use my fucking head? Coming from you? Come on man really? Ive been over 260 pretty damn lean on 2 grams of total gear and I could have pushed food even higher but shit happened in my personal life I had to deal with and I put bodybuilding on the back burner. But if I wanted to get bigger I just added more food. There is a study out there saying 2.5 grams is about as much as a person can go and anything past that added almost nothing as far as muscle growth. Insulin is also a big factor in getting really massive, gh, insulin, igf-1, 2.5 grams of gear per week. That is what most pros use.