I’m using another labs yohimbine/nootropic formula, and have used helios, clen yohimbine dmaa extensively in the past. I will say that telling a first timer to try two tabs, especially from a lab known for its product quality is a little wreck less. I’m a long time vet in the game of steroid use and one tab of yohimbine gives me insomnia. You don’t react the same as I do and how do you know this member will react the same? @MouthfulOfClouds try a half a tab in the morning to start and gauge your tolerance. I’m an insomniac this week on this stuff. @Munky I’m not beating you up but think a bit before you hand out advice, I’m sure you wouldn’t feel too great if this guy had a jammer from taking 4 helios tabs.