Why do you feel the need to run test 150 and npp 100?
Why not go 150 npp and 100 test.
I'm 100 test p
100 npp
100 tren a
Eod
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
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Why do you feel the need to run test 150 and npp 100?
Why not go 150 npp and 100 test.
I'm 100 test p
100 npp
100 tren a
Eod
Always thoght you were supposed to run test higher than npp to avoid libido issues
Deca dick won't be fixed by higher test than Deca.
And there are conflicting views on this one.
Some say sides are less with a lower test actually.
I have to agree... first time I don't run my test higher than tren/deca... and I'm feeling awesome.
That could be done no problem
That’s steep but I’ve seen way worse
Either way you will likely be fine..don’t over think it
Hey guys just wanted to post here as well so I could possibly get some quicker insight on what's not right.
First Cycle (Test E + LGD + MK 677) 4 Weeks in Lethargic and TIRED!
So running my first ever actual gear cycle, I have started it off at 300 mgs a week of Test E. The plan is to go to 400 or 500 at Week 6 if need be until the end of Week 12.
LGD is 5 mgs split 2x daily. And MK is 25 mgs split 2x daily.
As of right now I feel only a little bit more fullness and pumps but nothing else, no ridiculous size gains, no ridiculous strength and nothing else (if anything I started taking LGD around Week 2 and that bumped strength and roundness up a little bit, prior to that nothing really with the Test in Weeks 1,2 and 3.)
I am however feeling quite tired and lethargic the past week or so. I seem to wake up in between my sleep now and then, and yesterday my mother commented on how my face looked really red (we video called and she saw me after about a week or two?).
Training has been a little tough as well since I feel so tired and gassed in general, I don't feel anything like what a Superman version of myself should be on Test. Also my cardio is pretty freaking trash but that could be because I hate it and try to avoid it a lot (been doing it every training session since a week or two before cycle though.)
Diet is 70% clean and the rest I indulge in things like cereal or cookies basically cheat carbs, here and there I might go out for a burger once a week or so.
Now my first thoughts on further reading up are that maybe my Haemoglobin and/or Haematocrit levels are a bit high. I could either straight away go for a blood donation tomorrow/day after because I haven't donated in like freaking YEARS now. I used to a lot and quite frequently just somehow haven't in the past few years. I have also been on 5-6 LGD cycles in the past 2 years and never donated blood in between (though always took bloods), I am unsure if LGD might also have ended up building these two up in the past year or so and I never checked on it.
1) Any idea on what I could be facing?
2) Should I donate blood immediately to get that out of the way? Or should I get my bloods done first before donating?
My doc has already written me out a blood test form I was saving it for Week 6 or mid cycle to figure out how I am doing and if I should be changing anything mid cycle at that point. Also the blood test requisition form does NOT have Estradiol mentioned on it, should I get that checked as well?
In response to someone mentioning to drop the SARMs and just go for the Test :-
Thing is I have used the same source of the same SARMs the 5-6 times before that I have mentioned above with great results.
Plus they are making the body react as expected viz. Insane hunger + bloat because of MK, and some strength increase and good pumps with LGD.
I have at one point my life previously felt extremely lethargic and tired similarly, but that was my very first LGD + MK cycle exact same dosages, but that was at the end of Week 6 or so and that too it was because, I assume, I had no test in me since the Sarms suppressed me at that point.
I think I might drop the LGD soon now though considering the Test should start kicking in real soon.
I don't want to stop EVERYTHING (drop LGD + MK + donate blood) because that way I don't know what's causing the issue at this point.
First Cycle (Test E + LGD + MK 677) 4 Weeks in Lethargic and TIRED!
So running my first ever actual gear cycle, I have started it off at 300 mgs a week of Test E. The plan is to go to 400 or 500 at Week 6 if need be until the end of Week 12.
LGD is 5 mgs split 2x daily. And MK is 25 mgs split 2x daily.
As of right now I feel only a little bit more fullness and pumps but nothing else, no ridiculous size gains, no ridiculous strength and nothing else (if anything I started taking LGD around Week 2 and that bumped strength and roundness up a little bit, prior to that nothing really with the Test in Weeks 1,2 and 3.)
I am however feeling quite tired and lethargic the past week or so. I seem to wake up in between my sleep now and then, and yesterday my mother commented on how my face looked really red (we video called and she saw me after about a week or two?).
Training has been a little tough as well since I feel so tired and gassed in general, I don't feel anything like what a Superman version of myself should be on Test. Also my cardio is pretty freaking trash but that could be because I hate it and try to avoid it a lot (been doing it every training session since a week or two before cycle though.)
Diet is 70% clean and the rest I indulge in things like cereal or cookies basically cheat carbs, here and there I might go out for a burger once a week or so.
Now my first thoughts on further reading up are that maybe my Haemoglobin and/or Haematocrit levels are a bit high. I could either straight away go for a blood donation tomorrow/day after because I haven't donated in like freaking YEARS now. I used to a lot and quite frequently just somehow haven't in the past few years. I have also been on 5-6 LGD cycles in the past 2 years and never donated blood in between (though always took bloods), I am unsure if LGD might also have ended up building these two up in the past year or so and I never checked on it.
1) Any idea on what I could be facing?
2) Should I donate blood immediately to get that out of the way? Or should I get my bloods done first before donating?
My doc has already written me out a blood test form I was saving it for Week 6 or mid cycle to figure out how I am doing and if I should be changing anything mid cycle at that point. Also the blood test requisition form does NOT have Estradiol mentioned on it, should I get that checked as well?
In response to someone mentioning to drop the SARMs and just go for the Test :-
Thing is I have used the same source of the same SARMs the 5-6 times before that I have mentioned above with great results.
Plus they are making the body react as expected viz. Insane hunger + bloat because of MK, and some strength increase and good pumps with LGD.
I have at one point my life previously felt extremely lethargic and tired similarly, but that was my very first LGD + MK cycle exact same dosages, but that was at the end of Week 6 or so and that too it was because, I assume, I had no test in me since the Sarms suppressed me at that point.
I think I might drop the LGD soon now though considering the Test should start kicking in real soon.
I don't want to stop EVERYTHING (drop LGD + MK + donate blood) because that way I don't know what's causing the issue at this point.
CanuckBR
Member
Gentlemen, does anyone had any issue during a cycle a very annoying numbness in the hand(right hand in my case)? It started about one or two weeks ago, I'm on week 12 of a 12 weeks run, this last week I'm running 100mg Winny, 100mg clen, 100mg t3 Ed and 500mg test cyp/week
Anyone felt something like that?
Anyone felt something like that?
I get numbing of hands and arms from steroids. Not sure why if it’s added pressure on nerves or whatever but yes I’ve had this happen
Vita
Member
Even though you're cutting, have you put any mass onto your Delts?
CanuckBR
Member
Yup, thinking about any compression in the nerve or vein under the delts?
I thought about that but the right hand is really bad and the left is fine, odd
Vita
Member
Not really odd, but just a thought. Out of everything you are taking if it was me I would drop the Clen. Though I belive Clen is evil.
WCL
Well-known Member
CanuckBR
Member
I hate clen as well, but clen with t3 is fine, no sides for me, only clen makes me depressed badly
I wanted to try drop more 1 or 2% bf this week, didn't want to drop the clen, but I'll go by steps, drop Winny today, physiotherapist tomorrow to see the nerves, if doesn't get better by Tuesday I'll drop the clen and t3, at least it's my last week I didn't need to cut the cycle in the meddle
Thanks @WCL
Just another thing I wanted to mention in case someone else reads the post. I have NOT used any AI / Serm yet.
I have literally everything I could need on hand, Letro, Arimidex, Anaztrazole, Aromasin, Nolva and Clomid. I have refrained from using them for now just because of reading around there shouldn't be a need to use it unless you feel sides or even Gyno and then you start dosing and go from there.
Just something to mention, for this week I will hop off the MK and see how things feel in the coming week. I feel I should also donate blood just in case, it would suck that I would get two things out of the way together though, MK + Blood donation so if I get better it would still be confusing which of the two is causing the issue.
Just another thing I wanted to mention in case someone else reads the post. I have NOT used any AI / Serm yet.
I have literally everything I could need on hand, Letro, Arimidex, Anaztrazole, Aromasin, Nolva and Clomid. I have refrained from using them for now just because of reading around there shouldn't be a need to use it unless you feel sides or even Gyno and then you start dosing and go from there.
Just something to mention, for this week I will hop off the MK and see how things feel in the coming week. I feel I should also donate blood just in case, it would suck that I would get two things out of the way together though, MK + Blood donation so if I get better it would still be confusing which of the two is causing the issue.
The test is only really kicking in by now, so you'll experience very little in the first three weeks anyway. mk677 can cause lethargy and definitely will wake you up while you sleep. 3ml warned me and I thought I'd be the exception, but NOPE. Now I can't sleep for more than a few hrs at a time while on mk677. Drop it immediately. The water retention could be causing you to feel weird too. Unlikely your hematocrit is so high that you need to give blood after being on slow estered test for 4 weeks. To be honest, it sounds like you have no idea about steroids and didn't do much research. Go look at ester timing and half lives. Go look at LGD vs even the most mild steroid such as tbol. Go look at what mk677 sides you should be experiencing.
" Also my cardio is pretty freaking trash but that could be because I hate it and try to avoid it a lot."
hmmmm......
