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Hey guys I'd like to hear some feedback:

I've been dealing with aches and pains in my elbows, knees, and lower back. I have experience using NPP and when I was on, I felt amazing.

It's been over a year since my NPP cycle but now I'm contemplating running low dose Deca long term solely for the purpose of mitigating joint pain.

Thoughts?
 
Hey guys I'd like to hear some feedback:

I've been dealing with aches and pains in my elbows, knees, and lower back. I have experience using NPP and when I was on, I felt amazing.

It's been over a year since my NPP cycle but now I'm contemplating running low dose Deca long term solely for the purpose of mitigating joint pain.

Thoughts?
I've ran deca at 75 for the same reason works well
 
Agree... gh even at 2iu's/day is amazing
I was asking not because it's amazing but his muscle aches and joint pain could be due to gh. Not sure if you saw but I put it out there for meso Bros to comment on why my wrists were hurting on 3iu of the providers blacktops and was advised to lower dose and see. Went down to 1iu and muscle aches especially in the legs and CTS went away. Still left wrist I feel a twinge but lot less than before. This gh no joke.
 
I was asking not because it's amazing but his muscle aches and joint pain could be due to gh. Not sure if you saw but I put it out there for meso Bros to comment on why my wrists were hurting on 3iu of the providers blacktops and was advised to lower dose and see. Went down to 1iu and muscle aches especially in the legs and CTS went away. Still left wrist I feel a twinge but lot less than before. This gh no joke.

Now that you mention it, my knees have been in pain (when crouching) ever since i began MK-677.

Not sure if it's related or just a coincidence, but it does make me wonder.
 
I believe it's each persons response to the gh and dose etc. Or going too high too fast. It's a long term thing anyway so why not go slow and see how body responds. Joint pain and muscle aches is a sign of too much gh than body can handle. Thats my hypothesis
 
Now that you mention it, my knees have been in pain (when crouching) ever since i began MK-677.

Not sure if it's related or just a coincidence, but it does make me wonder.

MK677 does wonders
My bro ran it for a while.
His biggest issue was the joint pain, he couldnt control the secretions or water retention.
He switched to 2ius and felt much better, apparently the lethargy was killing him too.

No. Only thing I'm on is my doctor prescribed TRT. no AIs. Estrogen and Test are in the normal range.

Run that Deca low dose.
I've never felt better than with the Deca.
It's not a great drug for me because I still PCT.
Maybe run some low dose Proviron with it?
Proviron is cheap as hell and does wonder for Estrogen and Deca dick.

The way I see it for your situation, low dose deca will MAYBE cause you to need a low dose AI, maybe... because your dosage is already dialed in properly (Kudos, I dint see many guys doing this effectivly)
The Proviron will probably offset the sides from the deca?
I've been meaning to run low dose Deca with Proviron for some time... it's on my cycle to do list lol
 
I was asking not because it's amazing but his muscle aches and joint pain could be due to gh. Not sure if you saw but I put it out there for meso Bros to comment on why my wrists were hurting on 3iu of the providers blacktops and was advised to lower dose and see. Went down to 1iu and muscle aches especially in the legs and CTS went away. Still left wrist I feel a twinge but lot less than before. This gh no joke.

Weird... I feel the opposite on 2iu's.
But I agree going to 4-6iu/day for me everything gets stiff.

But I feel tons better on a low dose of 2iu's.
 
Weird... I feel the opposite on 2iu's.
But I agree going to 4-6iu/day for me everything gets stiff.

But I feel tons better on a low dose of 2iu's.


2 units of pharma is one thing. It was using a generic I would be worried that dosing may be slightly less or inconsistent. I feel like if o was doing something like 2 units a day of a generic I’d add a tab of mk a day or shot of peptides to get a little more GH produced by my body and not just shutting down negative feedback loop and basically replacing GH my body could have produced
 
What you saying 3ml that TP's Meditrope kits aren't pharma. Lol. I don't know much about quality control when it comes to gh but 99% purity with no dimer is pharma grade to me without the label and patent.
 
What you saying 3ml that TP's Meditrope kits aren't pharma. Lol. I don't know much about quality control when it comes to gh but 99% purity with no dimer is pharma grade to me without the label and patent.

I get what you are saying but it’s still not like it’s government approved
I trust TP stuff for sure but at the end of the day it is what it is and it’s a generic. It may very well be created in a pharma setup I don’t know so for myself anything generic I won’t bother with anything under 4 units a day.
 
Hi Fellas I have a question about injection sites since I recently mentioned that I developed a few small hematomas although the one in my lat is disappating the 1 in my right deltoid has decreased but still there and it's been a year. Doing daily shots takes a toll I guess and I've used the advice some of you provided in terms of injecting slow and different methods of warming the oil (syringe with needle tip down in a tall glass filled with hot water while I shower) is pretty good I forgot who mentioned that. But I wanted to ask who here prefers quads as a site and do you inject standing or sitting and where exactly. Years ago I did it and my leg was sore for days and never again but I need some diff sites too offset the chance of another hematoma. I'm seeing a plastic surgeon soon and he may have to drain the mini lump in my delt. Would trigger point massage rolling be a good idea?
 
Hi Fellas I have a question about injection sites since I recently mentioned that I developed a few small hematomas although the one in my lat is disappating the 1 in my right deltoid has decreased but still there and it's been a year. Doing daily shots takes a toll I guess and I've used the advice some of you provided in terms of injecting slow and different methods of warming the oil (syringe with needle tip down in a tall glass filled with hot water while I shower) is pretty good I forgot who mentioned that. But I wanted to ask who here prefers quads as a site and do you inject standing or sitting and where exactly. Years ago I did it and my leg was sore for days and never again but I need some diff sites too offset the chance of another hematoma. I'm seeing a plastic surgeon soon and he may have to drain the mini lump in my delt. Would trigger point massage rolling be a good idea?
Don’t think I could do ED injections... I sit down with knee bent to do quad injections. Put the palm of your hand on your hip point your finger down like a gun. Basically anywhere the end of that finger is a good spot. Sit, draw imaginary line down center of your leg, do the same on the outside, half your quad from knee to hip, anywhere in there is generally good to go.

Keep in mind you do have nerves, veins, blood vessels in there. I pinned quads exclusively for a year. Yes I had issues at times. I did a few months ago started pinning delts for other places
 
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