8 days for say chest, now as low of volume as I had thought

I may give it a try (I did once years ago when natural). the warmup sets themselves id say add a little volume since he advocates more warmups than most high volume guys I assume do

For me it may be a good change

what I don't like about it, rear and side delts are not hit. only presses for shoulders. at the same time, if someone is going to run it, run it as is and don't add to it

you have did DC consistent for years and never did rear or side delt work? that is the one thing I don't like about it

 

[Kurosawa]

I’m going to chime in on some advice

Stop using the scale. That’s one reason you’re getting fat. Use strength, recovery and body composition as your gauge. Stop chasing numbers. You really don’t know what you’re doing. Your log isn’t relevant.
I don’t even know what to say about your diet. List it all out. Weight and amounts. You don’t know what your calories or protein is. It’s called consistency

I’m not saying listen to NLM36 or anyone else’s advice, You do what you want no one is controlling your actions. I was struggling with maintaining calorie intake during my blast a few months back and he recommended this for me and it worked(drinking all those egg whites had me running to the bathroom 5x a day lol) it spiked my metabolism within 3 weeks. People we’re asking me wtf was i eating or if i was lying about my drug doses even though i didn’t notice any growth when looking in the mirror bc i tend to be hard on myself. It’s not the very best recommendation but it worked for me.

 

[Cdave.aol]

yawn, the extra at the end just shows your insecurity

now back to training, yes DC did start a post one time praising Boston at one point for just bulking up to 300lbs when I guess originally people made fun of him. it was something of the sorts 'this is how you do it, don't worry about being pretty, mass up like this guy"

my opinion, DC training works at putting on weight because he also advocates pushing the scale

now with that said,,I was bored and researched it and my opinion, with the RP at 20 breaths, the feeder sets, its not as low volume as I had thought and the frequency is decent. the DC rest pause set if someone is taking 20 breaths, thats almost like 3 sets, so 6 hard intense sets over 8 days for say chest, now as low of volume as I had thought

I may give it a try (I did once years ago when natural). the warmup sets themselves id say add a little volume since he advocates more warmups than most high volume guys I assume do

For me it may be a good change

what I don't like about it, rear and side delts are not hit. only presses for shoulders. at the same time, if someone is going to run it, run it as is and don't add to it

you have did DC consistent for years and never did rear or side delt work? that is the one thing I don't like about it

 

[Test_Subject]

my opinion, DC training works at putting on weight because he also advocates pushing the scale

Well, yeah. You don’t put on weight by not getting heavier.

 

[Live_Evil]

It’s accumulative. You say a lot of nonsense. Those guys are the top tier genetic elite. Don’t compare the average or below average to them. When you get to that level it’s really just recover or fail, and more fail than recover. Did you honestly think you were somewhere in your brain making any sort of half not retarded point? I’ve wrecked myself in about 7 weeks before and was on the verge of getting rhabdo. I was destroyed. I was only doing DC training. I don’t have great recovery, never have.

You have never once fried your CNS, and that's for damn sure.

"Top tier genetics." -- Plenty of guys with shit genetics make it to the top of a given sport, like MMA. Guys who end up pudgy, slow, and unathletic. And they're still training 6-8 hours a day. Look at Ben Askren. Further, who says those "top tier genetics" impact their CNS in anyway?

I'd bet money you couldn't "fry" your CNS if you set out with that sole intent and gave it everything you had. Your connective tissue will fail long before your CNS. Feeling tired and not being able to hit the gym again after training ridiculously hard is something everyone has experienced, but it has literally nothing to do with the CNS.

There are guys running 150 miles without a break, and you honestly think you've overworked the CNS from an hour long lifting session? Lol.

But I do love how you're always emotionally attached to your opinion, and shit on anything that contradicts it, even hard science. Keep defending those anecdotes.